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Message started by raydawg on 02/14/19 at 10:53:29

Title: What do you call those who believes their own lies
Post by raydawg on 02/14/19 at 10:53:29

The best answer on Quora

Living in denial! - this is what I'd say. But technically they are called pathalogical liars.

According to reference.com, Pathological liars all frequently lie without any reason for doing so. They do not look at lying as a way to obtain goals and external benefits in the way that most people do. Most people will lie in order to get something that they want without believing their own lies. Pathological liars will lie consistently and continually in large fantastical ways that can make it obvious to others that they are lying. Yet the pathological liar will believe his own lies and recreate his own reality.

Those suffering from narcissistic personality disorders and borderline personality disorders will also believe their own lies but on a more unconscious level. They do not want to be honest with themselves so they will change the way that they think to fit with their lies. Narcissists will often tell themselves and others that everyone loves them even though they do not. They want to believe it and so they say it. Borderline personality disorder sufferers find that their emotions are too intense to handle so they claim that their emotions are facts.


And there you have, honest....I ain't lying  ;D ;) :)

Have a GREAT day everyone  :)

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by raydawg on 02/14/19 at 10:55:42

Just in case anyone wants to look a little deeper at lying.....
Here is a link I found that I like.

https://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/stop-lying-yourself.html

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/19 at 10:57:41


66756D70756373140 wrote:
The best answer on Quora

Living in denial! - this is what I'd say. But technically they are called pathalogical liars.

According to reference.com, Pathological liars all frequently lie without any reason for doing so. They do not look at lying as a way to obtain goals and external benefits in the way that most people do. Most people will lie in order to get something that they want without believing their own lies. Pathological liars will lie consistently and continually in large fantastical ways that can make it obvious to others that they are lying. Yet the pathological liar will believe his own lies and recreate his own reality.

Those suffering from narcissistic personality disorders and borderline personality disorders will also believe their own lies but on a more unconscious level. They do not want to be honest with themselves so they will change the way that they think to fit with their lies. Narcissists will often tell themselves and others that everyone loves them even though they do not. They want to believe it and so they say it. Borderline personality disorder sufferers find that their emotions are too intense to handle so they claim that their emotions are facts.


And there you have, honest....I ain't lying  ;D ;) :)

Have a GREAT day everyone  :)



AKA - the current president of the United States, trump.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/19 at 10:58:43


2F3C24393C2A3A5D0 wrote:
Just in case anyone wants to look a little deeper at lying.....
Here is a link I found that I like.

https://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/stop-lying-yourself.html



Please post this on trump's twitter page.
;D

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by raydawg on 02/14/19 at 11:36:19

Go ahead if it serves you, but I only share this for self reflection, as that's the only thing I coming to understand I really have control over.....THANKS!    :)

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by Serowbot on 02/14/19 at 12:28:46


35263E23263020470 wrote:
I only share this for self reflection

Seriously?... :-?

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/19 at 13:06:34


6A79617C796F7F180 wrote:
Go ahead if it serves you, but I only share this for self reflection, as that's the only thing I coming to understand I really have control over.....THANKS!    :)



Um... OK?    Public self-reflection is a new one on me... but whatever.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by raydawg on 02/14/19 at 13:48:32

Oh I am sorry I confused you guy, not sure how that happened.

Gee, let me try it like this, you post your stuff TT, because you think it might help others, yes?

You believe in its "message", yes?

That is why I post the stuff I do too.......  :)

I have found it helpful, useful, in my own life/understanding, sorta like the "tech" link Versy has on his post.

Hope that cleared it up for you guys  :)


Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by eau de sauvage on 02/14/19 at 14:33:29

What do you call those who believes their own lies...

That's a tricky one, let me think about this for a minute... er ... a Raydawg?

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by raydawg on 02/14/19 at 15:06:43


2A382C2F383E3C590 wrote:
What do you call those who believes their own lies...

That's a tricky one, let me think about this for a minute... er ... a Raydawg?


Every day......  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by thumperclone on 02/14/19 at 15:45:27

whatever gets you through the day ray

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by raydawg on 02/14/19 at 15:50:09


1408150D100512030C0F0E05600 wrote:
whatever gets you through the day ray


thank you sir.....

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/19 at 16:08:29


73607865607666010 wrote:
Oh I am sorry I confused you guy, not sure how that happened.

Gee, let me try it like this, you post your stuff TT, because you think it might help others, yes?

You believe in its "message", yes?

No, not really.  I'm not really here to help anyone - that's what the Cafe and Rubber Side Down are for - IMHO.  I come here to hold up a mirror to the unabashed hypocrisy of the conservative mind.

That is why I post the stuff I do too.......  :)

I have found it helpful, useful, in my own life/understanding, sorta like the "tech" link Versy has on his post.

Hope that cleared it up for you guys  :)


To each their own.  You do you.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by Eegore on 02/14/19 at 16:54:12

"I come here to hold up a mirror to the unabashed hypocrisy of the conservative mind."

 And you don't think that's helping anyone?

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by eau de sauvage on 02/14/19 at 18:43:27


4E6E6C64796E0B0 wrote:
 And you don't think that's helping anyone?


Whether it helps someone or hinders them, that is irrelevant to the disinterested intent that TT said.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by T And T Garage on 02/14/19 at 20:20:33


1030323A2730550 wrote:
"I come here to hold up a mirror to the unabashed hypocrisy of the conservative mind."

 And you don't think that's helping anyone?



If it does, so much the better.  But that's not my main reason for posting.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by batman on 02/15/19 at 12:01:23

I think we need a blend, how about......A republican can turn your wine into water , but you can't make him drink it.        :)

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by raydawg on 02/15/19 at 13:16:50


3F3C29303C3369655D0 wrote:
I think we need a blend, how about......A republican can turn your wine into water , but you can't make him drink it.        :)


Cheers  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by MShipley on 02/19/19 at 10:09:10


4E505F5E534E55483A0 wrote:
[quote author=73607865607666010 link=1550170409/0#7 date=1550180912]Oh I am sorry I confused you guy, not sure how that happened.

Gee, let me try it like this, you post your stuff TT, because you think it might help others, yes?

You believe in its "message", yes?

No, not really.  I'm not really here to help anyone - that's what the Cafe and Rubber Side Down are for - IMHO.  I come here to hold up a mirror to the unabashed hypocrisy of the conservative mind.

That is why I post the stuff I do too.......  :)

I have found it helpful, useful, in my own life/understanding, sorta like the "tech" link Versy has on his post.

Hope that cleared it up for you guys  :)


To each their own.  You do you.[/quote]

This is a good example of the difference between conservative and liberal....conservatives tend to look inward for solutions and liberals look out at everyone else.......... It's really Sad TT.... your above comments reflect your narcissism......Do you really think you are so wise and so perfect that you have a duty to hold up a mirror to everyone else? Perhaps you should look in that mirror sometime.......or maybe ask Ray where he got some of that humility.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by LostArtist on 02/19/19 at 11:08:50


79675C5D4458514D340 wrote:
[quote author=4E505F5E534E55483A0 link=1550170409/0#12 date=1550189309][quote author=73607865607666010 link=1550170409/0#7 date=1550180912]Oh I am sorry I confused you guy, not sure how that happened.

Gee, let me try it like this, you post your stuff TT, because you think it might help others, yes?

You believe in its "message", yes?

No, not really.  I'm not really here to help anyone - that's what the Cafe and Rubber Side Down are for - IMHO.  I come here to hold up a mirror to the unabashed hypocrisy of the conservative mind.

That is why I post the stuff I do too.......  :)

I have found it helpful, useful, in my own life/understanding, sorta like the "tech" link Versy has on his post.

Hope that cleared it up for you guys  :)


To each their own.  You do you.[/quote]

This is a good example of the difference between conservative and liberal....conservatives tend to look inward for solutions and liberals look out at everyone else.......... It's really Sad TT.... your above comments reflect your narcissism......Do you really think you are so wise and so perfect that you have a duty to hold up a mirror to everyone else? Perhaps you should look in that mirror sometime.......or maybe ask Ray where he got some of that humility.
[/quote]



that's way too broad, to say all liberals are like that....   it'd be like saying the difference between conservatives and liberals...   conservatives tend to look OUTWARD for problems and who to attack to fix those problems and liberals look inwards to fix the problems in our society that we have caused through our past ignorances.

who are you to judge TT???  


mirror mirror on the wall.....

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by T And T Garage on 02/19/19 at 15:22:01


6F714A4B524E475B220 wrote:
[quote author=4E505F5E534E55483A0 link=1550170409/0#12 date=1550189309][quote author=73607865607666010 link=1550170409/0#7 date=1550180912]Oh I am sorry I confused you guy, not sure how that happened.

Gee, let me try it like this, you post your stuff TT, because you think it might help others, yes?

You believe in its "message", yes?

No, not really.  I'm not really here to help anyone - that's what the Cafe and Rubber Side Down are for - IMHO.  I come here to hold up a mirror to the unabashed hypocrisy of the conservative mind.

That is why I post the stuff I do too.......  :)

I have found it helpful, useful, in my own life/understanding, sorta like the "tech" link Versy has on his post.

Hope that cleared it up for you guys  :)


To each their own.  You do you.[/quote]

This is a good example of the difference between conservative and liberal....conservatives tend to look inward for solutions and liberals look out at everyone else.......... It's really Sad TT.... your above comments reflect your narcissism......Do you really think you are so wise and so perfect that you have a duty to hold up a mirror to everyone else? Perhaps you should look in that mirror sometime.......or maybe ask Ray where he got some of that humility.
[/quote]

LOL - "conservatives tend to look inward for solutions" - ???  Are you serious?  So... that wall that's going to "protect us" and "make us feel safe", is what - a soul search??  Too funny!

Leave it to a conservative to get it completely backwards.  ;D . The biggest and most used tool of the GOP is fear.  Fear of "the gays", fear of "the socialists", fear of "the war on Christmas", etc....

On the other hand, liberals, like AOC, show us the hypocrisy of those fears.  All they (we) have to do is look and see the fault that is right there in the open.  There is no emergency at the border.  There was no "mass voter fraud".  There is no "war on Christmas".  "The gays" are not trying to indoctrinate you.  Obama wasn't/isn't a Muslim.  The government isn't "coming to get your guns".

Further, if you do indeed look in that mirror, tell me this - How'd that trillion dollar tax break work out for the middle class?  Is Mexico gonna pay for the wall?  Did trump fix healthcare yet?  Didn't trump promise to never play golf during his administration?  What happened to the middle class tax break trump promised right before the mid terms?  How's the deficit doing?  How's the coal industry doing?  And on, and on...

Me holding that mirror doesn't make me narcissistic, it forces you and all of your conservative friends to face the truth - like we "terrible libs" have.  The constant hypocrisy of the GOP is getting tiresome and more predictable by the day.

We democrats have looked in the mirror - we know exactly what's wrong.  The establishment has run its course and now it's time for real change.  People like Bernie, AOC and Beto are the future.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by eau de sauvage on 02/19/19 at 17:27:15


746A515049555C40390 wrote:
This is a good example of the difference between conservative and liberal....conservatives tend to look inward for solutions and liberals look out at everyone else.......... It's really Sad TT.... your above comments reflect your narcissism......Do you really think you are so wise and so perfect that you have a duty to hold up a mirror to everyone else? Perhaps you should look in that mirror sometime.......or maybe ask Ray where he got some of that humility.


I had to go back to reread the thread to see if there's any sense at all in your rambling quasi literate display of fcukwittery. Perhaps you need to go and ratfcuk yourself? $0.02c

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by LostArtist on 02/20/19 at 08:07:11


3D2F3B382F292B4E0 wrote:
[quote author=746A515049555C40390 link=1550170409/15#18 date=1550599750]
This is a good example of the difference between conservative and liberal....conservatives tend to look inward for solutions and liberals look out at everyone else.......... It's really Sad TT.... your above comments reflect your narcissism......Do you really think you are so wise and so perfect that you have a duty to hold up a mirror to everyone else? Perhaps you should look in that mirror sometime.......or maybe ask Ray where he got some of that humility.


I had to go back to reread the thread to see if there's any sense at all in your rambling quasi literate display of fcukwittery. Perhaps you need to go and ratfcuk yourself? $0.02c[/quote]


okay, that may have been a bit much...... (I know I've done worse, but, I'm trying to stop that in myself)

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by MnSpring on 02/20/19 at 11:30:51


6C727D7C716C776A180 wrote:
 The constant hypocrisy of the GOP is getting tiresome and more predictable by the day.

Change that to say:

The constant hypocrisy of Bernie, AOC and Beto, is getting tiresome and more predictable by the day.


When ya gonna send the Bobber ?
Do it soon, before your bosom buddies, Take It Away !

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by T And T Garage on 02/20/19 at 11:56:57


5B784566647F7871160 wrote:
[quote author=6C727D7C716C776A180 link=1550170409/15#20 date=1550618521]  The constant hypocrisy of the GOP is getting tiresome and more predictable by the day.

Change that to say:

The constant hypocrisy of Bernie, AOC and Beto, is getting tiresome and more predictable by the day.


Do you have specific examples of their hypocrisy?

When ya gonna send the Bobber ? - Never.  Stop asking.
Do it soon, before your bosom buddies, Take It Away !
[/quote]
Dream on mn - you may want to be more concerned about your boy trump getting impeached.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by MnSpring on 02/20/19 at 12:22:11


667877767B667D60120 wrote:
Do you have specific examples of their hypocrisy?

WOW, their are times, you can actually be funny !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by T And T Garage on 02/20/19 at 14:23:44


74576A494B50575E390 wrote:
[quote author=667877767B667D60120 link=1550170409/15#24 date=1550692617]Do you have specific examples of their hypocrisy?

WOW, their are times, you can actually be funny !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]


Well, if it's so funny - please share...

Let's see all that hypocrisy from the likes of Bernie, AOC and Beto.

You're the one who brought it up - it's up to you to prove it.

Title: Re: What do you call those who believes their own
Post by raydawg on 02/20/19 at 14:30:05

okay, that may have been a bit much...... (I know I've done worse, but, I'm trying to stop that in myself)

Thank you Lost...... what a awesome post/reply.

I too am TRYING to live up to what I say, AND believe, and be positive in a world that seems to wants to drag me down.
If I can't rise to my OWN expectations, what right do I have over expecting others?

Again, thank you  :)

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