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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> Move On......... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1555510106 Message started by raydawg on 04/17/19 at 07:08:26 |
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Title: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/17/19 at 07:08:26 All bitterness, anger and wrath, insult and slander must be removed from you, along with all wickedness. And be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving one another, just as God also forgave you in Christ. - Ephesians 4:31-32 The world holds few if any rewards for those who remain angrily focused upon the past. Still, the act of forgiveness is difficult for all but the most saintly men and women. Are you mired in the quicksand of bitterness or regret? If so, you are not only disobeying God’s Word; you are also wasting your time. Being frail, fallible, imperfect human beings, most of us are quick to anger, quick to blame, slow to forgive, and even slower to forget. Yet as Christians, we are commanded to forgive others, just as we, too, have been forgiven. If there exists even one person—alive or dead—against whom you hold bitter feelings, it’s time to forgive. Or, if you are embittered against yourself for some past mistake or shortcoming, it’s finally time to forgive yourself and move on. Hatred, bitterness, and regret are not part of God’s plan for your life. Forgiveness is. - Steve Arterburn Anger breeds remorse in the heart, discord in the home, bitterness in the community, and confusion in the state. - Billy Graham TODAY’S PRAYER Heavenly Father, free me from anger and bitterness. When I am angry, I cannot feel the peace that You intend for my life. When I am bitter, I cannot sense Your presence. Keep me mindful that forgiveness is Your commandment. Let me turn away from bitterness and instead claim the spiritual abundance that You offer through the gift of Your Son. Amen If you really seek truth about the world, which you are a member, then ask yourself, if you honestly can...... Why do you use the hate of others to justify and DENY YOURSELF of any semblance and opportunity of simple joy and happiness..... Instead, opting to stew in the very porridge of those you hate and despise....why? Do you not like yourself AS YOU ARE..... But must prove something, to someone else, as a means to self acceptance? I pray for you who seem so angry, caught in the snare of its powers over you..... |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/17/19 at 08:07:37 must be removed from you.. Sounds like we can't make those changes by our own will. |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by Eegore on 04/17/19 at 14:13:10 "must be removed from you.. Sounds like we can't make those changes by our own will. " It does sound like that, but I don't think its meaning "must be removed by someone other than you". A lot of traditional translation into English comes across as it was written in the original post. Removed from you could simply mean it has to be removed in general. Anything or anyone, including you could do it. |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by LostArtist on 04/17/19 at 14:53:38 careful Eegore, you're going to make heads explodes suggesting words mean what they say and not what the reader thinks they say... (not that the reader can't add value to a message through their interpretation of it.... just that they should realize that it's just that, THEIR interpretation...) |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by MnSpring on 04/17/19 at 15:20:53 74574B4C794A4C514B4C380 wrote:
Really ? So when someone has a POV, different than yours, they are a, 14372B2C192A2C312B2C580 wrote:
70534F487D4E48554F483C0 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/17/19 at 15:38:14 03203C3B0E3D3B263C3B4F0 wrote:
Why so childish dude? |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/17/19 at 15:40:41 4464666E7364010 wrote:
Exactly..... if you have trouble dealing with those listed issues, it is suggesting they need to be removed, for you to find peace, joy, etc..... How you remove them is uo to everyones own ability. |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by LostArtist on 04/17/19 at 15:45:38 34273F22273121460 wrote:
Why so childish dude? [/quote] until it is demonstrated that the minds on here can actually handle nuance and complicated ideas without resorting to whataboutism or tribalism, you deserve nothing |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by LostArtist on 04/17/19 at 15:51:12 41625F7C7E65626B0C0 wrote:
Really ? So when someone has a POV, different than yours, they are a, 14372B2C192A2C312B2C580 wrote:
70534F487D4E48554F483C0 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] neither of those replies were because the view point was different one was because the original poster, YOU, couldn't see that what was obvious and you completely failed to understand and the other was because it's a very established, highly ingrained position that is not new or in any way insightful and was meant only to distract from the actual conversation via whataboutism |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/17/19 at 15:58:35 Change of heart requires much prayer. Contrition, and reminding God of His promises. Ezekiel 36:26 [ch9658] SUM PIC XRF DEV STU Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. New Living Translation And I will give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit in you. I will take out your stony, stubborn heart and give you a tender, responsive heart. Pray until something happens... If you're not somehow changed, you're not saved. It's not possible. It's not like flipping a switch. My life changed three years ago, over the course of three months. The Reason we can't make the changes on our own are manifold. One of those being We can't Be what we aren't Have never felt what it feels like to be something else And have exactly Zero understanding of what it looks like to be free of all those feelings. Knowing what peace feels like was beyond my imagination. Stopping your hands from Doing evil isn't the same as having a heart that doesn't desire it. The Clean Hands of the religious hypocrites don't save them. Only asking for change until it's given will. Read the bible looking for dots to connect. |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/17/19 at 16:13:34 13302C2B1E2D2B362C2B5F0 wrote:
Why so childish dude? [/quote] until it is demonstrated that the minds on here can actually handle nuance and complicated ideas without resorting to whataboutism or tribalism, you deserve nothing [/quote] You reap what you sow...... |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by LostArtist on 04/17/19 at 16:14:56 2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
what the heck were you doing until 3 years ago...... ????? or don't I want to know? :-? |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/17/19 at 16:22:17 Jog...... I think each have to find their own discovery based on a true desire to change. Change is a constant endeavor, not a set goal. As believers, we know where the finality of the flesh is, and we reach beyond to the evermore, eternity, as promised. God can NOT deny himself, period, no exceptions, no prisoners. All things are lawful, but all things do not edify, and that is where each person needs the scrutiny of THEMSELVES, to see if they are indeed attaining that which they say they want, and BELIEVE..... None of us can do it for another, for we lack the capacity to see beyond our OWN sin. The bible is the road map, the directions, but its up to each to test themselves, and empower themselves, with it. Make sense? :) |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/17/19 at 16:30:57 I stand by my post. It literally took decades to get the response I knew I Could get. People treat me different than before. I see the world through a very different lens now. I FEEL things I had no idea about. And the peace is something I had never known. I Thought I had peace, until I actually did. It's right there in Ezekiel. I DIDN'T do it. Full disclosure I still have bad habits. I'm not done. Changing the mind is not finished. I don't have that ability either. Repentance is not sitting in a corner feeling bad about something you did. It, like the new heart, is a gift. |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/17/19 at 16:43:41 I too had a awakening...... Mine was instantaneous, when I was at the end of my rope, and all I saw was two choices, as if I stood upon the edge of a cliff, I jump off, or I "change" me, even tho I had no idea HOW TO CHANGE me. Jog, it was the very first time I quit playing with God, pretending, etc.... I frankly said, "God, if you are who you say you are, then take my life, I want nothing to do with it anymore....." BOOM......... I felt it...... I felt his presences.... I was changed, and just seconds ago I was thinking of jumping from that cliff, I now felt so peaceful, safe, and all the toxicity in my emotions, mind, thinking....gone. I know its not like that for everyone, listening to their testimonies, but for me I had a instantaneous one that only took 50 years ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/17/19 at 17:14:43 It isn't the same for everyone, I know, and I got it the way I could handle it. I think a lot of people Expect what you got. It doesn't have to be that way. I'm happy. I was never actually happy before. I was smiling and laughing, but the heart was empty. Not so today. You got yours in an instant. I got mine, every day, over time. Spectacular series of events. And still changing, but in smaller ways and slowly. Peace is really a good thing, innit? |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/17/19 at 17:28:17 756A6C6B7671407040786A662D1F0 wrote:
AMEN ;D Makes ya wanna share it, but ya gotta give it freely, no strings attached ;) |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by LostArtist on 04/17/19 at 21:02:34 5C4F574A4F59492E0 wrote:
Why so childish dude? [/quote] until it is demonstrated that the minds on here can actually handle nuance and complicated ideas without resorting to whataboutism or tribalism, you deserve nothing [/quote] You reap what you sow...... [/quote] exactly |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/18/19 at 06:46:16 Why does it appear you utter advice, yet absolve yourself of the same you give to others? You are not stupid, not by any means, but it appears the folly of your actions escape you. |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by LostArtist on 04/18/19 at 09:07:07 71627A67627464030 wrote:
the same could be said of you or anyone else |
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Title: Re: Move On......... Post by raydawg on 04/18/19 at 09:16:38 785B47407546405D4740340 wrote:
the same could be said of you or anyone else [/quote] YES.....perfect, so, given that, now what.....??? Continue in the hypocritical insanity of doing the same thing over, and over, OR......???? God, give me grace to accept the things that I cannot change Courage to change the things I can, and the Wisdom, and courage, to distinguish, the one from the other. Living one day at a time, Enjoying one moment at a time, Accepting hardship as a pathway to peace, Taking, as Jesus did, This sinful world as it is, Not as I would have it, Trusting that You will make all things right, If I surrender to Your will, So that I may be reasonably happy in this life, And supremely happy with You forever in the next. Have a good day Mike.....! :) |
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