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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by verslagen1 on 06/26/19 at 07:50:27 It's in the cafe. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/19 at 07:58:03 Yeaaah, just stumbled upon it. I put the link in. No reason to erase it here though, right? |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by Serowbot on 06/26/19 at 09:57:47 In here we can discuss the politics of it. Which would be,... Illegal immigrants,... Build that Wall!...!... Except there are points to both sides. The question I pose from the Left is,.. How does a wall stop a Ukrainian that came in by airliner?.... As in, how does a wall stop the 19 hijackers that took down the Twin Towers?... We need a balanced approach to immigration, not a bumper sticker campaign slogan. Not a wall. Solutions not slogans. (there's a bumper sticker for ya'). Condolences to the families and friends of the lost. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by verslagen1 on 06/26/19 at 10:30:28 Is deflection the lefts game? They talked about revoking his commercial license, his driving license, and deporting him for criminal offenses. Perhaps if there was a wall between lanes... |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by Serowbot on 06/26/19 at 11:12:12 Is that a deflection?... |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by verslagen1 on 06/26/19 at 12:15:19 2036213C24313C27530 wrote:
That's an obstruction... you got something against congress? |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by Serowbot on 06/26/19 at 14:01:08 43504746595452505B04350 wrote:
Yes... How about do your job? How about don't use children as pawns? How about be the independent branch of government you're supposed to be, instead of Trump's lapdog?. How about impeach this guy?. Is there any rule of conduct or decorum that Trump hasn't broken nearly daily?. Are there any standards you can hold the next President to without extreme hypocrisy?... Republicans have no ground left to stand on. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/26/19 at 14:35:51 3C2A3D20382D203B4F0 wrote:
Yes... How about do your job? How about don't use children as pawns? How about be the independent branch of government you're supposed to be, instead of Trump's lapdog?. How about impeach this guy?. Is there any rule of conduct or decorum that Trump hasn't broken nearly daily?. Are there any standards you can hold the next President to without extreme hypocrisy?... Republicans have no ground left to stand on.[/quote] Great/key point Sero: Are there any standards you can hold the next President to without extreme hypocrisy?... No, there's not. Look at what they've done to the presidency. Sad. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by thumperclone on 06/26/19 at 15:26:10 look what they have done to us maga it was already great the greatest in the world now they want to tear us apart and line the pockets of their rich cronies who is paying for the stupid tariffs? you and me where's all the new jobs? where's my tax break? where's my living wage? |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/19 at 09:13:18 https://hotair.com/archives/2019/06/27/ice-now-detainer-guy-ran-motorcyclists/ Too bad they didn't do it a lot sooner.. Lack of enforcement got people killed. Every day,, |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/27/19 at 10:44:21 6A757374696E5F6F5F67757932000 wrote:
Tragic. Law enforcement failed at several turns. It's not ICE - it's the local police that should have done a better job at locking this guy up and shipping him back. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by MnSpring on 06/27/19 at 11:28:07 766867666B766D70020 wrote:
Tell us all, how the, 'local' police, are suppose to be, '...shipping him back...', when YOU, are in favor of the the Socialist Views of, Sanctuary Cities ? What is that, "H" word LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/27/19 at 12:00:14 183B0625273C3B32550 wrote:
Tell us all, how the, 'local' police, are suppose to be, '...shipping him back...', when YOU, are in favor the the Socialist Views of, Sanctuary Cities ? Well mn, had local law enforcement done its job properly (with any thoroughness), they would have seen that he was on a temporary visa (but then again, maybe they already knew). This should have been enough for them to contact immigration. But, as we can see, they dropped the ball and 7 fellow bikers are dead. What is that, "H" word LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL It's obvious you think that sanctuary cities are somehow protecting felons. Sorry mn, but that's not the case. Sanctuary cities have more to do with illegals and protecting them. This guy was here on a legal visa. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by verslagen1 on 06/27/19 at 14:04:23 You don't think that may be the unintended consequences of laws that are vaguely written? The police are simply told "not to inquire about the immigration status" of anyone, legal or not. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by Serowbot on 06/27/19 at 14:50:46 JoG,.. you deleted your OP?... |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by hotrod on 06/27/19 at 14:52:22 Can the Big Z vote ? Maybe he and Biden can cure cancer together. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/27/19 at 15:22:35 786B7C7D626F696B603F0E0 wrote:
True, because that is akin to "asking for your papers"... Gray area... |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/27/19 at 15:23:17 0E272B2B233477460 wrote:
Naw - trump already claimed that he could so.... :D |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by MnSpring on 06/27/19 at 16:29:18 4F515E5F524F54493B0 wrote:
Really, so next time Bot, (or I when in AZ, and going from Ajo to Buckeye) can tell the Border Patrol: (when they stop, EVERYBODY on the hwy) "F...OFF, it's None of your Business!" (when they ask: "are you a US Citizen") Give it a rest. You know full well, the 'Sanctuary' cities, do NOT allow any local police to communicate with any 'deporting' agent. Regardless of any crime/s committed. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/27/19 at 18:20:30 5F7C4162607B7C75120 wrote:
Really, so next time Bot, (or I when in AZ, and going from Ajo to Buckeye) can tell the Border Patrol: (when they stop, EVERYBODY on the hwy) Are you telling me that they stop everyone on 85? Everyone? "F...OFF, it's None of your Business!" (when they ask: "are you a US Citizen") Give it a rest. You know full well, the 'Sanctuary' cities, do NOT allow any local police to communicate with any 'deporting' agent. Regardless of any crime/s committed. No. That's not the case. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by verslagen1 on 06/28/19 at 07:06:19 786669686578637E0C0 wrote:
Really, so next time Bot, (or I when in AZ, and going from Ajo to Buckeye) can tell the Border Patrol: (when they stop, EVERYBODY on the hwy) Are you telling me that they stop everyone on 85? Everyone? [/quote] [/quote] They stop me every year I've going east thru texas on the I40, ask if I'm Cit and a drug dog checks the truck. Give'm a big cheezy grin at the camera station too. ;D |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by MnSpring on 06/28/19 at 07:31:10 5E404F4E435E45582A0 wrote:
First, ask Bot, I am sure he has gone through some. Next, see if you can get his map link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ajo,+AZ+85321/@32.7147237,-112.8419273,183m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80d5588bb2b55107:0x6b724de12859f37b!8m2!3d32.3717248!4d-112.8607099 And can you see this ? https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7012152,-112.8484145,3a,15y,29.66h,85.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFIoLaiMZOZYXzmEJ4SEYwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Look closely at this one, you will see the tracks in the desert ! And for your, SPIN, It is EVERYBODY going North. The US Boarder Patrol does Not check people/trucks/MC's/cars, going South, into Mexico. No. That's not the case. Really ? You believe that, Gotta find more Ocean front lots in Iowa for you then. "...Sanctuary cities are local governments that refuse to help the federal government enforce ... immigration law,..." "...The term usually refers to a city or county that protects undocumented immigrants by limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities...." "...law enforcement personnel in some cities have unofficial practices that help protect immigrants from deportation...." "... the Center for Immigration Studies estimates that there are about 300 cities, counties, and states with policies that hinder federal immigration enforcement...." "...includes many big cities such as New York, Boston, and New Orleans. It also includes states such as California, New Mexico, Colorado and Minnesota..." "...Sanctuary policies and laws restrict when and how local law enforcement can engage with the federal government in immigration enforcement..." And that is a drop in a thimble ! But go ahead, say: "F...OFF, it's None of your Business!" (when they ask: "are you a US Citizen") But you really don't care. All you want is More, NON CITIZENS, to vote for a Socialistic Nation. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/28/19 at 07:36:54 6645785B5942454C2B0 wrote:
First, ask Bot, I am sure he has gone through some. Next, see if you can get his map link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ajo,+AZ+85321/@32.7147237,-112.8419273,183m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80d5588bb2b55107:0x6b724de12859f37b!8m2!3d32.3717248!4d-112.8607099 And can you see this ? https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7012152,-112.8484145,3a,15y,29.66h,85.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFIoLaiMZOZYXzmEJ4SEYwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Look closely at this one, you will see the tracks in the desert ! And for your, SPIN, It is EVERYBODY going North. The US Boarder Patrol does Not check people/trucks/MC's/cars, going South, into Mexico. So, not everyone then. Thanks. No. That's not the case. Really ? You believe that, Gotta find more Ocean front lots in Iowa for you then. "...Sanctuary cities are local governments that refuse to help the federal government enforce ... immigration law,..." "...The term usually refers to a city or county that protects undocumented immigrants by limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities...." "...law enforcement personnel in some cities have unofficial practices that help protect immigrants from deportation...." "... the Center for Immigration Studies estimates that there are about 300 cities, counties, and states with policies that hinder federal immigration enforcement...." "...includes many big cities such as New York, Boston, and New Orleans. It also includes states such as California, New Mexico, Colorado and Minnesota..." "...Sanctuary policies and laws restrict when and how local law enforcement can engage with the federal government in immigration enforcement..." And that is a drop in a thimble ! FIFY But go ahead, say: "F...OFF, it's None of your Business!" (when they ask: "are you a US Citizen") But you really don't care. All you want is More, NON CITIZENS, to vote for a Socialistic Nation. Yep mn - and that's exactly what's happening.... LOL . And if it drives you crazy, well that's just icing on the cake! ;D [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by MnSpring on 06/28/19 at 09:22:21 4D535C5D504D564B390 wrote:
Na it don't drive me crazy. Just cements YOUR position as one of the very far left. Perhaps in the 1 - 5 % of far left. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/28/19 at 09:29:10 4764597A7863646D0A0 wrote:
Na it don't drive me crazy. Just cements YOUR position as one of the very far left. Perhaps in the 1 - 5 % of far left. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-*[/quote] Fine by me. I'd much rather be progressive than not. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by MnSpring on 06/28/19 at 09:42:13 544A454449544F52200 wrote:
OK, great. First it was somewhere Left, then 10 % left, Now, "...Fine by me..." you are 5 (or less) % Left. Gee, what have you called the people 5% to the Right ? But it is just fine you are 5% to the Left. Tell me again, about that, 'H' word. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/28/19 at 10:06:44 55764B686A71767F180 wrote:
OK, great. First it was somewhere Left, then 10 % left, Now, "...Fine by me..." you are 5 (or less) % Left. Gee, what have you called the people 5% to the Right ? But it is just fine you are 5% to the Left. Tell me again, about that, 'H' word. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* [/quote] Not sure what you're trying to prove mn. You can label me any way you'd like. Fine by me. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by MnSpring on 06/28/19 at 10:21:21 415F50515C415A47350 wrote:
Asked a question. What did you, 'label' the people that are 5% to the Right ? Now that you have admited, (and are proud of), the fact you are in the 5% to the Left. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/28/19 at 10:52:02 193A0724263D3A33540 wrote:
Asked a question. What did you, 'label' the people that are 5% to the Right ? Now that you have admited, (and are proud of), the fact you are in the 5% to the Left. [/quote] I don't remember (I'm sure you do) - it was probably something like "nuts" or "stupid" or "idiots" or "morons" or "a$$holes" or "racists" or "white supremacists" or "fukcwads"... Well, thank goodness I'm not one of them, huh? (are you?) :D |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by MnSpring on 06/28/19 at 11:39:21 2E303F3E332E35285A0 wrote:
Nope, I'm not. And Thank goodness I am not a, Ultra Liberal, Fairy dust Sprinkling, Chicken Little Snowflake, who was babysat by a puppet TV show and that is their only view of how the world works. Thank goodness I do not have a overwhelming desire to have everyone think exactaly what I think. Thank goodness I can think for myself, and not have to have AOC, BS, CU and the like Tell me what to say. Thank goodness I know how to work, and do NOT expect EVERYONE to Give To Me. Thank goodness I am not one of the 5% on the Left. :-* ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/28/19 at 11:49:31 587B4665677C7B72150 wrote:
Nope, I'm not. And Thank goodness I am not a, Ultra Liberal, Fairy dust Sprinkling, Chicken Little Snowflake, who was babysat by a puppet TV show and that is their only view of how the world works. Thank goodness I do not have a overwhelming desire to have everyone think exactaly what I think. Thank goodness I can think for myself, and not have to have AOC, BS, CU and the like Tell me what to say. Thank goodness I know how to work, and do NOT expect EVERYONE to Give To Me. Thank goodness I am not one of the 5% on the Left. :-* ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] OK mn - whatever. As far as this matter is concerned, I'm done on this thread. The OP was about the tragedy of 7 fellow bikers losing their lives. So take your smileys elsewhere. Better yet, go here and donate like I did: http://www.gofundme.com/f/jarheads-mc-victims-and-families-support?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fb_dn_cpgntopstickysmall_r&fbclid=IwAR1VDs_uAT2sxlbPcZ9iCLKQ1qpknbBDHtYTTfTXpIM2IEH5M-a444eW8dg |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by Eegore on 06/28/19 at 12:18:17 Better yet, go here and donate like I did: http://www.gofundme.com/f/jarheads-mc-victims-and-families-support?utm_source... But talk is easier, and free. |
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Title: Re: Seven dead Post by T And T Garage on 06/28/19 at 12:30:02 1737353D2037520 wrote:
Sadly, that's true Eegore. |
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