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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Mister Bernie, a question. /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1560454341 Message started by raydawg on 06/13/19 at 12:32:21 |
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Title: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by raydawg on 06/13/19 at 12:32:21 Given your take on how big business unfairly capitalizes on folk, and is a detriment to a fair, equal, and just society...... I wonder how you feel, view, professional sport franchises? They often get extremely advantages funding not available to Joe Sixpack, often times even upsetting normal working folks lives, with imminent domain actions, that tear away their homes for these professional stadiums expansions..... Lots of these folk are forced to accept lower than reality market values, and can never climb back to that spot that once enjoyed economically, before they were moved.... Not only this Sir, but think about the cost of providing security, policing, traffic, etc, that drains local budgets on money that might be spent on schooling, heathcare, etc. And furthermore, this condoning, promoting, sanctioning, of professional sports often leads to confrontations, ill feelings, and can lead to civil unrest, as it pit folk against folk, often with anger, emotions erupting into chaos, that once again, drains our budgets to confront and control.... Often spilling over into personal lose to businesses, that just happen to be in the wrong place as well.....costing all of us more to buy/purchase/support, the local economy. And this one Sir, which I am not sure we can ever gauge the effects of (it), as it might not be revealed for years, or even decades, when it could possible surface in a persons life in a negative way, causing much damage, harm, and grief to many innocent people, we just don't know. And what I am referring to is bullying to young children by their peer group, because they can't afford to buy/wear these often expensive sport team apparel..... A deep and hurtful scar at such a young impressionable age might never heal properly. We just can't ascertain, sadly. Are huge profits worth the chance......???? Love to hear what you think senator. |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by T And T Garage on 06/13/19 at 12:44:12 ::) Yeah, somehow I don't think Bernie would ever come on this site.... Forward it to his campaign page or twitter feed. |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by MnSpring on 06/13/19 at 14:32:46 4F515E5F524F54493B0 wrote:
And if you do, do not expect a answer !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by T And T Garage on 06/13/19 at 15:38:12 5E7D4063617A7D74130 wrote:
And if you do, do not expect a answer !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] Yeah mn... that's funny. About as funny as your grammar (in that it's actually not funny, but kinda sad). |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by raydawg on 06/14/19 at 08:28:35 716F60616C716A77050 wrote:
I did :) |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by T And T Garage on 06/14/19 at 08:34:10 6E7D65787D6B7B1C0 wrote:
I did :) [/quote] Good! If you get a response, feel free to share it here. |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by MnSpring on 06/14/19 at 09:32:55 70637B66637565020 wrote:
Great. However, don't hold your breath for a answer ! |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by raydawg on 06/16/19 at 08:04:47 Nothing yet....bummer, and no one here will touch it either, why? |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by T And T Garage on 06/16/19 at 17:00:05 5D4E564B4E58482F0 wrote:
Keep it real ray - if you have any clue of what Bernie's platform is, you know what his position would be on your post. There's nothing wrong with capitalism. The hyperbole in your post is way beyond reason. It's kind of silly to blame professional sports for "confrontations". The market will support paying those athletes anything they want. Once the crowds go away, then the sport goes. Let the owners make their cash. |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by MnSpring on 06/17/19 at 17:45:34 597A4764667D7A73140 wrote:
Can you explain, WITHOUT SPIN. Why the DSA, (of which you are a proud member) have these planks in their platform ? In the short term we can’t eliminate private corporations, but we can bring them under greater democratic control. As we are unlikely to see an immediate end to capitalism tomorrow, DSA fights for reforms today that will weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of working people. We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. we do not want big corporate bureaucracies to control our society Resources are used to make money for capitalists rather than to meet human needs. large concentrations of capital in industries such as energy and steel may necessitate some form of state ownership No single-issue organization can truly challenge the capitalist system or adequately secure its particular demands. And it just goes on and on, and on, and on, about, 'Socialism'. (Put a frog in a pan of cold water, than, s l o w y raise the heat) Yet no doubt, you will 'spin'. Being a self admited, DSA, (and proud of it) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by T And T Garage on 06/17/19 at 19:17:41 6744795A5843444D2A0 wrote:
Can you explain, WITHOUT SPIN. Why the DSA, (of which you are a proud member) have these planks in their platform ? In the short term we can’t eliminate private corporations, but we can bring them under greater democratic control. As we are unlikely to see an immediate end to capitalism tomorrow, DSA fights for reforms today that will weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of working people. We are socialists because we reject an international economic order sustained by private profit, Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. we do not want big corporate bureaucracies to control our society Resources are used to make money for capitalists rather than to meet human needs. large concentrations of capital in industries such as energy and steel may necessitate some form of state ownership No single-issue organization can truly challenge the capitalist system or adequately secure its particular demands. And it just goes on and on, and on, and on, about, 'Socialism'. (Put a frog in a pan of cold water, than, s l o w y raise the heat) Yet no doubt, you will 'spin'. Being a self admited, DSA, (and proud of it) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* [/quote] [/quote] There's nothing to explain if you understand english. |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by MnSpring on 06/18/19 at 09:15:19 617F70717C617A67150 wrote:
Glad you agree that the, democratic Socialists, Like you, BS, AOC, (and a drop in a thimble more) Say that those statements ARE, anti, free enterprise, (Capitalism) So when you say, you, BS, AOC, are FOR, Capitalism, it would be a Lie. Or is DSA lying when the planks in it's platform, are, against free enterprise. Who, is Lying ? (Can you say, the, 'H" word !) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by T And T Garage on 06/18/19 at 09:26:52 7A596447455E5950370 wrote:
Glad you agree that the, democratic Socialists, Like you, BS, AOC, (and a drop in a thimble more) Say that those statements ARE, anti, free enterprise, (Capitalism) So when you say, you, BS, AOC, are FOR, Capitalism, it would be a Lie. Or is DSA lying when the planks in it's platform, are, against free enterprise. Who, is Lying ? (Can you say, the, 'H" word !) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* [/quote] No one is lying. Again mn - there's nothing in those statements that want to bring down capitalism - it's about reigning it in. But I guess you'd like to live in an oligarchy - well I don't. (oh, and keep using all those smileys -it makes you look much more credible!) |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by Serowbot on 06/18/19 at 09:49:36 Nothing wrong with capitalism,.. as long as it's regulated. Otherwise, the citizenry and workers become subjects at the mercy of fiefdoms. |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by T And T Garage on 06/18/19 at 10:03:09 3E283F223A2F22394D0 wrote:
Exactly! |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by MnSpring on 06/18/19 at 10:41:14 4A5C4B564E5B564D390 wrote:
Who would be the, 'regulator' ? Someone like Lenin perhaps ? Would it depend on, how much the, 'regulator' was paid by the, 'Capitalist', in left hand dollars ? Should a, 'capitalist', free market, business person, rely on his/her, knowledge, skill, intelligence, and a finger on the pulse of the 'buyers' to know what he/she is selling/making will be bought. Or should a, 'capitalist', be brought 'under control', and 'allowed' to make/sell, ONLY, what he is told to, by the government ? What kind of Country do you want ? If it is the latter, LOTS of places you can go to ! And: "Nothing wrong with capitalism', is NOT, what the DSA says. which tt, BS, AOC (and a drop in the thimble more) 'SAY', they believe in ! |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by MnSpring on 06/18/19 at 10:48:04 736D62636E736875070 wrote:
Thank you. So glad you like them ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Or could it be, they, 'Offend,' you ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by T And T Garage on 06/18/19 at 10:59:54 62417C5F5D4641482F0 wrote:
Thank you. So glad you like them ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Or could it be, they, 'Offend,' you ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* [/quote] Not at all. Honestly mn - keep using them! I love to see them on your posts. They really do make your posts look so much more credible. Not childish at all. I mean, hey, who wouldn't trust the opinion of a guy who has trouble with "their", "they're" and "there" posting what look like ransom notes covered in smiley faces, right? It's pretty much every conservatives' MO. |
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Title: Re: Mister Bernie, a question. Post by Serowbot on 06/18/19 at 12:21:19 6E4D7053514A4D44230 wrote:
Who would be the, 'regulator' ? Someone like Lenin perhaps ? Would it depend on, how much the, 'regulator' was paid by the, 'Capitalist', in left hand dollars ? [/quote] Who would?... You mean, Who does... Our elected Representatives. They do. |
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