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Message started by T And T Garage on 06/06/19 at 07:51:27

Title: D-Day
Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/19 at 07:51:27

Is not about trump.  It's not about the presidency.

Yet the chair of the rnc says this:

“We are celebrating the anniversary, 75 years of D-Day,” McDaniel said. “This is the time where we should be celebrating our president, the great achievements of America, and I don’t think the American people like the constant negativity.”

Wow.  Just... wow.

This is the f-ing chair of the rnc here.... seriously??

Has everyone on the right lost their minds???? (that's rhetorical - I think they have...)


http://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/d-day-celebrate-trump-ronna-mcdaniel-194821270.html

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/19 at 08:15:54

Our country will always be indebted to the Greatest Generation.

http://news.yahoo.com/normandy-landings-photos-from-d-day-and-the-battle-of-normandy-140215021.html


Title: Re: D-Day
Post by pg on 06/06/19 at 16:38:08


584649484558435E2C0 wrote:
Our country will always be indebted to the Greatest Generation.



Why do you feel they were the greatest generation?

Best regards,

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by T And T Garage on 06/06/19 at 17:34:33


485F59555A4A380 wrote:
[quote author=584649484558435E2C0 link=1559832687/0#1 date=1559834154]Our country will always be indebted to the Greatest Generation.



Why do you feel they were the greatest generation?

Best regards,[/quote]


You're joking, right?  You've never heard that term before??

If not, let me enlighten you:

The Greatest Generation are those who lived through the Great Depression, and then also served, or were affected by WWII.

Think about that for a moment.  As children, their families had to scrimp and save and mostly do without during the Depression.  Then after all that sacrifice, what are they rewarded with?  A war - not just any little skirmish, but a World War.

But it wasn't just about those that fought in the war, it was about everyone in the country and what they did collectively to support the war effort.  Collectively, the country came together as one to build a massive defense force.  They rationed everything - paper, rubber, metal, fuel, meat - everything.

People invested directly in the war effort in the form of war bonds.  Quite literally - everyone worked together.

Calling them the Greatest Generation doesn't really do them justice.

Today, sadly, no one knows or has experienced anything near to the sacrifices they made.  

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by pg on 06/06/19 at 18:16:01


7B656A6B667B607D0F0 wrote:
[quote author=485F59555A4A380 link=1559832687/0#2 date=1559864288][quote author=584649484558435E2C0 link=1559832687/0#1 date=1559834154]Our country will always be indebted to the Greatest Generation.



Why do you feel they were the greatest generation?

Best regards,[/quote]


You're joking, right?  You've never heard that term before??

If not, let me enlighten you:

The Greatest Generation are those who lived through the Great Depression, and then also served, or were affected by WWII.

Think about that for a moment.  As children, their families had to scrimp and save and mostly do without during the Depression.  Then after all that sacrifice, what are they rewarded with?  A war - not just any little skirmish, but a World War.

But it wasn't just about those that fought in the war, it was about everyone in the country and what they did collectively to support the war effort.  Collectively, the country came together as one to build a massive defense force.  They rationed everything - paper, rubber, metal, fuel, meat - everything.

People invested directly in the war effort in the form of war bonds.  Quite literally - everyone worked together.

Calling them the Greatest Generation doesn't really do them justice.

Today, sadly, no one knows or has experienced anything near to the sacrifices they made.  [/quote]


Did I say I never heard of the term - NO....  I inquired why YOU
believe they were the greatest generation.  That is pretty straight forward isn't it?  Frankly speaking I think they are a little over-rated.


Best regards,

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by Eegore on 06/07/19 at 05:16:16


"Frankly speaking I think they are a little over-rated."

 Why is that?  To me, there's some books and movies made referring to the term but they get no additional tax breaks, pay-grades, social security or VA benefits for veterans, actually they got less.  

 It's not like anyone that contributed to the War Effort in WWII got anything extra from it.

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by T And T Garage on 06/07/19 at 06:15:57


6176707C7363110 wrote:
Did I say I never heard of the term - NO....  I inquired why YOU
believe they were the greatest generation.  That is pretty straight forward isn't it?  Frankly speaking I think they are a little over-rated.


Best regards,


Wow pro golfer.... just... wow.

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by pg on 06/07/19 at 15:16:00


49696B637E690C0 wrote:
"Frankly speaking I think they are a little over-rated."

 Why is that?  To me, there's some books and movies made referring to the term but they get no additional tax breaks, pay-grades, social security or VA benefits for veterans, actually they got less.  

 It's not like anyone that contributed to the War Effort in WWII got anything extra from it.



This is not really a difficult question to answer.  I see two significant areas of which that generation failed miserably.  First, tens of thousands of men died in meaning wars and conflicts for the remainder of the 20th century. After WWII, none of those wars were not necessary.  Second, economically they failed once again.  In 1955 the US was the supreme economic power of the world.  We produced 80% of he cars, had the lion share of the gold reserves, we were a creditor nation, we had the technology, the resources, we even had the world reserve currency.  20 years later the US began the de-industrialization process and they profited by our industries going oversees.  So you may say they are the greatest generation, I don’t believe so.

Best regards,

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by raydawg on 06/07/19 at 16:51:29


7067616D6272000 wrote:
[quote author=49696B637E690C0 link=1559832687/0#5 date=1559909776]
"Frankly speaking I think they are a little over-rated."

 Why is that?  To me, there's some books and movies made referring to the term but they get no additional tax breaks, pay-grades, social security or VA benefits for veterans, actually they got less.  

 It's not like anyone that contributed to the War Effort in WWII got anything extra from it.



This is not really a difficult question to answer.  I see two significant areas of which that generation failed miserably.  First, tens of thousands of men died in meaning wars and conflicts for the remainder of the 20th century. After WWII, none of those wars were not necessary.  Second, economically they failed once again.  In 1955 the US was the supreme economic power of the world.  We produced 80% of he cars, had the lion share of the gold reserves, we were a creditor nation, we had the technology, the resources, we even had the world reserve currency.  20 years later the US began the de-industrialization process and they profited by our industries going oversees.  So you may say they are the greatest generation, I don’t believe so.

Best regards,[/quote]

Would you also say it, america, was mostly about, and favored, in pretty much all aspects, the white heterosexual christian male too.....????

Were they not guilty of much of the blame, cause, effects, of repressing so many others in their attempt at homogenizing society to their own kind?

Am I not presently being told this wholesale, by historians, and in social commentaries.....???

Isn't that part of the reasons why some are running for the highest office in this land, and that by itself is reason to vote for them, as they represent a break from that past?

Is any of that part of your reasoning?

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by Matchless G11 on 06/07/19 at 17:35:16


3F282E222D3D4F0 wrote:
[quote author=49696B637E690C0 link=1559832687/0#5 date=1559909776]
"Frankly speaking I think they are a little over-rated."

 Why is that?  To me, there's some books and movies made referring to the term but they get no additional tax breaks, pay-grades, social security or VA benefits for veterans, actually they got less.  

 It's not like anyone that contributed to the War Effort in WWII got anything extra from it.



This is not really a difficult question to answer.  I see two significant areas of which that generation failed miserably.  First, tens of thousands of men died in meaning wars and conflicts for the remainder of the 20th century. After WWII, none of those wars were not necessary.  Second, economically they failed once again.  In 1955 the US was the supreme economic power of the world.  We produced 80% of he cars, had the lion share of the gold reserves, we were a creditor nation, we had the technology, the resources, we even had the world reserve currency.  20 years later the US began the de-industrialization process and they profited by our industries going oversees.  So you may say they are the greatest generation, I don’t believe so.

Best regards,[/quote]

Well, we certainly failed in China, If we had not left Chang Kai Shek out to dry, durring his fight against  Mao.
We probably would not have had Korea and Vietnam.  :-[

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by WebsterMark on 06/08/19 at 04:25:03

20 years later the US began the de-industrialization process and they profited by our industries going oversees.  

You're looking at this the wrong way PG.  Is it "we" began the de-industrialization process or did the freedom given to nations to enter the world economy begin that? I say its the latter that gave us a 'flat earth' from an economic point of view.

You ride a Japanese motorcycle. Most golf club heads are forged in Taiwan. I was on a conference call for work this week and there were people from dozens of countries including Russia. My boss is on his way to our office in Sweden right now. We opened a plant on Brazil last year. I had a German motorcycle not long ago and this Ipad I'm typing on was most likely made in China.

We live on a flat earth and we are all the better for it.

None of that would be possible without the success of WWII. We can only speculate what the world would be today had Germany, Japan and their lessor partners defeated Britain, France, Russia and the USA.

Which, by the way, is the primary reason the leftist and socialist in this nation need to be stopped. They ignore the fact that The USA plays the biggest role in keeping peace. Sure there have been wars, mistakes were made. But there has been nothing like a world war III and that's primarily because of the position the greatest generation left us in.

Don't nitpick over the occasional error and miss the big picture.

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/19 at 06:10:32

Excellent post,Match.
We shot ourselves down, removed ourselves from the position of power and sunk our own economy.
Made others prosperous at the expense of the American people.

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by raydawg on 06/08/19 at 07:36:17


2B343235282F1E2E1E26343873410 wrote:
Excellent post,Match.
We shot ourselves down, removed ourselves from the position of power and sunk our own economy.
Made others prosperous at the expense of the American people.


I always had this feelings that those who decide the fate of America came up with the idea it would be easier to export democracy via capitalism, instead of fighting wars, after WWII.

They knew full well it would eventually strike the blue collar, middle class, the most, but it would eventually even out, etc.

What they didn't factor in was the environmental movement pushed with religious fervor, that put another prong into the livelihood of those who had suffered the greatest at exporting capitalism.....
Which has given them a unfair manufacturing advantage.

Its like those who migrate to the states from their homeland, because of hardship, etc, and want to turn their new home into that of which they left.....
Those we helped to enter the world commerce with sustainable economies have turned it back on us, capitalizing on those who helped them to achieve it......

Maybe we need a different thread, as this is really getting away from the reason of respecting the lives of those surrendered theirs for us....      

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by WebsterMark on 06/09/19 at 04:46:47

Big picture people, big picture.....

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by T And T Garage on 06/10/19 at 07:50:09


685A5D4C4B5A4D725E4D543F0 wrote:
Big picture people, big picture.....


Indeed - big picture.  The chair of the RNC is a moron to think that D-Day has anything to do with trump.

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by pg on 06/10/19 at 11:19:05


5B696E7F78697E416D7E670C0 wrote:
We live on a flat earth and we are all the better for it.

None of that would be possible without the success of WWII. We can only speculate what the world would be today had Germany, Japan and their lessor partners defeated Britain, France, Russia and the USA.


Germany and Japan had no chance what so ever to be victorious, at  what cost is certainly debatable.  

I grew up in the rust belt and saw the economic carnage first hand, they got sold down the river and so did subsequent generations.

Best regards,

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