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Message started by pg on 05/12/19 at 08:16:42

Title: A warning from the dead
Post by pg on 05/12/19 at 08:16:42

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69XHTgLEJq4&list=WL&index=59&t=7138s[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69XHTgLEJq4&list=WL&index=59&t=7138s

I suggest opening another window and continue to listen.

Best regards,

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by MnSpring on 05/12/19 at 14:20:01

Two of the, Systems’ in place, to prevent Socialist take over of the USA.
Are the 1st and 2nd, Amendments.
BOTH, which are under attack.

The 1st., ONLY the UL FDS Socialists can speak.
(with the help of 80% [+/-] of the media)
NO ONE ELSE CAN.

The 2nd, where people, ‘believe’, regulations,
regulating the right, and freedom to own, and use firearms,
are ok ! (Until they are ‘regulated’ right out of their Freedom)

The 2nd, keeps the 1st in place.
When the 2nd goes, the 1st will fall.
Then the rest will follow, Very Fast !

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by pg on 05/12/19 at 16:35:22

How many times have you heard top, down, bottom up, inside out?

Best regards,

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 06:17:47

;D ;D ;D

glenn is funny!

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 06:51:36

4A545B5A574A514C3E0 wrote:

;D ;D ;D

glenn is funny!

I see you could not even muster a single retort.....

Best regards,

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 07:07:02

7B6C6A6669790B0 wrote:

[quote author=4A545B5A574A514C3E0 link=1557674202/0#3 date=1557753467] ;D ;D ;D

glenn is funny!

I see you could not even muster a single retort.....

Best regards,[/quote]

What is there to retort?

It's a fantasy/fallacy of glenn's damaged little brian.

No one is trying to "overthrow" what we have now in this country. Not Bernie, not AOC - no one. These "terrible" democratic socialists are trying to actually help the majority of the population in this country. They're trying to make things better for the middle class.

It's idiots like beck who post fear tinged messages like this one, to try and scare people into believing that kind of nonsense.

No - socialism will not succeed on its own. Neither will capitalism. What we have (and have always had) in this country is a blended system - and right now is an unbalanced system. We are far too heavy on the capitalistic practices and far too lax on the socialist side. We reward companies and billionaires with tax breaks, and turn around and raise taxes on the middle class.

People like glenn beck are hacks. He's right there with alex jones. Fear is what they preach and it speaks to the dumbest and the willfully ignorant in this country. Cue scary music and play it under Obama speaking.... LOL!

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 08:14:50

677976777A677C61130 wrote:

[quote author=7B6C6A6669790B0 link=1557674202/0#4 date=1557755496][quote author=4A545B5A574A514C3E0 link=1557674202/0#3 date=1557753467] ;D ;D ;D

glenn is funny!

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by MnSpring on 05/13/19 at 08:38:47

594748494459425F2D0 wrote:

Not Bernie, not AOC - no one. These "terrible" democratic socialists are trying to actually help the majority of the population in this country. They're trying to make things better for the middle class.

This is what you see, after their masks are off ?

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 09:39:16

6B7C7A7679691B0 wrote:

[quote author=677976777A677C61130 link=1557674202/0#5 date=1557756422][quote author=7B6C6A6669790B0 link=1557674202/0#4 date=1557755496][quote author=4A545B5A574A514C3E0 link=1557674202/0#3 date=1557753467] ;D ;D ;D

glenn is funny!

I see you could not even muster a single retort.....

Best regards,[/quote]

What is there to retort?

It's a fantasy/fallacy of glenn's damaged little brian.
[/quote]

Typical Alinsky style tactics, attack the character and ridicule when you have nothing else.....

Best regards,[/quote]

LOL - Typical conservative response. Yeah pro golfer, don't bother to address the rest of my post regarding my comments on socialism - that is what you wanted, wasn't it?

I give you what you ask for then you reject it because you can't/won't debate it.

Just keep being willfully ignorant.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 09:40:08

0625183B3922252C4B0 wrote:

[quote author=594748494459425F2D0 link=1557674202/0#5 date=1557756422] Not Bernie, not AOC - no one. These "terrible" democratic socialists are trying to actually help the majority of the population in this country. They're trying to make things better for the middle class.

This is what you see, after their masks are off ?
[/quote]

"Masks"? No mn - there aren't any "masks". They speak truth to power.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by Serowbot on 05/13/19 at 09:43:38

Is that Colonel Sanders?... :-?

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 12:07:03

746A656469746F72000 wrote:

[quote author=6B7C7A7679691B0 link=1557674202/0#6 date=1557760490][quote author=677976777A677C61130 link=1557674202/0#5 date=1557756422][quote author=7B6C6A6669790B0 link=1557674202/0#4 date=1557755496][quote author=4A545B5A574A514C3E0 link=1557674202/0#3 date=1557753467] ;D ;D ;D

glenn is funny!

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 12:29:55

746365696676040 wrote:

Ok, what part would you like me to address?

Best regards,

I don't care. But don't sit there and blame me for not responding to your liking, and then turn around and do the exact same thing you accuse me of.

That's called hypocrisy.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 16:34:26

People like glenn beck are hacks. He's right there with alex jones. Fear is what they preach and it speaks to the dumbest and the willfully ignorant in this country. Cue scary music and play it under Obama speaking.... LOL!
Back to top

Although I'm not a great fan of Beck, he certainly is not in the same company as Jones. Moreover you and your constitutents have been been preaching the world is going to end becuase of global warming, I mean climate change, or whatever it is going to be next year. Before you acuse someone of hypocrisy, make sure you're not standing in a glass house.

Best regards,

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 17:28:16

3720262A2535470 wrote:

Well pro golfer, unlike you, I've taken steps to try and make a difference.

You proudly proclaimed you didn't.

But you go right ahead and not believe that we're killing ourselves and dooming our children and grandchildren.

At least my progeny will know that I tried to do something.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by pg on 05/13/19 at 17:37:53

https://endcoal.org/global-coal-plant-tracker/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JKJJa-jwK6YpkEQKP2bcENHR2yoS40ur8baQnIXHtIU/edit#gid=0

6,732 operating coal power plants world wide with another 725 preapproved plants being built. Even if I believed in climate change, nothing we can do in the US will have any effect whatsoever.

Best regards,

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/13/19 at 17:46:04

392E28242B3B490 wrote:

"Nothing we can do" is a cop out. Carbon tax. Clean energy subsidies/incentives. Just go watch the John Oliver video I posted.

There's a boatload we can do.

The politicians are in the pocket of the oil companies. Just do the math.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/14/19 at 12:15:50

[pre][/pre]The politicians are in the pocket of the oil companies. Just do the math.

Oooh, if I said that
It would have been
A Conspeeerasee theory.

Look at how the Paris accord is working out.
America has dropped co2 emissions.
As if they make a difference.
Is it just me or is it kinda funny watching
Global Warming Alarmists

FLY THEIR JETS to protests
And Fat Al Gore uses cities worth of electricity
And
Buys property that HE BELIEVES will be under water.
Such conflict between words and behavior could cause someone who ISN'T an idiot to wonder.

Co2 feeds plants
Plants create oxygen
Plants create shade
Cooling the ground
The Medieval warm period was warmer than it is now.
Humans survived.
Flourished.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/14/19 at 13:23:24

253A3C3B2621102010283A367D4F0 wrote:

[pre][/pre]The politicians are in the pocket of the oil companies. Just do the math.

Oooh, if I said that
It would have been
A Conspeeerasee theory.

Aww, poor you jog. The fact is. I've been saying that for quite a while... So no - had you said it, I would have agreed with you.

Look at how the Paris accord is working out.
America has dropped co2 emissions.
As if they make a difference.
Is it just me or is it kinda funny watching
Global Warming Alarmists

America is a World Leader (not sure how at this point, but we are). When we give up, so will others. It was a stupid thing to do.

FLY THEIR JETS to protests
And Fat Al Gore uses cities worth of electricity
And
Buys property that HE BELIEVES will be under water.
Such conflict between words and behavior could cause someone who ISN'T an idiot to wonder.

Again - you're ignorant to the bigger picture. it's about bringing awareness. But why the hell should you care, right?

Co2 feeds plants
Plants create oxygen
Plants create shade
Cooling the ground
The Medieval warm period was warmer than it is now.
Humans survived.
Flourished.

Go visit Venus and see how many plants are growing.....

Your CO2 equation is easily debunked.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/14/19 at 15:48:48

Ha ha ha, you didn't go off the rails at all there.
Really? Another PLANET?
That's your model?
You're insane.
No my co2 model can't be debunked.
SCIENCE proves it.
Satellite imagery proves it.
I've ALREADY shown it.
Doofus

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by T And T Garage on 05/15/19 at 06:48:07

67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 wrote:

Aww, sorry to burst your bubble jog, but once again, your foil hat conspiracy is easily dismissed:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ask-the-experts-does-rising-co2-benefit-plants1/

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/2018/03/12/what-science-says-about-role-of-co2-in-climate-change/#.XNwWYNNKi9Y

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/sep/19/new-study-undercuts-favorite-climate-myth-more-co2-is-good-for-plants

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/rising-carbon-dioxide-greening-earth-it-s-not-all-good-news/

http://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/science/climate-change-plants-global-greening.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-skeptics-want-more-co2/

There's tons more out there jog - you're just willfully ignorant.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by Eegore on 05/15/19 at 13:15:42

"No my co2 model can't be debunked.
SCIENCE proves it."

To be fair you mean selective SCIENCE as you don't acknowledge the portions of a study you don't "care" about.

Like the large multi-year study you wont read, but will reference if the section supports your theory. Dismissing the analysis of man-made alterations and ignoring that tree density, in the very study you reference, is not an indicator of safe CO2 levels.

That study's CO2 information is real science, each measurement is quantified using gas chromatography/flame ionization detector/mass spectroscopy. Those results come from a culmination of various carbon sinks. That's measurable, verifiable and reproducible, but who cares about that part. Lets just say "more trees is good" and thus nullifies any other information about unsafe for humans CO2 levels.

Title: Re: A warning from the dead
Post by verslagen1 on 05/16/19 at 07:33:46

735351594453360 wrote:

Like the large multi-year study you wont read, but will reference if the section supports your theory. Dismissing the analysis of man-made alterations and ignoring that tree density, in the very study you reference, is not an indicator of safe CO2 levels. .

Which link is that?
I only saw opinion links.