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Message started by T And T Garage on 05/28/19 at 08:40:06

Title: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by T And T Garage on 05/28/19 at 08:40:06

I wonder which president wrote which tweet?

1. On Memorial Day, we remember all those who gave everything for something greater than themselves. It's up to us to not simply reflect on their sacrifice but to honor it with service of our own—and by living out the values they fought for. (posted with a picture of himself with a family at a military cemetary)

2. #MemorialDay[ch127482][ch127480] (posted with a picture of himself, looking at a wreath)

BTW, this was a rhetorical question. We all know who wrote what.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by Eegore on 05/28/19 at 09:56:30

More important is why anyone would care.

What you do is more important and is worth more investigation than anything anyone else does, ever.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by T And T Garage on 05/28/19 at 10:25:57

09292B233E294C0 wrote:

More important is why anyone would care.

What you do is more important and is worth more investigation than anything anyone else does, ever.

I guess I could pose the same question, but in reflection - how can you not put creedence in the tweets of a president or former president?

The president (and former presidents) are not private citizens. Sad as that is, it's the truth. They are subject to public scrutiny for the rest of their lives and beyond. Presidents are held to a higher standard - as they should be. Therefore, they should conduct themselves with decorum and show respect to others.

I personally think that the current president fails at that - tremendously. The fact that he's never served in office a day in his life prior to being elected president makes me question his capabilities right off the bat - and he's not done anything to reassure me (or tens of millions of others in this country).

In my (and those millions of others') opinion, he's not fit to hold that office. He's a demagogue.

Further, I feel the need to point these things out to shine a light on the hypocrisy of the those who support him. His supporters had no problem criticizing Obama on far minor infractions than trump has made (golfing, social media use, visitors to the white house, etc). Yet this president is arguably the most unqualified, childish, thin-skinned, disrespectful, uncouth president in modern history.

I find it necessary to expose this and rub the conservatives' noses in it.

I think that's what this forum is about - commentary on politics and religion. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by thumperclone on 05/28/19 at 15:55:36

I find it necessary to expose this and rub the conservatives' noses in it.

I think that's what this forum is about - commentary on politics and religion. Please, correct me if I'm wrong.[/color][/quote]

just don't call some mind numbing child what he really is
or an arse an arse
or a spade a spade
rise above their antics/tactics
and keep rubbing their noses in the crap they and their orange one spew

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by Serowbot on 05/28/19 at 16:49:04

The topper is he used a picture from last year. ::)

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by pg on 05/28/19 at 18:25:32

6A747B7A776A716C1E0 wrote:

I find it necessary to expose this and rub the conservatives' noses in it.

Rub our noses it... All your doing with these meaningless posts is reinforcing your OCD TDS.

Also, it took Trump a mere week to dismantle the piss-poor legacy that was left behind.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by T And T Garage on 05/28/19 at 19:12:11

2C3B3D313E2E5C0 wrote:

[quote author=6A747B7A776A716C1E0 link=1559058006/0#2 date=1559064357]

I find it necessary to expose this and rub the conservatives' noses in it.

Rub our noses it... All your doing with these meaningless posts is reinforcing your OCD TDS.

Also, it took Trump a mere week to dismantle the piss-poor legacy that was left behind.

Best regards,[/quote]

"Piss poor"?

LOL - that's funny! So, what did dubya leave Obama???

You're so predictable.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by MadSavage on 05/28/19 at 21:49:53

415F50515C415A47350 wrote:

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by LostArtist on 05/28/19 at 23:36:33

4065696D656A040 wrote:

[quote author=415F50515C415A47350 link=1559058006/0#0 date=1559058006]I wonder which president wrote which tweet?

1. On Memorial Day, we remember all those who gave everything for something greater than themselves. It's up to us to not simply reflect on their sacrifice but to honor it with service of our own—and by living out the values they fought for. (posted with a picture of himself with a family at a military cemetary)

2. #MemorialDay[ch127482][ch127480] (posted with a picture of himself, looking at a wreath)

BTW, this was a rhetorical question. We all know who wrote what.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by MadSavage on 05/29/19 at 01:09:48

4F6C70774271776A7077030 wrote:

[quote author=4065696D656A040 link=1559058006/0#7 date=1559105393][quote author=415F50515C415A47350 link=1559058006/0#0 date=1559058006]I wonder which president wrote which tweet?

1. On Memorial Day, we remember all those who gave everything for something greater than themselves. It's up to us to not simply reflect on their sacrifice but to honor it with service of our own—and by living out the values they fought for. (posted with a picture of himself with a family at a military cemetary)

2. #MemorialDay[ch127482][ch127480] (posted with a picture of himself, looking at a wreath)

BTW, this was a rhetorical question. We all know who wrote what.

the

If I would Have to guess, first statement is Obama, it sounds like it's written by an assistant that says what's needed to make everything nice and fluffy. The second would be by an enigmatic -psycho... And whatever else Saturday night live and Facebook calls him- of course the rest of the media too. But who needs anything else to build an opinion. (I live in Chicago, where people say NPR is a conservative station). I'll admit that my first prayer when President Trump was elected was that he would stop his tweets. But my second was, thank you for shutting down the Clinton's once and for all. The problem with focusing on tweets, which might be why they are so intelligent in the end, is that we don't focus on the laws that get pushed on. No matter the president, no matter the news, look at the facts, not what's presented to you.
Do you know that Obama had more Illegal drone air strikes than all the past presidents put together? How about Clinton's three strikes your out? Who allowed private corporations to be individuals and donate all the money they want to a specific political group?
But more importantly, let's thank the Savage that allows people from each end of the spectrum to come together and ride better and safer![/quote]

which is WHY he tweets what he does when he does, to distract us

and: "Under Donald Trump, drone strikes far exceed Obama’s numbers"
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

"How about Clinton's three strikes your out? " "Lock her up" ring any bells? even though she'd be investigated by the FBI and Congress over 10 times..... but I will give Trump one thing, when a busty celebrity flatters him just right he can sign a good criminal justice reform bill... surprised the hell out of me, since he ran on "law and order" being tough on crime, and had the anti pot, racist Jeff Sessions as his AG.

"Who allowed private corporations to be individuals and donate all the money they want to a specific political group?"
that would be the SCOTUS. a case brought by Conservatives BTW, cause they didn't like the current law and wanted to break it

oh and let's not forget the trade war, the NOTHING deal with North Korea, who is shooting missiles again, the threatening with IRAN that will make Iraq look like nothing, the child separations, the obstruction of justice, the distancing ourselves from our NATO allies, the [/quote]

Well, it might be why he tweets the way he does but it doesn't matter, media is so far up his ass that nothing of importace should get by, and yet it does. Either way I didn't say it haphazardly, so we agree on that matter.

The rest of the comments are on how Trump is horrible, including the only article (I could find right now on Google) about his drone strikes superceding Obama's from the sun times, a news paper written at a fifth grade level (from a city more liberal and Trump hating than...?[ch129300]) Let's not forget that investigative journalism doesn't exist anymore. There is a great clip out there with the director of CNN explaining how it's totally logical to end investigative journalism and that it costs too much money. (Good night and good luck is a great movie which shows the beginning of the end journalism) Yes, yes, it is easily arguable that Trump could be the president in that movie.

Anyway, I mentioned those topics because they were relevant to Loved presidents, and that we never heard of those facts during their reign, and very little after. I was not searching for a simplistic Trump is worse response.

Thank you for your response on the corporation/private individual laws. My question was an honest one and I'll look it up further. When I looked up who permitted corporations to be able to donate political parties not much came up, and I was out of the country when it happened. However don't be fooled, when it comes to money (and power) politicians are all on the same side.

...I also have a weakness for busty celebrities, don't you?

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by T And T Garage on 05/29/19 at 05:58:28

0C2925212926480 wrote:

If I would Have to guess, first statement is Obama, it sounds like it's written by an assistant that says what's needed to make everything nice and fluffy. The second would be by an enigmatic -psycho... And whatever else Saturday night live and Facebook calls him- of course the rest of the media too.

You don't have to go to facebook or SNL to see what kind of moron trump is - look at him speak and tweet. At the same time, you don't need to assume that Obama has a staffer writing his tweets - he's prolific writer.

But who needs anything else to build an opinion. (I live in Chicago, where people say NPR is a conservative station).

Um, no, I have to disagree. I live in Chicago and there's no one I know that thinks NPR is conservative. (I get the joke, but it's not even close)

I'll admit that my first prayer when President Trump was elected was that he would stop his tweets. But my second was, thank you for shutting down the Clinton's once and for all.

Not a fan of clinton either - but she would have been far better than this moron.

The problem with focusing on tweets, which might be why they are so intelligent in the end, is that we don't focus on the laws that get pushed on. No matter the president, no matter the news, look at the facts, not what's
presented to you.

Well, tweets are coming from trump directly. He's the one who drives his policy with them. They are a direct reflection of the "man". Trust me, I look at the facts, not the media. The facts are clear that he is not fit for the office.

Do you know that Obama had more Illegal drone air strikes than all the past presidents put together?

How many presidents had a drone program prior to Obama? Not defending him - that's one of the bad parts of his presidency - but the drone program came to maturity under his administration and most every strike was a first of its kind. Keeping it real.

How about Clinton's three strikes your out?

Good point - not a fan, but not a game changer. Certainly not enough for me to vote for trump.

Who allowed private corporations to be individuals and donate all the money they want to a specific political group?

Well, that's citizen's united. A bunch on the right and some on the left love it. (remember mitt? "corporations are people my friend"..). CU is one of the worst things to ever happen to our political structure.

But more importantly, let's thank the Savage that allows people from each end of the spectrum to come together and ride better and safer![/quote]

True! I also like the Savage for the versatility of the bike (currently working on making a bobber). Love the thumper!

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by pg on 05/29/19 at 14:37:38

5E404F4E435E45582A0 wrote:

You're so predictable.

Now now, I don't think you saw the piss-poor rope-a-dope coming or the OCD add-on.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by T And T Garage on 05/29/19 at 16:57:50

6C7B7D717E6E1C0 wrote:

[quote author=5E404F4E435E45582A0 link=1559058006/0#6 date=1559095931]

You're so predictable.

Now now, I don't think you saw the piss-poor rope-a-dope coming or the OCD add-on.

Best regards,[/quote]

So.... no answer then as to what dubya left Obama?

Yeah, like I said - predictable.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by pg on 05/29/19 at 17:05:38

5C424D4C415C475A280 wrote:

[quote author=6C7B7D717E6E1C0 link=1559058006/0#11 date=1559165858][quote author=5E404F4E435E45582A0 link=1559058006/0#6 date=1559095931]

You're so predictable.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by T And T Garage on 05/29/19 at 17:13:58

6176707C7363110 wrote:

[quote author=5C424D4C415C475A280 link=1559058006/0#12 date=1559174270][quote author=6C7B7D717E6E1C0 link=1559058006/0#11 date=1559165858][quote author=5E404F4E435E45582A0 link=1559058006/0#6 date=1559095931]

You're so predictable.

Now now, I don't think you saw the piss-poor rope-a-dope coming or the OCD add-on.

Best regards,[/quote]

So.... no answer then as to what dubya left Obama?

Yeah, like I said - predictable.
[/quote]

And that is coming from someone who doesn't appreciate "whataboutisms."

Bush was a moron, a true deep state hack, just like every member of his family. His legacy was awful, yet a difference exists between W and Barry. Barry campaigned against all his short comings, then perpetuated many of them.

Best regards,[/quote]

You're entitled to your opinion. But you can't dodge the fact that Obama left trump a far FAR better country than he was left.

Unemployment way down, OBL dead, auto industry saved, DOW and corporate profits at record levels, new job creation, our status on the world stage - all thanks to Obama's administration.

Like I said before, trump walked onto third base and thought he hit a home run. He walked into this job. He's only signed the republican establishment bills and EO's put in front of him.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by MadSavage on 05/30/19 at 14:37:54

4C525D5C514C574A380 wrote:

[quote author=0C2925212926480 link=1559058006/0#7 date=1559105393][quote author=415F50515C415A47350 link=1559058006/0#0 date=1559058006]I wonder which president wrote which tweet?

1. On Memorial Day, we remember all those who gave everything for something greater than themselves. It's up to us to not simply reflect on their sacrifice but to honor it with service of our own—and by living out the values they fought for. (posted with a picture of himself with a family at a military cemetary)

2. #MemorialDay[ch127482][ch127480] (posted with a picture of himself, looking at a wreath)

BTW, this was a rhetorical question. We all know who wrote what.

Title: Re: Memorial Day Tweets
Post by T And T Garage on 05/30/19 at 18:35:07

6E4B47434B442A0 wrote:

Hey T and T, I like your response break down.

Thanks Mad!

I can not pm yet but if you are still in Chicago we should meet up. Also planning on transforming into a bobber, (reassuring myself I'll buy another to make a cafe Racer haha) but first I'm getting it in 'perfect' mechanical shape. I also saw two others on the map in Chicago. Haven't had the time to reach out though. Are you in Chicago or... The burbs?
haha

LOL - nope, actually in Chicago - NW side.

For the NPR comment, it does sound like an exaggerated joke, but I have actually had it said to me! Really? Wow, that's sad. (guess they never listened to WLS!)