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Message started by TTom on 08/23/18 at 16:28:52

Title: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/23/18 at 16:28:52

Hey everyone,

I started noticing yesterday that my 2013’s turn signals take about 3 to 5 seconds to start flashing. Everything is stock. When they do flash, it’s a lot slower than normal with occasional hesitation. Same happens when I use the hazard switch. I opened the turn signal switch and I couldn’t see any corrosion and was fairly clean , though I didn’t take the whole thing apart. Anyone familiar with this problem or maybe have a troubleshooting suggestion?

Thanks!
Trevor

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by GOF on 08/23/18 at 17:08:48

Did you put a volt meter on it to see if it was charging?y

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/23/18 at 18:13:45

4A424B0D0 wrote:

Did you put a volt meter on it to see if it was charging?y

I don’t have a voltmeter so no, haven’t tried that. I commute to work on this daily, have a relatively new battery and so far it fires right up. Not sure why that would impact the speed of my flashers though.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by verslagen1 on 08/23/18 at 20:13:20

it could be resistance in the connector.
try polishing up the bulb and go from there.

dielectric grease in all the connectors can't hurt.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/23/18 at 23:16:25

I look at grounds when stuff starts misbehaving.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by Dave on 08/24/18 at 04:26:23

Or - there is the possibility that the mechanical flasher is going bad and needs to be replaced.

Solid state flasher units can be installed....some have found one that is a "pug and play" for the Suzuki unit.

The flasher unit is under the tank, on the right side of the upper frame tube, it has 2 wires and is mounted in a rubber sleeve.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/24/18 at 08:03:42

Thanks for all the replies guys. I'll looks into everyone's suggestions.

I did find and pulled the flasher unit under the tank and everything looked real clean with no corrosion. When I pulled it the lights stayed on ( no flashing), when I replaced no change to the sluggish performance. At around $43 for a new unit online, I may give that a try.

Also will pick up some dielectric grease for some of the connections.

Can anyone point me to a diagram or the like where I would check the grounds for such a problem?

Thanks,
Trevor

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/24/18 at 09:03:57

Other, much less expensive, flashers fit.
You don't have a reason to spend a dime yet.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 08/24/18 at 09:17:39

I have a version of this unit on all three of my bikes. Works with LED and incandescent bulbs. If this doesn't look like an exact fit, look at the other units (second link). For less than $10 you'll fix the existing condition, and will be future-ready for an LED upgrade.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/flashers-load-resistors/electronic-led-flasher-relays-for-motorcycle/787/842/

https://www.superbrightleds.com/cat/flashers-load-resistors/?view=standard

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/24/18 at 12:00:38

Thanks Gary,That's a much better price. Will be checking for corrosion in the sockets this weekend.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/24/18 at 14:09:03

Is the horn good?
Headlight?
If you have emergency flashers, check them.
You might get it isolated to a switch or ground.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by batman on 08/24/18 at 14:10:47

I've been using a round flasher for a car for years, and even runs with my led turn signals .

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/24/18 at 14:11:35

If both sides are slow, then forget about bulbs and oxidation on contacts.
Unless you can believe all four are equally screwed up.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/24/18 at 19:01:19

283731362B2C1D2D1D25373B70420 wrote:

Is the horn good?
Headlight?
If you have emergency flashers, check them.
You might get it isolated to a switch or ground.

Justin,
Yes, all bulbs are real slow to start and blink slower after they get going front and back, turn signal (left and right) and hazards alike. Headlight and horn do continue working, though I did have a loose harness on the left side that did cause the headlight and horn to stop working a few months back. That hasn’t been a problem as of late, though I suppose maybe could be a cause.

I haven’t had a chance today but will look at all the connections tomorrow. I wasn’t sure if having an issue with one bulb could throw the whole system off or not.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/25/18 at 03:41:46

13 Replies and no one has mentioned the blinker fluid yet!

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by Dave on 08/25/18 at 03:57:52

IF you pull the flasher and the lights stay on.....I believe that indicates you have a short somewhere.

The power for the turn signals comes through the flasher relay and the circuit is open - until you move a switch that makes the circuit complete to the turn signals on one side of the bike (or both when you use the emergency flasher switch on the 2004 and later bikes). The power for the turn signals comes through the flasher unit and powers the turn signals ON/OFF as the flasher relay works.

Your turn signals lights should not be getting any power if you pull the flasher relay. Something is providing power to the lights on the other side of the flasher. I suppose it is possible that one of the front running lamp/turn signal bulbs has burned out a filament and is backfeeding some power to the turn signal circuit....check to make sure both front running lamps are working.

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Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/25/18 at 05:47:21

61736764737577120 wrote:

13 Replies and no one has mentioned the blinker fluid yet!

I bought some, but have yet to locate the reservoir for it >:(

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/25/18 at 06:10:22

1B202D3A2B273C3A2129243B480 wrote:

Dave,
I just checked this morning and the running lights are on and steady. Headlight working as it should.

Oddly enough, the problem went away this morning (everything flashing steadily as they should and no hesitation to start). I didn't turn over the bike, just turned the ignition on.

I first noticed the slow to start blinkers when I was on a 2 hour round trip this past Thursday. Odd they should be flashing normally after the bike's been sitting for over a day.

I'll keep an eye on things and report back.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by batman on 08/25/18 at 16:04:33

Just guessing , but problems like these that appear /disappear generally stem from loose/dirty connectors , I'd be rechecking the large one again (that you had trouble with before) and using wire ties to be sure it stays together.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/26/18 at 07:17:30

I agree, going to pull the connector and do some cleaning and hopefully that'll be that.

Title: Re: Turn signals started flashing very slowly
Post by TTom on 08/29/18 at 16:03:40

6862666C676E6A633D3B3F0F0 wrote:

Gary,

Thanks just got my new switch installed from superbrights and so far it seems to have done the trick. I’ll keep my eyes on it though. I’m surprised though that mine wore out so fast.

Thanks to everyone who chimed in to help me diagnose this!

Best,
Trevor