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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 12/13/18 at 06:57:47

Title: Smart people made it better
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/13/18 at 06:57:47

Castro, Chavez, and 'bad luck': Glenn Reynolds
Castro and his ilk showed us that under socialism, the powerful grow rich — and everyone else grows poor.
GLENN HARLAN REYNOLDS | USA TODAY
Updated 11:03 a.m. CST Nov. 27, 2016

Robert Heinlein once wrote:

Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.em

This is known as “bad luck.”

I thought about this statement this weekend, reading two news stories. The first was about the tide of Venezuelans taking to boats to escape Venezuela’s economic collapse. As The New York Times reported, “Venezuela was once one of Latin America’s richest countries, flush with oil wealth that attracted immigrants from places as varied as Europe and the Middle East."

"But after President Hugo Chávez vowed to break the country’s economic elite and redistribute wealth to the poor, the rich and middle class fled to more welcoming countries in droves, creating what demographers describe as Venezuela’s first diaspora.”

Now, in their absence, things have gotten worse, and it’s poorer Venezuelans — the very ones that Chavez’s revolution was allegedly intended to help — who are starving. Many are even taking to boats, echoing, as the Times notes, “an image so symbolic of the perilous journeys to escape Cuba or Haiti — but not oil-rich Venezuela.”

Title: Re: Smart people made it better
Post by WebsterMark on 12/13/18 at 07:02:13

Is this what's essentially happening in California?

Title: Re: Smart people made it better
Post by MnSpring on 12/13/18 at 07:31:31

122027363120370824372E450 wrote:

Is this what's essentially happening in California?

It is my opinion that,
it is one of the things happening in Calf.

Just wondering why, the people who lost EVERYTHING in the fires,
(I personalty know someone from Paradise Calf)
Have a harder time getting help, food, water, shelter, healthcare.
than the Illegals sneaking across the border.

Title: Re: Smart people made it better
Post by verslagen1 on 12/13/18 at 08:58:37

0A291437352E2920470 wrote:

[quote author=122027363120370824372E450 link=1544713067/0#1 date=1544713333]Is this what's essentially happening in California?

Title: Re: Smart people made it better
Post by MnSpring on 12/13/18 at 09:39:29

554651504F4244464D12230 wrote:

Those people are rich land owners. ::)

"...14.1% of the population for whom poverty status is determined in Paradise, CA (3,636 out of 25,873 people) live below the poverty line, a number that is approximately the same as the national average of 14%....The median property value in Paradise, CA is $200,900 and the homeownership rate is 70.5..."

"...The median property value in Malibu, CA is $1.8M, and the homeownership rate is 70.6%...."

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/paradise-ca/

Title: Re: Smart people made it better
Post by Eegore on 12/13/18 at 11:48:21

"Just wondering why, the people who lost EVERYTHING in the fires,
(I personalty know someone from Paradise Calf)
Have a harder time getting help, food, water, shelter, healthcare.
than the Illegals sneaking across the border."

What is considered "harder time" for this evaluation?

A specific timeframe per person or a time/money investment during a span of time?

Are there medical centers that are refusing to provide medical care to Paradise CL landowners?

Is FEMA providing shelter/food/water to Illegals, or is it state run programs?

My understanding is that specifically FEMA is having issue providing an efficient level of assistance to Paradise CA, but FEMA is not responsible for providing care to Illegal Immigrants. Is it possible that Paradise CA landowners are having a harder time because they are not asking for assistance from the same state run programs that provide care to Illegal Immigrants?