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Title: Lefty heads explode
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/08/19 at 09:58:34

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/
 

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/08/19 at 10:42:53


67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 wrote:
https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/
 



Well, jog, like I've always said - us "leftists" are not for open borders.

That's a fox "news" talking point.

Pay attention.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by pg on 04/08/19 at 11:40:00


726C63626F726974060 wrote:
[quote author=67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 link=1554742714/0#0 date=1554742714]https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/
 



Well, jog, like I've always said - us "leftists" are not for open borders.

That's a fox "news" talking point.

Pay attention.[/quote]


That is what is referred to as 'craw fishin'.  You are crawling back while fishing at the same time.  Can't build a wall, don't separate the kids, let them in if they apply for asylum, American is build on diversity.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/08/19 at 12:32:13


7661676B6474060 wrote:
[quote author=726C63626F726974060 link=1554742714/0#1 date=1554745373][quote author=67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 link=1554742714/0#0 date=1554742714]https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/
 



Well, jog, like I've always said - us "leftists" are not for open borders.

That's a fox "news" talking point.

Pay attention.[/quote]


That is what is referred to as 'craw fishin'.  You are crawling back while fishing at the same time.  Can't build a wall, don't separate the kids, let them in if they apply for asylum, American is build on diversity.

Best regards,[/quote]

Well pro golfer, if you think that's the case - then go back and show me where I said I'm in favor of open borders.

Bernie is calling for an overhaul of our immigration policy.  

Open borders are a fallacy created on the right to use as a fear tactic.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by LostArtist on 04/08/19 at 13:20:56

I'd be inclined to look at why Bernie might be wrong on this a bit more:

Open borders would make Americans richer, not poorer

https://www.vox.com/2015/7/29/9048401/bernie-sanders-open-borders

" — the idea that all people are created equal, and deserve to be treated as though their lives matter regardless of their place of birth — entails supporting open borders."  

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by thumperclone on 04/08/19 at 15:50:51


617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:
https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/
 

ALL Texans are right wing nut jobs
is the same difference as saying lefty heads explode
try an original thought...



Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by LostArtist on 04/08/19 at 16:38:03


4C504D55485D4A5B5457565D380 wrote:
[quote author=617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 link=1554742714/0#0 date=1554742714]https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/
 

ALL Texans are right wing nut jobs
is the same difference as saying lefty heads explode
try an original thought...


[/quote]

original thoughts don't come from Hot Air.....  

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by pg on 04/08/19 at 16:47:36


647A757479647F62100 wrote:
[quote author=7661676B6474060 link=1554742714/0#2 date=1554748800][quote author=726C63626F726974060 link=1554742714/0#1 date=1554745373][quote author=67787E7964635262526A78743F0D0 link=1554742714/0#0 date=1554742714]https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/08/cant-open-borders-well-poor-people-world-coming-says-bernie-sanders/
 



Well, jog, like I've always said - us "leftists" are not for open borders.

That's a fox "news" talking point.

Pay attention.[/quote]


That is what is referred to as 'craw fishin'.  You are crawling back while fishing at the same time.  Can't build a wall, don't separate the kids, let them in if they apply for asylum, American is build on diversity.

Best regards,[/quote]

Well pro golfer, if you think that's the case - then go back and show me where I said I'm in favor of open borders.

Bernie is calling for an overhaul of our immigration policy.  

Open borders are a fallacy created on the right to use as a fear tactic.
[/quote]


There you go, adjust those goals.....  It went from us leftist as in plural to yourself.  we have 12M people here, nearly 1 in 10 people from Mexico are in the US illegally and you won't acknowledge we have a problem.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/08/19 at 17:40:13


5047414D4252200 wrote:
There you go, adjust those goals.....  It went from us leftist as in plural to yourself.  we have 12M people here, nearly 1 in 10 people from Mexico are in the US illegally and you won't acknowledge we have a problem.

Best regards,


I've never said we didn't have a problem - maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

We definitely have a problem.  Thus my mention of immigration reform.  Duh.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by pg on 04/10/19 at 05:56:46


233D32333E233825570 wrote:
[quote author=5047414D4252200 link=1554742714/0#7 date=1554767256]

There you go, adjust those goals.....  It went from us leftist as in plural to yourself.  we have 12M people here, nearly 1 in 10 people from Mexico are in the US illegally and you won't acknowledge we have a problem.

Best regards,


I've never said we didn't have a problem - maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

We definitely have a problem.  Thus my mention of immigration reform.  Duh.
[/quote]


You only mentioned immigration reform because your homeboy Bearnie changed his tune.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/10/19 at 07:10:19


3F282E222D3D4F0 wrote:
[quote author=233D32333E233825570 link=1554742714/0#8 date=1554770413][quote author=5047414D4252200 link=1554742714/0#7 date=1554767256]

There you go, adjust those goals.....  It went from us leftist as in plural to yourself.  we have 12M people here, nearly 1 in 10 people from Mexico are in the US illegally and you won't acknowledge we have a problem.

Best regards,


I've never said we didn't have a problem - maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

We definitely have a problem.  Thus my mention of immigration reform.  Duh.
[/quote]


You only mentioned immigration reform because your homeboy Bearnie changed his tune.  

How did Bernie change his tune?  Please elaborate.

Best regards,[/quote]

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by pg on 04/10/19 at 18:56:44


495758595449524F3D0 wrote:
[quote author=3F282E222D3D4F0 link=1554742714/0#9 date=1554901006][quote author=233D32333E233825570 link=1554742714/0#8 date=1554770413][quote author=5047414D4252200 link=1554742714/0#7 date=1554767256]

There you go, adjust those goals.....  It went from us leftist as in plural to yourself.  we have 12M people here, nearly 1 in 10 people from Mexico are in the US illegally and you won't acknowledge we have a problem.

Best regards,


I've never said we didn't have a problem - maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

We definitely have a problem.  Thus my mention of immigration reform.  Duh.
[/quote]


You only mentioned immigration reform because your homeboy Bearnie changed his tune.  

How did Bernie change his tune?  Please elaborate.

Best regards,[/quote]
[/quote]


He doesn't support Trump's wall or ICE.....

Best regards,

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by oldNslow on 04/10/19 at 19:26:42


Quote:
I've never said we didn't have a problem ...

We definitely have a problem ...  


Indeed we do. But the real problem is that no one in Washington, not the Democrats, not the Republicans, not even Trump, have a fuc*ing clue how to solve this "problem" while at the same time pandering to their various ideological constituencies. Which they will not stop doing - ever.

This isn't getting fixed. Might as well get used to it and plan accordingly.

Fixing things isn't what our government does.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/11/19 at 05:36:55


6E797F737C6C1E0 wrote:
He doesn't support Trump's wall or ICE.....

Best regards,



Did he ever support the wall or how ICE operates currently?
Bernie has never "changed his tune".

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by WebsterMark on 04/11/19 at 05:59:13

Saying Dems aren't in favor of open borders is like saying the Dems aren't in favor of high taxes. The positions they take have consequences. The socialistic society they want to force on everyone cost billions if not trillions which requires high taxes. Likewise, the fake outrage over the treatment of children at the border and their solutions (along with friendly judge rulings) results in what are from is practical point of view, open borders.

When you detain 92,000 trying to sneak across the border (and I thought I read 53,000 of these were in a "family" unit) .....you have a crisis.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/11/19 at 07:46:17


5F6D6A7B7C6D7A45697A63080 wrote:
Saying Dems aren't in favor of open borders is like saying the Dems aren't in favor of high taxes.

Well mark, if it's so obvious - show us all how "dems want open borders".  It should be pretty easy, huh?

The positions they take have consequences. The socialistic society they want to force on everyone cost billions if not trillions which requires high taxes.

Look where our spending goes now.  How many $3000.00 hammers does our military really need?

Likewise, the fake outrage over the treatment of children at the border and their solutions (along with friendly judge rulings) results in what are from is practical point of view, open borders.

So, there weren't kids in cages?

When you detain 92,000 trying to sneak across the border (and I thought I read 53,000 of these were in a "family" unit) .....you have a crisis.


You seem to miss the point that those 92,000 were apprehended - you know, didn't get by.  You also seem to be unaware that this number is actually lower when you look at stats from 2000 on.


Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by LostArtist on 04/11/19 at 08:11:38


0D3F38292E3F28173B28315A0 wrote:
Saying Dems aren't in favor of open borders is like saying the Dems aren't in favor of high taxes. The positions they take have consequences. The socialistic society they want to force on everyone cost billions if not trillions which requires high taxes. Likewise, the fake outrage over the treatment of children at the border and their solutions (along with friendly judge rulings) results in what are from is practical point of view, open borders.

When you detain 92,000 trying to sneak across the border (and I thought I read 53,000 of these were in a "family" unit) .....you have a crisis.



Dems aren't in favor of high taxes, not on me...  

I hate whiney lil b itches complaining oh no!!! I make so much money I can live comfortably and pay taxes.... but no yacht!!!!  wahh wahh....   greed

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by WebsterMark on 04/11/19 at 08:49:49

You seem to miss the point that those 92,000 were apprehended - you know, didn't get by.

I get the point completely. The quote below was written on April 9th. Note what it says, since March 19, 11,000 released and expected to show up in immigration court. How many do?

Hastings said that since March 19, Border Patrol has released more than 11,000 non-criminal family members. He said biometrics are taken on the adults, a criminal background check is performed, and, if clean, they are provided with a travel document and served with a notice to appear in immigration court.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by WebsterMark on 04/11/19 at 08:51:40

I hate whiney lil b itches complaining oh no!!! I make so much money I can live comfortably and pay taxes.... but no yacht!!!!  wahh wahh....   greed

Gee, I'm glad you're trying to be more polite Lost....

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/11/19 at 09:29:25


0B393E2F28392E113D2E375C0 wrote:
You seem to miss the point that those 92,000 were apprehended - you know, didn't get by.

I get the point completely. The quote below was written on April 9th. Note what it says, since March 19, 11,000 released and expected to show up in immigration court. How many do?

Hastings said that since March 19, Border Patrol has released more than 11,000 non-criminal family members. He said biometrics are taken on the adults, a criminal background check is performed, and, if clean, they are provided with a travel document and served with a notice to appear in immigration court.


I don't know mark - how many do?

What I do know is that we need comprehensive immigration reform - you know, like Bernie has been talking about for years.  We don't want open borders.  We need reform.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by WebsterMark on 04/11/19 at 10:22:22

We need reform

What does reform look like?

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by LostArtist on 04/11/19 at 12:50:59


556760717667704F637069020 wrote:
I hate whiney lil b itches complaining oh no!!! I make so much money I can live comfortably and pay taxes.... but no yacht!!!!  wahh wahh....   greed

Gee, I'm glad you're trying to be more polite Lost....


you've got a whole thread about how violent us liberals are.....  I think there's a word for you...  MNSprings, can you help me out here man???  it's your favorite word....

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by pg on 04/11/19 at 14:44:18


534D42434E534855270 wrote:
[quote author=6E797F737C6C1E0 link=1554742714/0#11 date=1554947804]

He doesn't support Trump's wall or ICE.....

Best regards,



Did he ever support the wall or how ICE operates currently?
Bernie has never "changed his tune".[/quote]


He voted for the Dream act in 2010.

In 2005, Bernie voted against the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Act, which would have allowed the Secretary of Homeland Security to “take all appropriate actions” to maintain control over the U.S borders.

In 2006 he voted against the Secure Fence Act, which aimed to build a fence along the Mexican border.

Later that year, Bernie voted against the Immigration Law Enforcement Act, which would have given local police departments free reign “to investigate, identify, arrest, detail, or transfer to federal custody” any undocumented immigrants.

Sure looks like he wants open borders to me.

Best regards,



Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/11/19 at 14:50:18


697E78747B6B190 wrote:
[quote author=534D42434E534855270 link=1554742714/0#13 date=1554986215][quote author=6E797F737C6C1E0 link=1554742714/0#11 date=1554947804]

He doesn't support Trump's wall or ICE.....

Best regards,



Did he ever support the wall or how ICE operates currently?
Bernie has never "changed his tune".[/quote]


He voted for the Dream act in 2010.

In 2005, Bernie voted against the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Act, which would have allowed the Secretary of Homeland Security to “take all appropriate actions” to maintain control over the U.S borders.

In 2006 he voted against the Secure Fence Act, which aimed to build a fence along the Mexican border.

Later that year, Bernie voted against the Immigration Law Enforcement Act, which would have given local police departments free reign “to investigate, identify, arrest, detail, or transfer to federal custody” any undocumented immigrants.

Sure looks like he wants open borders to me.

Best regards,
[/quote]

Not to me.

His official Platform on immigration (and if you'd like more, I'll be happy to provide it):

Most undocumented immigrants who are in the country now would receive a path to citizenship under Sanders’ immigration plan. He voted for the 2013 Senate immigration bill that proposed a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, doubling the number of border patrol officers, and providing an additional 350 miles of border fencing. (That bill did not become law.)

Sanders would like to restructure ICE. But he has not given details and has not gone so far as to say that he thinks the agency should be “abolished,” a position some of his 2020 Democratic rivals have taken.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by raydawg on 04/11/19 at 14:54:05


544345494656240 wrote:
[quote author=534D42434E534855270 link=1554742714/0#13 date=1554986215][quote author=6E797F737C6C1E0 link=1554742714/0#11 date=1554947804]

He doesn't support Trump's wall or ICE.....

Best regards,


Did he ever support the wall or how ICE operates currently?
Bernie has never "changed his tune".[/quote]


He voted for the Dream act in 2010.

In 2005, Bernie voted against the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Act, which would have allowed the Secretary of Homeland Security to “take all appropriate actions” to maintain control over the U.S borders.

In 2006 he voted against the Secure Fence Act, which aimed to build a fence along the Mexican border.

Later that year, Bernie voted against the Immigration Law Enforcement Act, which would have given local police departments free reign “to investigate, identify, arrest, detail, or transfer to federal custody” any undocumented immigrants.

Sure looks like he wants open borders to me.

Best regards,


[/quote]

Once again Eegore - you've got the right answer/response.

Title: Re: Lefty heads explode
Post by T And T Garage on 04/11/19 at 14:58:34


10031B06031505620 wrote:
[quote author=544345494656240 link=1554742714/15#22 date=1555019058][quote author=534D42434E534855270 link=1554742714/0#13 date=1554986215][quote author=6E797F737C6C1E0 link=1554742714/0#11 date=1554947804]

He doesn't support Trump's wall or ICE.....

Best regards,


Did he ever support the wall or how ICE operates currently?
Bernie has never "changed his tune".[/quote]


He voted for the Dream act in 2010.

In 2005, Bernie voted against the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Act, which would have allowed the Secretary of Homeland Security to “take all appropriate actions” to maintain control over the U.S borders.

In 2006 he voted against the Secure Fence Act, which aimed to build a fence along the Mexican border.

Later that year, Bernie voted against the Immigration Law Enforcement Act, which would have given local police departments free reign “to investigate, identify, arrest, detail, or transfer to federal custody” any undocumented immigrants.

Sure looks like he wants open borders to me.

Best regards,


[/quote]

Once again Eegore - you've got the right answer/response.
[/quote]

Hey ray - that's not Eegore.

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