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Message started by pam on 02/05/19 at 15:44:51

Title: Bike wont start
Post by pam on 02/05/19 at 15:44:51

ok, My bike was stored for winter .. the other day it was nice... I went over and had it started .. pushed the choke in and it died .
 now it wont start , it tries to a bit.. i installed the yamaha petcock on it..and has been on there over a year now... no problems... i added feul stabilizer to the gas before I stored it.. but ...I have no idea what could be wrong...  any help appreciated.. Thanks Pam

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by norm92de on 02/05/19 at 16:19:36

Pam,
You did turn on the fuel? Sorry if this sounds patronising.

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by batman on 02/05/19 at 16:33:16

I'd have the battery load tested or at least charge it. If the battery is down it can still crank the motor over ,but the voltage can drop if it goes below 10 volts there won't be any spark at the plug.

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/05/19 at 17:15:22

the other day it was nice... I went over and had it started .. pushed the choke in and it died .

I would have clutched it and ridden off.


Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by wordet11 on 02/06/19 at 07:07:16

I would drain the gas, pull the carb and clean it REALLY well, slap it back on, pour in some fresh gas, fire it up and see how she does.

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by pam on 02/06/19 at 10:11:46

Thanks to all replying... I know it is probably the carb or the plug.I ran the battery down trying to start it.. well almost down, I stopped short not to lose the battery too... charging the battery up.. then I will only see if it will start .. otherwise, I am not mechanically smart enough to be pulling things off of it.. leave that to the experts

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by ohiomoto on 02/06/19 at 11:25:45

Charge the battery and then try again. Don't push the choke in until the bike is properly warmed up.  

Once you have it started, keep the choke out for a few seconds.  Then push it half way in and go for a ride to finish warming it up.  Once you ride for a few minutes you should be able to push the choke all the way in and hold an idle.

NEVER start pulling carbs right away.  Bad idea.  Honestly, people on here want to pull carbs way too often and way too fast.  Get it running and keep it running for a bit, even if you need to use the throttle to keep it going.  If it doesn't clear up, then you may need to go further.

justin_o_guy2 has the right idea:  "I would have clutched it and ridden off."


Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/19 at 12:23:12

Don't let it sit and idle on the sidestand.
Ruins the cam.
Don't sit and rack the throttle.
Blues the pipe something awful.
If you still have the stock Petcock
Put it on prime.
If you run outta gas on prime
You're a pedestrian.

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by pam on 02/06/19 at 13:14:45


736C6A6D70774676467E6C602B190 wrote:
Don't let it sit and idle on the sidestand.
Ruins the cam.
Don't sit and rack the throttle.
Blues the pipe something awful.
If you still have the stock Petcock
Put it on prime.
If you run outta gas on prime
You're a pedestrian.

Justin, I changed the petcock to the raptor.. Well Dave from the forum did for me.. when I first got it..Did great...I put fuel stabilizer in the fuel before I stored it this year..ran the engine gas out of petcock and shut it off.. I had it started but I didnt let it warm up enough..and pushed the choke in..it quit running..now wants to start but wont..

have been charging the battery and I called the shop..he said probaly the carb and I don't know enough to take it apart... only has less than 900 miles on the bike

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by Hiko on 02/06/19 at 14:22:26

Dont know if my experience is relevant but my similar circumstances turned out to be a spark plug not screwed in properly and not making proper contact with the head.  
Had been running fine then it didnt want to start

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by ohiomoto on 02/07/19 at 08:59:51

The bike sat all winter.  It just needs to get the "cobwebs" out of it.  You'll need a strong battery to get it fired up, but it will be fine.  

Do not take it to that shop. Carbs don't get gummed up sitting for just a few months.  Especially if you used stabilizer and ran the fuel low.  But...

The battery would be low over the winter, you didn't run the engine long enough to top it off, and you ran it down further trying to start it again.

So i'm with batman and I'll say "it's probably the battery."   ;)  

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3B382D3438376D61590 wrote:
I'd have the battery load tested or at least charge it. If the battery is down it can still crank the motor over ,but the voltage can drop if it goes below 10 volts there won't be any spark at the plug.

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by batman on 02/07/19 at 16:10:37

Oil tends to run off the cylinder walls when parked over winter, pouring a tiny amount of oil through the sparkplug hole will help lube the rings and walls ( preventing damage) , and help build compression (easier first time starting.)
   Next year after closing the petcock,  drain the carb bowl ,it's open to atmosphere and gas evaporates even at room temperature,  leaving crud behind.

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/07/19 at 16:17:39

had it started but I didnt let it warm up enough..and pushed the choke in..it quit running..now wants to start but wont..

The same carburetor and fuel were allowing it to run.
You shut off the choke and it died.
You used the last of your battery to start it.
You should have ridden off with the choke on and waited until you were five minutes down the road, rolling at speed, and Tried shutting off the choke.
That way you could have felt it falter and pull it back out.

Charge the battery.
Try to start it.
If it's not TRYING to start right away
Before you run it down again

Let it charge.
What we Don't know is
How Old is the battery?
What kinda battery is it?
Low on water?
I seriously doubt your problem is anything other than the battery.
Your carburetor and fuel have been tested.
And it RAN.

Only You know How it RAN.
Don't let it idle on the sidestand.


Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by pam on 02/08/19 at 11:49:14

Justin, Hi sweetie.. Dave from the forum contacted me and said he get with me.. Iam so glad as I trust him 100 Percent over the honda shop...

The battery is only maybe a year old..I had the original in before last winter and installed the other one right before last winter..
I did the petcock change and took out the brass plug..

Dave will be able to tell right away at least some of it..and help me...

I really am grateful you guys help out in so many ways

for the time being will go charge the battery again tommorow and make sure it is fully charged.. I can at least do that   thanks again .. Pam

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/08/19 at 13:22:49

You and I are in complete agreement.
If I had a problem and Dave said he would come to help, I'd be 100% comfortable in believing that problem would be solved.
F.W.I.W., Dave is not the only board member who would give me that comfort.
There are others who have a level of capability that few people have.
I wish I could count myself among them.

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by Dave on 02/08/19 at 17:29:18

You all are making me blush! :-[

I had the luxury of working at a lawn mower shop and 3 different motorcycle dealers before I started college and became an engineer.....and my spare time has always been spent tinkering with engines of some sort.

I know that God blessed me with good mentors and the ability to learn some of this stuff on my own, and  I am happy to help out when I can.

Dave



Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by pam on 02/12/19 at 16:34:22


5F64697E6F63787E656D607F0C0 wrote:
You all are making me blush! :-[

I had the luxury of working at a lawn mower shop and 3 different motorcycle dealers before I started college and became an engineer.....and my spare time has always been spent tinkering with engines of some sort.

I know that God blessed me with good mentors and the ability to learn some of this stuff on my own, and  I am happy to help out when I can.

Dave
 When the weather is better, do you think you could just look at it for me, Please... Thanks Pam

Title: Re: Bike wont start
Post by Dave on 02/13/19 at 04:23:04


6B7A76781B0 wrote:
[quote author=5F64697E6F63787E656D607F0C0 link=1549410291/15#15 date=1549675758]
 When the weather is better, do you think you could just look at it for me, Please... Thanks Pam
[/quote]

In my email message to you I said I would - I was about 1,000 miles away from you all last week, and this week I need to catch up on my "day job" work, and get my little Ninja sold to the fellow who is buying it.

It will likely be next week before I can help.....there isn't any decent riding weather in the immediate forecast and our riding season really doesn't begin for a more than a month from now - so a week delay should not be a problem.

We can use my email address to make the arrangements.

Dave

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