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Title: Pimps....??? Post by raydawg on 08/11/18 at 22:40:36 Look at this article. Consider the fuss immigration is causing now.... Seems the Democrats have used it before, however. Read it. If you find any discrepancies, please share them, with references, thanks. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/10/obama-pelosi-are-traitors-to-hispanics-cuban-american-journalist-running-for-congress-says.html |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by faffi on 08/12/18 at 01:51:06 That may very well be true, and if it is, of course not OK. However, there is not a politician alive that hasn't broken a plethora of promises, so there is nothing new there. Take whichever former President and you can dig up any number of issues. For me, the worst of Obama's broken promises was not shutting down Guantanamo. I still regard him as one of the most honest, well meaning Presidents you have had, but due to his party being in minority, he couldn't really accomplish much of what he set out to. Some think that is good, others think it is sad. |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 08:29:11 4C5F475A5F49593E0 wrote:
Discrepancies? Well, the article is an opinion piece from Maria Elvira Salazar. She can call Obama and the dems 'traitors" all day. That doesn't make it true. |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by raydawg on 08/12/18 at 08:59:24 7E606F6E637E65780A0 wrote:
Discrepancies? Well, the article is an opinion piece from Maria Elvira Salazar. She can call Obama and the dems 'traitors" all day. That doesn't make it true. [/quote] Ah, not sure why you didn’t go after and debunk the “facts” she used to reach her opine. You use your opinion to call Jog a racist, so, I guess that, by your own testimony, doesn’t make it true.... But whatever you need to do to cope, feel good, etc, is solely yours. |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by raydawg on 08/12/18 at 09:05:52 6760676768010 wrote:
Interesting, you want to elaborate on why his race kept him from achieving or honoring his promises? I have shared I voted for him, first go round, because of his race, hoping that he would have the ability to address many of the problems that seemed to exacerbate race issues. I found it was a wasted vote, as he used his race as a excuse, and you example this, by saying his race kept him from achieving his promises. |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 09:31:15 594A524F4A5C4C2B0 wrote:
Discrepancies? Well, the article is an opinion piece from Maria Elvira Salazar. She can call Obama and the dems 'traitors" all day. That doesn't make it true. [/quote] Ah, not sure why you didn’t go after and debunk the “facts” she used to reach her opine. Because ray, it's subjective. Have you forgotten what you yourself posted about opinions? You use your opinion to call Jog a racist, so, I guess that, by your own testimony, doesn’t make it true.... That's not my opinion. He made a racist statement. He called Obama a "porch black person". That is racist. But whatever you need to do to cope, feel good, etc, is solely yours.[/quote] Yes, it is. I'm very happy with my posting of facts, etc. |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/18 at 11:11:38 Yes, in anger, out of frustration, ONE MOTHERFUKKING TIME, I said something I regretted. Now fukkoff. You, OTOH, spent three days being an not a very nice person. Good for you. I'm supposed to just forget what you did and act like you're someone who CAN be honestly debated after such a shitshow? |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by faffi on 08/12/18 at 11:30:58 6B78607D786E7E190 wrote:
Where was there anything about his race? I said his party, meaning the Democrats. With the Republicans in control of both houses, and doing what they could to prevent Obama and his administration from doing what they desired, there was little chance of running a coherent policy. One sort of ends up with mild chaos and incoherent governing. We see a similar situation today, with the Democrats doing what they can to prevent Trump and his administration to run the country the way they want. Again, whether this is good or bad depend on your own agenda and preferences. |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 11:33:19 7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
Calm down jog - you're going to hurt yourself even more.... |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by raydawg on 08/12/18 at 13:07:11 292E2929264F0 wrote:
Where was there anything about his race? I said his party, meaning the Democrats. With the Republicans in control of both houses, and doing what they could to prevent Obama and his administration from doing what they desired, there was little chance of running a coherent policy. One sort of ends up with mild chaos and incoherent governing. We see a similar situation today, with the Democrats doing what they can to prevent Trump and his administration to run the country the way they want. Again, whether this is good or bad depend on your own agenda and preferences. [/quote] Sure enough..... I missed that, not sure why.....???? ;D Sorta like how you state HIS party was in minority, WHICH is a wrong statement by you, AND the main thrust of the Op/ed. Ya wanna read it again? We can start over ;D |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by faffi on 08/12/18 at 13:41:29 5E4D55484D5B4B2C0 wrote:
Would it be OK if we don't? Thanks ;D |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by raydawg on 08/12/18 at 14:20:51 5D5A5D5D523B0 wrote:
Would it be OK if we don't? Thanks ;D[/quote] Sure, I will file you away with TT, since you post like him, and when proven wrong, obfuscate, divert, and pretend otherwise. Again, Obama had a huge majority in his first 2 years, and didn’t even address the issue that he promised within a few months, to do.... Went so far as to say if that deadline passes, surely within the first year... Nope, nada, nut’n honey. But looky here, Folk are critical of Trump because he hasn’t done everything he said he would, and it hasn’t been 2 years yet. I think I see some disengenous reasoning, I do, I do, I do. Or.... Maybe cuz your a foreigner, huh? ;D |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 14:31:06 4A59415C594F5F380 wrote:
Would it be OK if we don't? Thanks ;D[/quote] Sure, I will file you away with TT, since you post like him, and when proven wrong, obfuscate, divert, and pretend otherwise. "File him away"? Seriously ray? So you think you've proven me wrong somewhere? Really? I'd love to see an example.... Again, Obama had a huge majority in his first 2 years, and didn’t even address the issue that he promised within a few months, to do.... Went so far as to say if that deadline passes, surely within the first year... Nope, nada, nut’n honey. But looky here, Folk are critical of Trump because he hasn’t done everything he said he would, and it hasn’t been 2 years yet. I think I see some disengenous reasoning, I do, I do, I do. Or.... Maybe cuz your a foreigner, huh? ;D [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by faffi on 08/12/18 at 14:42:07 Well, Ray, I thought you didn't want to keep going and I played along. Yes, Obama had the opportunity early on to get things done mostly the way he wanted. Regarding the original post, I sort of was done with that when I said a) it was not good (to break a promise) and b) that's what politicians do. Or words to that effect. Personally I see no reason to debate it any further as it was a decade ago, nothing can be done by Obama about it now, it wasn't right and I do not know enough about the details behind it to get into a solid discussion. Then I went a bit off topic and tried to explain why not just Obama, but just about any President, can have difficulties following through on their promises due to the political map. Sometimes, they just cannot be arsed to keep a promise for whatever reason, of course. I do not see where I was critical towards Trump regarding this topic in this thread, though? It would be easy to counter back against the original post with promises Trump have broken, and that would be so this forum, but I made an effort not to. |
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Title: Re: Pimps....??? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/18 at 16:19:25 Trump is opposed by people from both sides. Bubs who are not actually what they pretend to be. Wanna know some names? Look who opposed him when nominated. Look at the liars who voted to ditch Bamicare when they KNEW it would be vetoed. But when it Would pass, their votes changed. Disingenuous jerks exist in all walks of life. |
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