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Message started by T And T Garage on 12/21/18 at 14:00:16

Title: A Bear?
Post by T And T Garage on 12/21/18 at 14:00:16

Market, that is.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/wall-street-suffers-worst-week-211832776.html

So, trumpsters. Since you seem to attribute the rise of the stock market to trump, then - y'all gonna own this 'worst week in a decade'?

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by Serowbot on 12/21/18 at 14:27:08

401k's are now 301k's... :-?

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by T And T Garage on 12/21/18 at 14:29:36

5442554850454853270 wrote:

401k's are now 301k's... :-?

I know - thank goodness my financial guy told me to move more to bonds...

But still... ouch!

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by Eegore on 12/21/18 at 14:36:01

"So, trumpsters. Since you seem to attribute the rise of the stock market to trump, then - y'all gonna own this 'worst week in a decade'? "

No.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by oldNslow on 12/21/18 at 15:24:16

The Fed Chairman owns it.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/21/18 at 15:42:01

trumonomics owns it

he uses Regans' play book

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/18 at 13:34:47

I said before he was elected that the federal reserve could wreck what he was accomplishing by raising interest rates. Just a conversation in that direction is enough to scare investors.

And look at what Trump said.
Right again.

President Trump has been proven right after warning America's rich that voting for Democrats in the 2018 midterms would crash U.S. stock markets.

The president took to Twitter on October 31 to warn: "The Stock Market is up massively since the Election, but is now taking a little pause – people want to see what happens with the Midterms. If you want your Stocks to go down, I strongly suggest voting Democrat. They like the Venezuela financial model, High Taxes & Open Borders! Maybe it's time to rebrand the Democrats as the party of the rich."

Many progressive Democrats have been cheering for an American economic disaster, if it would politically undermine Donald Trump's populist support. The host of Politically Incorrect, Bill Maher, who has am over $100 million net worth, passionately stated in June:

I think one way to get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. So please bring on a recession. Sorry if it hurts people, but its either root for a recession or lose your democracy.

Maher seems to be getting his wish since the November 6 elections. The Standard & Poor's 500 stock index led by Silicon Valley tech giant shares is down 10.6 percent in the month for the worst December plunge since 1931 during the Great Depression.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/trumped_warned_that_a_democrat_win_would_crash_the_market.html#ixzz5aS0soM45
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Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/22/18 at 13:42:50

undermine his 40% and sinking populist vote??
blame it on everybody but trump he can do no wrong
time to wake up and smell the stink of a golf course developer with no morals
if this gets him out all the better

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/18 at 14:31:18

Imagine my shock that FACTS would be invisible to lefties.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/22/18 at 14:33:43

6B747275686F5E6E5E66747833010 wrote:

Imagine my shock that FACTS would be invisible to lefties.

show the "FACTS"

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/18 at 14:42:26

Thanks for proving my point.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/18 at 15:35:38

oking the market.
US crude benchmark West Texas Intermediate (WTI) fell nearly 1 percent to $45.32 a barrel, also marking a fresh low since it dropped to its weakest in more than a year on Tuesday. At the same time, Brent crude oil futures lost 2.3 percent, trading at $52.92 before slightly recovering.

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The oil market turned negative less than a day after stocks continued heading down on Thursday, with the Dow Jones losing nearly 2 percent and tumbling below 23,000 points, its lowest close since October 2017.

The S&P 500 and Nasdaq tech indices were also down more than 1.5 percent as of Thursday closing time.

The market rout came in apparent reaction to the Fed’s hiking of interest rates by a quarter-point for the fourth time this year to a range of 2.25 percent to 2.50 percent.

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What’s behind the crash in crude?
The move came despite repeated criticism from US President Donald Trump, who warned Fed chairman Jerome Powell against the raise. The US president earlier stressed that the rate hike would only damage the US economy.

It's not hard to understand that the market responds to federal reserve policy.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by MnSpring on 12/22/18 at 15:47:32

160A170F120710010E0D0C07620 wrote:

show the "FACTS"

They Have been shown to you,
and the other UL’s
Time After, Time, After Time, After Time, After Time, After Time, After Time.
You (and the rest of the UL’s) do not see them,
because you Choose, to Not see them.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/22/18 at 21:10:36

The facts are clear and obvious.
On display for all.
Pretending that is not true is a very lefty ideology.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/23/18 at 08:21:06

3A252324393E0F3F0F37252962500 wrote:

The facts are clear and obvious.
On display for all.
Pretending that is not true is a very lefty ideology.

nice dodge citing FACTS then not quoting any
rightwingnut job tactics

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/23/18 at 11:09:13

The market rout came in apparent reaction to the Fed’s hiking of interest rates by a quarter-point for the fourth time this year to a range of 2.25 percent to 2.50 percent.

Apparent and obvious.

Did you people not understand WHY interest rates were so low for years?
Corporations NEED money. The lower the interest rate, the Cheaper it is to borrow. As I stated before Trump took office, if the uniparty wants to destroy Trump, raise rates. Everything his policies gained US would be lost.
Also, as interest rates climb, the Cost of servicing the Debt goes up. A 1.5 % increase doesn't sound like much, but spread across Twenty Frikken TRILLYUN
dollars, it's a YUGE chunk of money.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/23/18 at 11:29:35

I disagree
rates are raised to keep inflation in check not destroy your boy donnie

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/23/18 at 11:40:03

Inflation? Where?
Prices have not been running up.
A trip to the store costs about the same.
Gas isn't going outta sight.
Show us the data that would justify a bump in rates.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/23/18 at 11:50:56

2017 inflation was 2.13%
2018 rate is 2.28%
the fed is comfortable at 2%
the low unemployment rate indicates wages MAY rise as employers wrangle for workers
higher wages translate to higher prices = inflation

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/23/18 at 12:41:57

You're not gonna fix.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/23/18 at 13:51:27

3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:

You're not gonna fix.

??????
explain please :-?

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/23/18 at 15:02:44

243B3D3A2720112111293B377C4E0 wrote:

Read it truly trying to understand instead of pretending you're fully aware of WHY the run up in interest rates.
I've lived through inflation. I was paying 18% on my mortgage. I know what an overheated economy looks like. We're in the infant steps of recovery. Not time to say
The market is strong enough to absorb the hike.
This is political maneuvering, not sound economic policy.

What do you see that is inflationary?
Don't you DARE say wages, because staunchly DENIED wages are going up.
People who are unable to have a savings plan Need increased wages and are starting to see that, but You have denied it at every turn. You can say increased wages cause inflation, and it's true enough, although that is not True until they are sufficient to create a condition of
Too many dollars chasing an unchanged number of goods and services.
Or maybe you missed it when Ray asked what would happen if the government just put a million dollars in everyone's checking account.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/23/18 at 15:45:31

I was born in the 50s
there is no need to talk down of my experiences as if you are the only one to remember the hard times and good ones past
I don't agree with your view of the fed or any of your beliefs for that matter

btw I didn't DARE say wages were going up reread what I posted and quit being so arrogant as if your sh1t doesn't stink...

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/23/18 at 18:48:47

So you admit that our economy today is not overheated and in need of cooling off using raised interest rates to accomplish that, since you've experienced what that looks like.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/23/18 at 19:55:58

centrifugal governor... [smiley=wink.gif]

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/23/18 at 20:15:53

Overloaded lefty brain has nothing to say.
You're an ignorant and unreachable problem for the future of America.
You're ignorant And arrogant.
You're a FUKKING IDIOT.

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by thumperclone on 12/23/18 at 20:44:26

you always resort to such vile when you realize you are wrong

a centrifugal governor keeps an engine from over revs
in topic the fed keeps the economy from over heating

your juvenile responses betrays your true mental capacity

I am done with you and your despicable nature

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by MnSpring on 12/24/18 at 10:11:06

322E332B362334252A292823460 wrote:

you always resort to such vile when you realize you are wrong

Is this why, you have not responded with your POV ?
And not given any response to:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1545150522/45#49
(Post 49)

And given no response to the question:
“Who was responsible for that, ‘Brainwashing' ?"
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1544590277/60#70
(Post 70)
Except for:
“…mn do you ever have a cognizant thought of your own?? …”

I wonder if someone has told you to say:
“…thumperclone wrote on 12/21/18 at 05:24:56:
insult? you can’t debate without being crass? …”

Title: Re: A Bear?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/18 at 14:45:17

Lefty brain

I'm getting MYASS handed to me!
I'll pretend I really know the answer but refuse to share it, because Now that I've frustrated the guy and he slapped me, I can feign righteous indignation and just ignore it now.

You can NOT justify the increased rates at this time. There is no overheating.
FFS, pick a side
Trump accomplished nothing with his policies
Or
Trump has taken America into a spot where the economy is about to boil over,
So
Hit the brakes.
Yeah, people who demand you see how wrong you are are
Despicable.