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Title: No tittle Post by Zook on 06/24/19 at 10:34:40 I have occasional found an old bike I would like to buy but it has no tittle. I have not been able to figure out how to get a new title. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/24/19 at 11:01:54 Go visit the office where you would transfer titles and ask them what it takes to generate a title for an abandoned bike. Seems like the V.I.N. run through the Is it stolen Check list should get you started. Different states have different rules. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by BrokeAss on 06/24/19 at 15:44:28 In Ohio, a bike with no title is a parts bike. Everyone suddenly becomes an expert on vehicle titles when selling one without a title, but fact is in Ohio the only path to a title is from another title in proper standing. You can't "apply" for one, get one using a bill-of-sale, or convince Vermont to print you one. How so many vehicles come to have no retrievable title is beyond me, but it speaks to the laziness and ignorance of the populace. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by Dave on 06/25/19 at 03:40:37 In KY it is impossible to get a title for something that doesn't already have a title. An original owner can apply for a lost title replacement - but nobody else can. You may be able to find online sources for agencies that can get you a title. They issue you a title from a state with lenient rules, then later on you may be able to transfer it into your state. I think it cost about $400 to get this done by an agency.....you can do it yourself but it will take you some time to figure out how to get it done. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by ohiomoto on 06/25/19 at 07:36:45 00302D2927033131420 wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can get a title for an "abandoned" vehicle in Ohio through the court system. The link below explains how it works and it looks to be intended for towing and repair facilities. I thought it could be used by landlords and property owners, but I'm not an expert. https://www.bmv.ohio.gov/titles-unclaimed.aspx EDIT: Here it is: https://www.bmv.ohio.gov/titles-court.aspx |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by stewmills on 06/25/19 at 07:44:50 If it wasn't already noted above, some states also allow for a bonded title, where the cost of the bond is based on the value of the bike. When you are dealing with bikes this cheap and add the cost of the bike on top of the title fee and then the bond, you are back to square one as far as money and you would be in the same spot financially if you just bought a bike with clean title that didn't need this extra work. I bought a bike with a title issue once (the bank screwed it up, not the seller) and although it was not a lost/missing title issue, never again will I buy a bike without clear title in hand. I think the consensus here is that unless you or a family member work for DMV and you have connections, no-title bikes are almost never worth the trouble if your goal is to get a title. If all you want is a parts bike, then cheap no-title bikes are ok. ...And think about it this way, if getting a title were viable the current owner would have already done it and they are usually selling because they have already realized it ain't happening. :-? |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by Fast 650 on 06/25/19 at 08:20:14 If someone is trying to sell a bike with no title and they tell you it is easy to get a new title, tell them that you will pay them an additional $100 if they procure a title for it. You will not find anyone willing to make that extra $100 because they know how hard it is to get a title or they would have already gotten it themselves. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by batman on 06/25/19 at 08:30:36 Or go online and buy just a frame with a title . If it's a bike you intend to keep, you shouldn't care what year it's titled as. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by BrokeAss on 06/25/19 at 18:36:54 494E4F494B495249260 wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can get a title for an "abandoned" vehicle in Ohio through the court system. The link below explains how it works and it looks to be intended for towing and repair facilities. I thought it could be used by landlords and property owners, but I'm not an expert. https://www.bmv.ohio.gov/titles-unclaimed.aspx EDIT: Here it is: https://www.bmv.ohio.gov/titles-court.aspx [/quote] You're referring to a mechanic's lien, and even that takes 6-months, an unpaid bill, and a mountain of paperwork. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by ohiomoto on 06/26/19 at 06:12:47 Actually, it's the second link. It's probably mostly used by landlords who have tenants that leave their junk behind. I know a guy who said his brother has used it before. Quote:
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by SpamyToo on 06/26/19 at 07:02:32 When you guys say no title, are you saying that the VIN is not in the system? CA is usually the biggest pain to get anything done, but its not impossible to get a new title. The VIN should be in the system and should say who the owner is. With a Bill of Sale and the correct signatures your on the road to get a new title. Ive bought a bunch of bikes with no titles. Its a pain here, but not impossible. If the VIN isnt in the system its a bit more work with inspections but if you have a CHP friend they can help you out. I feel bad for you guys. Thats a bummer. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by Ed L. on 06/26/19 at 07:30:22 Here in Florida it is nearly impossible to get a title for an abandoned bike. The only "easy" way is to find the previous owner and have him get a replacement title then have it signed over to the buyer. If it's not possible to locate the previous owner the bike is a parts bike. It is possible to have a title search done but once again even if you find out who the bike was titled to you still need to find him and get a title from him. The other fly in the ointment would be that if he wanted the bike back you could be out of all the money and time that you spent. I'm not even going into buying the bike from a third party who just wants to unload the bike without a title. That can get into dealing with stolen property. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by Dave on 06/26/19 at 12:18:21 4A697874604D7676190 wrote:
The folks at the DMW are not allowed to give you the name and address of who owns a vehicle - that is not public information. There is little chance of getting this done if you don't know somebody in the DMV or Police Department who will break the law and do you a favor. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by SoC on 06/26/19 at 21:21:29 Zook, I have a frame with a clean title from Pa. for sale. Frame is tweeked but title is straight. All you need is the head stock and title, my sawsall can make that a reality. |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by SpamyToo on 06/26/19 at 21:41:20 "The folks at the DMW are not allowed to give you the name and address of who owns a vehicle - that is not public information. There is little chance of getting this done if you don't know somebody in the DMV or Police Department who will break the law and do you a favor." I hear what your saying Dave, but Im not sure thats entirely correct. There are exceptions to that rule. From what I have experienced and from what the internet and CA DMV says this is more of the situation... "If you know the VIN number of the car, you can fill out a form to officially request information about the car's current owner. However, in accordance with the Drivers Privacy Protection Act, the DMV can only release the information if your inquiry concerns a theft or the transferal of records into your name." https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/dl/how_info_shared |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by Dave on 06/27/19 at 06:09:18 6043525E4A675C5C330 wrote:
My one experience involved a "part bike" that I purchased. The fellow I bought it from got sucker punched shortly after he bought the bike, and when his head hit the pavement he suffered brain damage and went into a coma for several months. His friends moved all his stuff and lost the title that had never been transferred....and he did not remember who he bought it from. When I went to the DMV in my county with the VIN she looked it up and said the owner lived in Louisville - but she could not give me the information. Luckily the County Clerk happened to be in the office and is an old family friend and I saw him write the information down on a slip of paper.....and as he handed it to me he repeated that "she" was not allowed to give me that information If he had not been in the office and seen what was going on - I doubt it would have turned out that way. It also turned out that there were 8 years of unpaid taxes on the bike......and thankfully the real owner of the bike was able to talk them into canceling the unpaid taxes as the man who bought it was now disabled.....otherwise there was nearly $600 in taxes due! |
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Title: Re: No tittle Post by Junker on 06/30/19 at 23:11:39 Vermont will issue a new title, even if your applying from out of State. A friend of mine living in SC did this two years ago with an old 200 Twinstar. The link below should help you out. Here's a quote from the site .. "If you purchase a vehicle that does not have a title, it can be a little tricky to get one. Fortunately, there is a legal loop-hole to eventually obtain one: - Vermont will issue you a registration and license plate regardless of if you live in VT or bought the vehicle in VT. So, this is sufficient to drive around legally in any state. - Once you have the VT registration, you can then transfer it into your state at an “auto tags” business, and apply for a title / registration in your state. - The reason this works is because VT only titles vehicles 15 years and newer. So, for an old motorcycle or old car, there would be no VT title at all… so your state will recognize this, and will issue you a new title for your state. It’s a big loop hole, but it works. - I’ve heard some states (such as NJ) can be a little finicky about transferring VT registrations into their state and applying for a title… but Pennsylvania obviously doesn’t care." http://www.chinonthetank.com/2014/04/get-a-title-with-a-vermont-registration/ |
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