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Message started by pg on 05/12/19 at 17:57:06

Title: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/12/19 at 17:57:06

'There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust'  -  Tlaib

(not the onion)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rashida-tlaib-says-thinking-of-the-holocaust-provides-her-a-calming-feeling-shockingly-claims-palestinians-created-safe-haven-for-jews

Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by raydawg on 05/12/19 at 19:52:26

Its Ok.....

Ya know, Jews killed Jesus.........too.  :-?

And then there is this:  

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., had made "a bad call" by allowing a Texas imam with a history of anti-Israel comments to deliver the noon prayer in the House of Representatives last week.

In 2017, the Algemeiner reported that Suleiman had posted an image on social media supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in 2013 and had posted on Facebook and Twitter during the 2014 conflict between Israel and Hamas: "God willing on this blessed night as the 3rd Intifada begins, the beginning of the end of Zionism is here. May Allah help us overcome this monster, protect the innocent of the world, and accept the murdered as martyrs."

Suleiman had posted a video purporting to show conflicts between Palestinians and Israeli soldiers with the comment: "Want to know what its [sic] like to live under Nazis? Look no further than how the Palestinians are treated daily by apartheid Israel. Sickening." That post was accompanied by the hashtag "BDS," an acronym for the anti-Israel "Boycott, Divest, Sanction" movement.


The new democrat party?  :-X

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by Eegore on 05/12/19 at 20:06:29


 I think allowing people with various views of US policy to deliver prayer is an example of what our country stands for.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by WebsterMark on 05/13/19 at 05:11:37

I hear David Duke is available, give him a call.

Seriously Eegore, you need to rethink that last comment of yours. Like Pelosi, you made a bad call.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by Eegore on 05/13/19 at 05:36:55


 What religions and political viewpoints should be allowed and how do we reach a consensus on what religions, and what specific views are acceptable?

 There has to be some standard presented if we are going to start disallowing opinions.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 06:09:24


7151535B4651340 wrote:
 I think allowing people with various views of US policy to deliver prayer is an example of what our country stands for.



Well put Eegore.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by oldNslow on 05/13/19 at 06:10:13


Quote:
'There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust'  -  Tlaib


Couple of good wiffs of ZYKLON B would calm her ignorant a*s down even more. It truly astonishes me that a POS like her could be elected to congress. And it's not real easy to surprise me anymore.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 06:16:52


7A4445495B4746280 wrote:

Quote:
'There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust'  -  Tlaib


Couple of good wiffs of ZYKLON B would calm her ignorant a*s down even more. It truly astonishes me that a POS like her could be elected to congress. And it's not real easy to surprise me anymore.



old - you should probably read the entire quote to get the context.

Yeah - her recollection of the history is off - but you make it sound like she "enjoyed the holocaust.  Simply not true.

Context matters.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by oldNslow on 05/13/19 at 06:30:34


667877767B667D60120 wrote:
[quote author=7A4445495B4746280 link=1557709026/0#6 date=1557753013]
Quote:
'There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust'  -  Tlaib


Couple of good wiffs of ZYKLON B would calm her ignorant a*s down even more. It truly astonishes me that a POS like her could be elected to congress. And it's not real easy to surprise me anymore.



old - you should probably read the entire quote to get the context.

Yeah - her recollection of the history is off - but you make it sound like she "enjoyed the holocaust.  Simply not true.

Context matters.[/quote]

I did read the entire quote and I'm well aware of the context. Her recollection of history is not "off", it is pure bulls*it.

Please don't tell me you are in any way defending her.




Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 06:49:39


516F6E62706C6D030 wrote:
[quote author=667877767B667D60120 link=1557709026/0#7 date=1557753412][quote author=7A4445495B4746280 link=1557709026/0#6 date=1557753013]
Quote:
'There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust'  -  Tlaib


Couple of good wiffs of ZYKLON B would calm her ignorant a*s down even more. It truly astonishes me that a POS like her could be elected to congress. And it's not real easy to surprise me anymore.



old - you should probably read the entire quote to get the context.

Yeah - her recollection of the history is off - but you make it sound like she "enjoyed the holocaust.  Simply not true.

Context matters.[/quote]

I did read the entire quote and I'm well aware of the context. Her recollection of history is not "off", it is pure bulls*it.

Please don't tell me you are in any way defending her.
[/quote]


I'm saying that your quote was out of context.  I think she's fine with what she said.

"There’s always kind of a calming feeling I tell folks when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people's passports," Tlaib said just after the 28 minute mark. "And just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right, in many ways. But they did it in a way that took their human dignity away and it was forced on them. And so when I think about a one-state, I think about the fact that, why couldn't we do it in a better way?”

When asked whether advocating for a one-state solution could be seen as reckless, Tlaib replied,"No, I'm coming from a place of love, for equality and justice, I truly am."
"I want a safe haven for Jews," she added. "Who doesn't want to be safe? I am humbled by the fact that it was my ancestors that had to suffer for that to happen, but I will not turn my back and allow others to hijack it and say that it's some extremist approach because they're coming from a place of... whatever it is... of division, inequality.


See, context of the ENTIRE quote is needed.

I don't need to defend her - there's nothing to defend.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 06:55:28


0836373B2935345A0 wrote:
[quote author=667877767B667D60120 link=1557709026/0#7 date=1557753412][quote author=7A4445495B4746280 link=1557709026/0#6 date=1557753013]
Quote:
'There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust'  -  Tlaib


Couple of good wiffs of ZYKLON B would calm her ignorant a*s down even more. It truly astonishes me that a POS like her could be elected to congress. And it's not real easy to surprise me anymore.



old - you should probably read the entire quote to get the context.

Yeah - her recollection of the history is off - but you make it sound like she "enjoyed the holocaust.  Simply not true.

Context matters.[/quote]

I did read the entire quote and I'm well aware of the context. Her recollection of history is not "off", it is pure bulls*it.

Please don't tell me you are in any way defending her.



[/quote]


I concur with your opinion.

Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 06:57:36

Tlaib replied,"No, I'm coming from a place of love, for equality and justice, I truly am."  "I want a safe haven for Jews,"

;D

Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 06:59:10


1C3C3E362B3C590 wrote:
 What religions and political viewpoints should be allowed and how do we reach a consensus on what religions, and what specific views are acceptable?

 There has to be some standard presented if we are going to start disallowing opinions.



I believe that has been established, if you are white or support Christianity you are chastised.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 07:11:16


4E595F535C4C3E0 wrote:
[quote author=1C3C3E362B3C590 link=1557709026/0#4 date=1557751015]
 What religions and political viewpoints should be allowed and how do we reach a consensus on what religions, and what specific views are acceptable?

 There has to be some standard presented if we are going to start disallowing opinions.



I believe that has been established, if you are white or support Christianity you are chastised.  

Best regards,[/quote]

LOL - now that's a good one!  Only in America, where Christianity and whites are the majority can you claim "if you are white or support Christianity you are chastised" - too funny.

Oh, poor you.... poor white, Christian.  You can't go to Walmart without being looked at funny.  Every time you walk by a single black woman, she clutches her purse tighter.  Everytime you go and apply for a job, the guy with the "ethnic name" gets an interview before you.

;D

Now that's funny!!!

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 08:33:41


455B545558455E43310 wrote:
[quote author=4E595F535C4C3E0 link=1557709026/0#12 date=1557755950][quote author=1C3C3E362B3C590 link=1557709026/0#4 date=1557751015]
 What religions and political viewpoints should be allowed and how do we reach a consensus on what religions, and what specific views are acceptable?

 There has to be some standard presented if we are going to start disallowing opinions.



I believe that has been established, if you are white or support Christianity you are chastised.  

Best regards,[/quote]

LOL - now that's a good one!  Only in America, where Christianity and whites are the majority can you claim "if you are white or support Christianity you are chastised" - too funny.

Oh, poor you.... poor white, Christian.  You can't go to Walmart without being looked at funny.  Every time you walk by a single black woman, she clutches her purse tighter.  Everytime you go and apply for a job, the guy with the "ethnic name" gets an interview before you.

;D

Now that's funny!!!
[/quote]


This isn't funny.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups

Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by oldNslow on 05/13/19 at 09:03:10

Millions murdered, mostly Jews, but also gypsies, physically and mentally disabled and other "undesirables" but according to Tlaib the Holocaust REALLY REALLY sucked for the poor Palestinians ( Whose leader at the time was a Nazi collaborator by the way).

Boo fu*kin* Hoo.


Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 09:54:30


4354525E5141330 wrote:
[quote author=455B545558455E43310 link=1557709026/0#13 date=1557756676][quote author=4E595F535C4C3E0 link=1557709026/0#12 date=1557755950][quote author=1C3C3E362B3C590 link=1557709026/0#4 date=1557751015]
 What religions and political viewpoints should be allowed and how do we reach a consensus on what religions, and what specific views are acceptable?

 There has to be some standard presented if we are going to start disallowing opinions.



I believe that has been established, if you are white or support Christianity you are chastised.  

Best regards,[/quote]

LOL - now that's a good one!  Only in America, where Christianity and whites are the majority can you claim "if you are white or support Christianity you are chastised" - too funny.

Oh, poor you.... poor white, Christian.  You can't go to Walmart without being looked at funny.  Every time you walk by a single black woman, she clutches her purse tighter.  Everytime you go and apply for a job, the guy with the "ethnic name" gets an interview before you.

;D

Now that's funny!!!
[/quote]


This isn't funny.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

"In late September 2017, an exhaustive report by the Treasury Department's inspector general found that from 2004 to 2013, the IRS used both conservative and liberal keywords to choose targets for further scrutiny."

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups

Best regards,[/quote]

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 09:55:50


0C32333F2D31305E0 wrote:
Millions murdered, mostly Jews, but also gypsies, physically and mentally disabled and other "undesirables" but according to Tlaib the Holocaust REALLY REALLY sucked for the poor Palestinians ( Whose leader at the time was a Nazi collaborator by the way).

Boo fu*kin* Hoo.


LOL - it baffles me that you somehow get that from her quote.

Do you work for fox "news"?  

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by oldNslow on 05/13/19 at 10:42:11


544A454449544F52200 wrote:
[quote author=0C32333F2D31305E0 link=1557709026/15#15 date=1557763390]Millions murdered, mostly Jews, but also gypsies, physically and mentally disabled and other "undesirables" but according to Tlaib the Holocaust REALLY REALLY sucked for the poor Palestinians ( Whose leader at the time was a Nazi collaborator by the way).

Boo fu*kin* Hoo.


LOL - it baffles me that you somehow get that from her quote.

Do you work for fox "news"?  
[/quote]

Maybe you ought to reread it. She's claiming victim status and pretending to not be antisemitic. "I'm coming from a place of love, for equality and justice, I truly am."
Sure she is. ::)


Type this name into your search engine, read his bio.
Mohammed Amin al-Husseini

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 12:14:15

"I'm coming from a place of love, for equality and justice, - and many many unguided rockets.....

Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 12:27:57


756264686777050 wrote:
"I'm coming from a place of love, for equality and justice, - and many many unguided rockets.....

Best regards,



What's really funny and sad about that comment you just made is that people will actually believe that she said it.

The low IQ, gullible and intentionally ignorant ones.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by MnSpring on 05/13/19 at 17:38:09


415F50515C415A47350 wrote:
The low IQ, gullible and intentionally ignorant ones.

Gosh, that sounds like those people that believed Sarah Brady when she LIED.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by oldNslow on 05/13/19 at 17:58:29

Even CNN found it impossible to swallow Tlaib's nonsense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg2wbOZaio0


Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/13/19 at 18:25:40


617F70717C617A67150 wrote:
[quote author=516F6E62706C6D030 link=1557709026/0#8 date=1557754234][quote author=667877767B667D60120 link=1557709026/0#7 date=1557753412][quote author=7A4445495B4746280 link=1557709026/0#6 date=1557753013]
Quote:
'There’s always kind of a calming feeling, I tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust'  -  Tlaib


Couple of good wiffs of ZYKLON B would calm her ignorant a*s down even more. It truly astonishes me that a POS like her could be elected to congress. And it's not real easy to surprise me anymore.



old - you should probably read the entire quote to get the context.

Yeah - her recollection of the history is off - but you make it sound like she "enjoyed the holocaust.  Simply not true.

Context matters.[/quote]

I did read the entire quote and I'm well aware of the context. Her recollection of history is not "off", it is pure bulls*it.

Please don't tell me you are in any way defending her.
[/quote]


I'm saying that your quote was out of context.  I think she's fine with what she said.

"There’s always kind of a calming feeling I tell folks when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people's passports," Tlaib said just after the 28 minute mark. "And just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right, in many ways. But they did it in a way that took their human dignity away and it was forced on them. And so when I think about a one-state, I think about the fact that, why couldn't we do it in a better way?”

When asked whether advocating for a one-state solution could be seen as reckless, Tlaib replied,"No, I'm coming from a place of love, for equality and justice, I truly am."
"I want a safe haven for Jews," she added. "Who doesn't want to be safe? I am humbled by the fact that it was my ancestors that had to suffer for that to happen, but I will not turn my back and allow others to hijack it and say that it's some extremist approach because they're coming from a place of... whatever it is... of division, inequality.


See, context of the ENTIRE quote is needed.

I don't need to defend her - there's nothing to defend.
[/quote]


She was taken out of context.
I'm glad I had the whole quote to see .


Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 18:59:10


27383E3924231222122A38347F4D0 wrote:
She was taken out of context.
I'm glad I had the whole quote to see .


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

Take a look at some of those pictures and figures.  She did not choose her words wisely and it is an insult to those who perished.


Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by oldNslow on 05/13/19 at 19:17:28


Quote:
She was taken out of context.


Let me pull another one of her comments "out of context" then.

"And so when I think about a one-state, I think about the fact that, why couldn't we do it in a better way?”

Do you know what a "one state solution" means to a Palestinian ?
Gotta wonder what "better way" she's got in mind.


I know you aren't a fan of Israel JOG, but I'm pretty sure you can read between the lines.




Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/13/19 at 20:05:59

I'm not trying to debate the whole Israel/Palestine issue.
She was Accused of saying that she gets a warm feeling when she thinks about the holocaust.
She was actually saying that
Because her ancestors gave Jews a place
That was comforting.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/14/19 at 06:12:43


003E3F33213D3C520 wrote:
[quote author=544A454449544F52200 link=1557709026/15#17 date=1557766550][quote author=0C32333F2D31305E0 link=1557709026/15#15 date=1557763390]Millions murdered, mostly Jews, but also gypsies, physically and mentally disabled and other "undesirables" but according to Tlaib the Holocaust REALLY REALLY sucked for the poor Palestinians ( Whose leader at the time was a Nazi collaborator by the way).

Boo fu*kin* Hoo.


LOL - it baffles me that you somehow get that from her quote.

Do you work for fox "news"?  
[/quote]

Maybe you ought to reread it. She's claiming victim status and pretending to not be antisemitic. "I'm coming from a place of love, for equality and justice, I truly am."
Sure she is. ::)

"Victim"?  Well old - what difference does it make to try and show you the truth when you dismiss her as a liar?  There's no helping you.


Type this name into your search engine, read his bio.
Mohammed Amin al-Husseini
[/quote]

I have, thanks.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/14/19 at 08:32:36

Victim"?  Well old - what difference does it make to try and show you the truth when you dismiss her as a liar?  There's no helping you.

Odd you'd go there.
You can't see the obvious when Trump is involved.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/14/19 at 11:25:57


607F797E63645565556D7F73380A0 wrote:
Victim"?  Well old - what difference does it make to try and show you the truth when you dismiss her as a liar?  There's no helping you.

Odd you'd go there.
You can't see the obvious when Trump is involved.



LOL - oh, I can see the obvious when it comes to trump.

He's a proven liar, bully, serial tweeter and con-man.

If you ask me, he deserves way more ridicule and torment.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/14/19 at 16:22:51

Does anyone understand that 10M souls perished in the holocaust who were not Jewish?

Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by Eegore on 05/14/19 at 16:25:00

"Does anyone understand that 10M souls perished in the holocaust who were not Jewish?"

 Right, but she is talking about Jews that were effected specifically.

 I still don't know why it matters if she says a morning prayer though.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by oldNslow on 05/14/19 at 16:56:43


Quote:
Well old - what difference does it make to try and show you the truth when you dismiss her as a liar?  


Well, we are in agreement about that. I do dismiss her as a liar. Because she is. Her version of history is a fabrication. She omitted the most important fact. The part about her ancestors, who provided a" safe haven" for the Jews by their sacrifices, according to her, hitching their wagon to Hitler, expecting to participate in the annihilation of the Jews that were in the middle east at that time, and finding themselves on the losing side.

And implying that somehow that  their hardship is equivalent to the deliberate murder of millions.

Which gives us Hamas, Hezbollah,the PLO, and all the stupid, antisemitic,anti Zionist liberals in this country who actually believe that the Israelis are the reason for the problems in the middle east, and are perfectly happy to attempt to rewrite history to make that so, even when it so obviously is not.

You are trying to defend the indefensible.
.


Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/14/19 at 17:44:00

I heard the words come out of her mouth today. She's either an idiot or liar or both.
Listening to her talk is like listening to a first grader trying to read Run Dikk Run. Good grief she's an idiot.
And some of the claims she made contradict reality.
I apologize for standing up for her

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by raydawg on 05/14/19 at 17:53:49

It doves, but of course, I will be dismissed.....

Until a person can be honest to, and about, themselves, you can't begin to build any sort of understandings with ANYONE, and YOURSELF, being the biggest obstacle.

Understand its implication, or stay in your rut......until you die.

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/14/19 at 18:05:16

Tlaib explained. "You know, I got a text from a friend who's like, 'Hey, next time, you know, really clarify. Maybe talk like a fourth grader because maybe the racist idiots would understand you better.'"

Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/15/19 at 06:59:19


6176707C7363110 wrote:
Tlaib explained. "You know, I got a text from a friend who's like, 'Hey, next time, you know, really clarify. Maybe talk like a fourth grader because maybe the racist idiots would understand you better.'"

Best regards,



LOL - that's hilarious!  That's what she should do from now on - talk like trump!

;D

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/15/19 at 07:00:52


233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 wrote:
I heard the words come out of her mouth today. She's either an idiot or liar or both.
Listening to her talk is like listening to a first grader trying to read Run Dikk Run. Good grief she's an idiot.
And some of the claims she made contradict reality.
I apologize for standing up for her



I wondered how long it would take... no surprise... :D

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by MnSpring on 05/15/19 at 08:42:39


362827262B362D30420 wrote:
[quote author=233C3A3D20271626162E3C307B490 link=1557709026/30#33 date=1557881040]I heard the words come out of her mouth today. She's either an idiot or liar or both.
Listening to her talk is like listening to a first grader trying to read Run Dikk Run. Good grief she's an idiot.
And some of the claims she made contradict reality.
I apologize for standing up for her

I wondered how long it would take... no surprise... :D[/quote]
Again, no one here, 'KNOWS' you ?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by pg on 05/15/19 at 19:22:42


322C23222F322934460 wrote:
[quote author=6176707C7363110 link=1557709026/30#35 date=1557882316] Tlaib explained. "You know, I got a text from a friend who's like, 'Hey, next time, you know, really clarify. Maybe talk like a fourth grader because maybe the racist idiots would understand you better.'"

Best regards,



LOL - that's hilarious!  That's what she should do from now on - talk like trump!

;D[/quote]


Hillary used the term 'deplorables' and lost!


Best regards,

Title: Re: 'kind of a calming feeling'
Post by T And T Garage on 05/16/19 at 06:11:53


1205030F0010620 wrote:
[quote author=322C23222F322934460 link=1557709026/30#36 date=1557928759][quote author=6176707C7363110 link=1557709026/30#35 date=1557882316] Tlaib explained. "You know, I got a text from a friend who's like, 'Hey, next time, you know, really clarify. Maybe talk like a fourth grader because maybe the racist idiots would understand you better.'"

Best regards,



LOL - that's hilarious!  That's what she should do from now on - talk like trump!

;D[/quote]


Hillary used the term 'deplorables' and lost!


Best regards,
[/quote]

Yep - but she was spot on.

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