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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 11/17/18 at 18:08:35

Title: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/17/18 at 18:08:35

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/despite-john-kerrys-carnival-barking-us-leads-global-community-in-reductions-in-co2-emissions/

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/17/18 at 21:49:57

It's as true as *you* need it to be.

The Gateway Pundit is a far-right fake news website. It was founded after the 2004 United States presidential election, according to its founder, Jim Hoft, to "speak the truth" and to "expose the wickedness of the left". It came to prominence in 2016 for its favorable coverage of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, and was later granted press credentials in the Trump White House. The website is known for publishing falsehoods and spreading hoaxes.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit



By this measure, the United States produced more than double the emissions of China and eight times more than India. The United States has a long way to go to bring per capita emissions in line with China and India, yet Pruitt twists this metric to make it seem as if the United States is not such a big emitter of CO2.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/23/epa-administrator-scott-pruitts-claim-the-u-s-is-leading-the-world-in-c02-footprint-reductions

I wonder what FiFi will have to say about all this.

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/17/18 at 22:06:58

You're an a55hole.
NOW bot can run in and wag a finger at me.

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/17/18 at 22:15:51


Despite this John Kerry told reporters “people are going to die” because of Trump’s decision to pull out of the Paris agreement.
Wrong again, John!

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/17/18 at 22:20:51

second positive note in the numbers is that the U.S. continues to lead the world in reducing carbon dioxide emissions. In 2015, U.S. carbon dioxide emissions fell by 145 million tons, by far the largest decline of any country in the world. In comparison, Russia was in 2nd place with a decline of 64 million tons from 2014. On the other end of the spectrum was India, which led the world with a 112 million ton increase in carbon dioxide emissions from 2014. China, which has now spent a decade as the world's leading emitt


https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2016/06/19/the-u-s-leads-all-countries-in-lowering-carbon-dioxide-emissions/#1a6800915f48



Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/17/18 at 22:53:05

1. There was no first positive note.

2. You're quoting from a time when Obama was in charge when the Paris Climate Agreement was in force, when the alternative energy supplements were policy. All you're doing is praising Obama. FFS man get a grip. Trump has reversed all that.

Fact is that by installing Pruitt, (now that he's sacked is back lobbying for the coal industry) was another example of Trump putting the fox in charge of protecting the hens. He immediately set about making America a more dangerous place with regards to pollution. He just works for the greedy polluters. Not dissimilar to putting De Vos in charge of Education, that's another Billionaire whose main interest is 'for profit' schools.

There's no gloss you can put on this, Trump has gone against the rest of the world and sent a message that the wealthiest nation on Earth couldn't give a fcuk about leadership, or commitment.

Look you can go back to reading your tinfoil hat loopy right wing nut job news sites and if that's what you need to feel good about supporting Trump then good for you buddy.

Title: JoG scores and Own Goal. Or maybe a pwnd goal!
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/17/18 at 23:11:29

Let's just clarify here JoG, Trump wants to reverse all of Obama's achievements as a matter of principle. One of those achievements was his reduction of greenhouse emissions and so you quote a June 2016 Forbes report that confirms this and you apparently claim this is A Good Thing.

Have you become some sort of 'lefty, snowflake'?

So what is your opinion about Trump's policies reversing all the emission reduction gains. Not only that but of course it boosted jobs and innovation in the solar energy market. All this has been reversed under Trump.

Looks like you've scored an own goal here.

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by WebsterMark on 11/18/18 at 05:40:14

I would carve Trump into Mt Rushmore right now for pulling out of that Paris Shakedown Agreement. Only Trump has the courage, patriotism and frankly the brass ones to stand up to the crowd and say screw that.

It would have accomplished nothing. This climate change industry has made a lot of jobs, made some people wealthy, some very famous, but there's been no material change in any facet of human life. None. The real increased temp over the past 50 years is a ridiculously tiny. There are 1000 things more important right now than the manufactured global warming crisis. None of us can point to a single measurable metric we've seen change in our lifetime.

In fact, just this week one of those evil climate denier website caught a major error on yet another sea-level rise scam and they had to retract another doom and gloom prediction.

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/18/18 at 06:31:37

Nothing they feared has happened.
Talk about selling fear..

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/18/18 at 07:18:42

quote
You're an a55hole.

proof again the dark hates the light

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by MnSpring on 11/18/18 at 07:39:50


66746063747270150 wrote:
2. You're quoting from a time when Obama was in charge  

Must have been a different web sight,
because the One I saw.
Right up front.
Right on top of the graph,
it said:
Also in 2017 the US led all nations in reducing CO2 Emissions.



Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/18/18 at 10:06:07


54774A696B70777E190 wrote:
[quote author=66746063747270150 link=1542506915/0#5 date=1542523985]
2. You're quoting from a time when Obama was in charge  

Must have been a different web sight,
because the One I saw.
Right up front.
Right on top of the graph,
it said:
Also in 2017 the US led all nations in reducing CO2 Emissions.


[/quote]
before trumpy started pulling the epas' teeth

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/18/18 at 10:22:38

Well, what's changed?
It happened. Without a Paris accord.
So, SINCE it is true,
And it was done without the absolute raping America would have suffered IF Trump hadn't walked away from the Paris accord, then what?
Has anyone else paid attention to what a failure that stupid Paris thing has been?
I'm curious to know what role the epa had in changing our co2 output.
I'm also not a believer in co2 being a problem.
And the people who Are Certain of it have been making claims as to the dire consequences in our immediate future for over TWENTY YEARS, and
NOT ONE THING YOU ARE SCARED OF HAS HAPPENED.

The fear merchants have millions of terrified Americans just anxious to screw themselves to stop the nonexistent monster.

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/18/18 at 11:08:37


I'm curious to know what role the epa had in changing our co2 output.
I'm also not a believer in co2 being a problem.

if its not a problem close yourself in the garage with you car running
let me know how that turns out for you



Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by MnSpring on 11/18/18 at 11:47:13


6A766B736E7B6C7D7271707B1E0 wrote:
if its not a problem close yourself in the garage with you car running   let me know how that turns out for you

Sure in a confined space, Just like Ice (fish) House heaters.
the, ’non vented’ ones have all sorts of Warnings, all over them, stating they are Not to be used in a ’Non Vented’ space.

I believe a different analogy would be.
What happens to you, how do you feel,
when go into a ‘greenhouse/ Arboretum,  
full of plants and flowers ?

Don’t know, perhaps some feel sick.
I, like others, feel refreshed.
(simply because it is not as much as the car in garage, or a non vented heater in a fish hose)
Kinna like a chocolate bar, tastes good, but ya don't eat 5 pounds a day.

As to “before trumpy started pulling the epas’ teeth"

This is the EPA that is looking out for, you ?
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/us/colorado-epa-mine-river-spill/index.html
And basically said, ‘Oops’
Or perhaps this:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/9/wyo-rancher-facing-20m-epa-fines-claims-victory/

I believe, Trump, simply Reined In the Overpaid, Arrogant, and believing that they were UN-touchable, employees.





Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/18/18 at 11:58:56


7754694A4853545D3A0 wrote:
[quote author=6A766B736E7B6C7D7271707B1E0 link=1542506915/0#13 date=1542568117]if its not a problem close yourself in the garage with you car running   let me know how that turns out for you

Sure in a confined space,

our atmosphere is confined/limited
unless you are one of those flat earth believers

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/18/18 at 16:36:35


273B263E233621303F3C3D36530 wrote:
I'm curious to know what role the epa had in changing our co2 output.
I'm also not a believer in co2 being a problem.

if its not a problem close yourself in the garage with you car running
let me know how that turns out for you


You're suchadumbshitt.
Don't know the difference between CO2 and carbon monoxide?
No wonder you believe what the fear mongers are selling.
GeeZUSS, what a doofus!!!

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/18/18 at 17:13:22


7B646265787F4E7E4E76646823110 wrote:
[quote author=273B263E233621303F3C3D36530 link=1542506915/0#13 date=1542568117]
I'm curious to know what role the epa had in changing our co2 out


You're suchadumbshitt.
Don't know the difference between CO2 and carbon monoxide?
No wonder you believe what the fear mongers are selling.
GeeZUSS, what a doofus!!!
[/quote]
best you can do is call me names??
your personal attacks reek of  a school yard bully tatic
btw
where does the carbon monoxide go?

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/18/18 at 17:22:08

You're not going to get away with that.

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/18/18 at 17:23:35


4B574A524F5A4D5C5350515A3F0 wrote:
I'm curious to know what role the epa had in changing our co2 output.
I'm also not a believer in co2 being a problem.

if its not a problem close yourself in the garage with you car running
let me know how that turns out for you


Now you want to pretend you're talking about CO1?
Really?



I'm also not a believer in co2 being a problem.

if its not a problem close yourself in the garage with you car running
let me know how that turns out for you.

You're a bigger liar than I have words to describe.

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/18/18 at 18:10:44

what lie?

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/18/18 at 18:11:02

what lie?

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/18/18 at 19:36:00


697568706D786F7E717273781D0 wrote:
[quote author=7B646265787F4E7E4E76646823110 link=1542506915/15#16 date=1542587795][quote author=273B263E233621303F3C3D36530 link=1542506915/0#13 date=1542568117]
I'm curious to know what role the epa had in changing our co2 out


You're suchadumbshitt.
Don't know the difference between CO2 and carbon monoxide?
No wonder you believe what the fear mongers are selling.
GeeZUSS, what a doofus!!!
[/quote]
best you can do is call me names??
your personal attacks reek of  a school yard bully tatic
btw
where does the carbon monoxide go?[/quote]


The lie is pretending to not have been corrected.
You're
Intellectually dishonest..
In a very deep way.
You absolutely demonstrated that you don't know the difference between carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide.

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/19/18 at 04:13:20

see if I got this straight
15 min after my post you respond
1 min later your next post calls me a liar because I didn't respond quick enough"pretending I wasn't corrected"

jog
you are the all seeing
smartest person to walk the planet
anyone who has a different view point  is a dumba$$
I grovel at your feet and beg forgivness for ever doubting your superior intellect

please lord jog accept my plea and forgive me for I am truly not worthy of you

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by MnSpring on 11/19/18 at 07:03:32


4D514C54495C4B5A5556575C390 wrote:
"...smartest person to walk the planet
anyone who has a different view point  is a dumba$$..."

WOW sounds JUST  like what tt/eds say over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over and over, and over, andoverandoverandover.


Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by thumperclone on 11/19/18 at 07:25:44

truth bothers you?

Title: Re: Is it true?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/19/18 at 09:21:13


3428352D302532232C2F2E25400 wrote:
see if I got this straight
15 min after my post you respond
1 min later your next post calls me a liar because I didn't respond quick enough"pretending I wasn't corrected"

jog
you are the all seeing
smartest person to walk the planet
anyone who has a different view point  is a dumba$$
I grovel at your feet and beg forgivness for ever doubting your superior intellect

please lord jog accept my plea and forgive me for I am truly not worthy of you



Instead of acting like a child about it, own it. You ACTUALLY didn't know what you were talking about. You ACTUALLY believe that carbon monoxide, which the car spews, is what the global warming freaks are freaking out about.
That's Why you buy into the Bullshit.
But CO2 is PUMPED INTO greenhouses to keep the plants flourishing.

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