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Message started by Art on 09/04/18 at 19:48:02

Title: Electrical issue
Post by Art on 09/04/18 at 19:48:02

First off, hello! I hope this hasn’t been covered or is easy to find on here but here’s my problem.
I just bought my first bike. It’s a 2006 s40. Had it jumped and it ran fine. I replaced the battery to get it to start but that didn’t work. Instead, the top fuse blows every time I plug in the rectifier. All the wires look ok. The indicators turn on but are solid, same with the hazards. I don’t get a neutral light either. Last detail is when I hit the starter the lights turn off and I get nothing. Easy fix?
Anything helps! Thanks!!!

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by verslagen1 on 09/04/18 at 21:37:57

welcome art.
lights off when you push the starter button is right for an '06.
But not coming back after is another issue.
I think your flasher maybe bad or that's where the short is.
I'd 1st check your generator wire (the yellow ones) shouldn't be any grounded.
how did you jump it to get it started?

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 09/05/18 at 06:43:12

Just for giggles, I'd check the diodes of the regulator/rectifier.

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by batman on 09/05/18 at 08:16:44

The rectifier leads run behind the front belt drive pulley and are held in place by a clip ,if it missing/bent/loose, the wires could be dragging on the pulley and grounded.

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by Art on 09/05/18 at 11:56:18

Awesome places to start! Thank you guys!!
When I push the starter, lights off, but only while pressing.
I used ohms on all the leads on rectifier, all were reading even around 630.
I’m going to try these places tonight after work. Again, I REALLY appreciate the help!

Ps.
Climber manual is in the mail[ch128077][ch127995]

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 09/05/18 at 12:02:04

714244300 wrote:

I used ohms on all the leads on rectifier, all were reading even around 630.

Ohms reading doesn't matter much. What matters is that the current path is only in one direction. Use the diode check on the multimeter.

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by batman on 09/05/18 at 14:23:16

Art if your testing for ohms the bike should not be running , ohm meter set onRx10 , test the yellow leads coming from the alternator .outaside left to middle, outside right to middle ,and outside to outside .you should have very low resistance on all 3 reading if the continuity is good, and infinite resistance on any one of the reading if it's bad (I don't know how you came up with 630 ,it should more like 1 or 2 on the scale choosen.)
If you want to check the output you need to change the meter to the 150 volt setting ,(be careful because output is AC volts)do the 3 tests as above, but you'll have to have the motor running and raise the rpm to about 5000 to get a reading each time ,output should be at least 100 volts AC each time.
A quick check of the regulator ,would be to check the voltage across your battery while bike is off, (a good fully charged battery should have a voltage a bit higher than 12v (12,3-12.7) then start the bike and check again the voltage reading should be higher (13.3 -13.7) is typical .

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 09/06/18 at 04:50:03

This is the diode test I was referring too. This is copied from a DRZ site on thumpertalk.

Regulator / Rectifier testing - remove the R/R from the bike. You can test the internal rectifier diodes. Put your digital meter on diode check and follow the meter test instructions. Check red wire to yellows wires then reverse the test leads. You will get no continuity one way and about .5 volt drop fwd continuity the other. Now repeat the test black wire to yellows. You should get the opposite results for no continuity and fwd continuity with a .5 volt drop.

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by Art on 09/06/18 at 05:46:24

I’m running! Are you guys ready for the most ridiculous reason ever? I hope someone else will see this and avoid the embarrassment of asking.

So, I decided to pull the new battery out and make sure it wasn’t crushing anything in there. Then I noticed the problem. Looking top down at the battery, I see +====-
Oreiley sold me the wrong battery!! I was so excited to get it started that I didn’t realize when I put it in that the signes were switched! I honestly can’t remember the last time that many expletives came out of me.

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by batman on 09/06/18 at 06:04:54

Don't feel bad,your not the first .

Title: Re: Electrical issue
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 09/06/18 at 12:38:12

I'll bet you never connect a battery cable again without looking at the battery and make sure red is positive.