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Message started by thumperclone on 08/11/18 at 13:38:16

Title: troll (thread locked)
Post by thumperclone on 08/11/18 at 13:38:16

one who starts quarrels to distract and sow discord by posting digressive or OFF TOPIC messages to distract from controversial opinions they disagree with.. see also flamers

looks like the ones using the term the most are the in fact  trolls themselves..

Title: Re: troll
Post by raydawg on 08/11/18 at 14:25:48

You trolling?  ;D

OK, let’s ask this question, if I may.....
Not to deflect your post/topic, but to expand upon the gist of it, as in, enlightenment of the usage of this board.

Who/how many, come here for debating and exchanging ideas, as opposed to promoting their rigidly held beliefs.
Not inviting scrunity of their own arguments, ideas, beliefs, but defending, deflecting, obfuscating, faulting others with the same behavior they themselves exhibit?

I believe the ability to answer these questions honestly, will reveal the true nature, failure, or success, of the site.

One final thought/observation.
This electronic communication is ripe with pitfalls, lacking many of the needed elements to have successful dialogue.
Communication is often tough enough “live” engaging others, face to face, depending on topic, environment, etc....
The one great luxury of such however, is squashing misconstrued communications before it “roots” deeply in the other person perception/thoughts.
Just think of how many times in life we have had to “start over” because we, or they, misunderstood something....
I know personally, the number is significant.
However, we were able to rectify it quickly.
I believe that luxury is missing here, and is the root to lots of the dissension.

I once shared of another Internet site, a fishing board, that had a political board, much like this one.
It had many of the same problems and conflicts....
We decided to charter a over night fishing boat, where we were going to spend 24 hours in each other’s company, eating, sleeping, drinking, and fishing together.....
It became a annual event.
30 to 50 guys, having fun, enjoying each other’s company....
The topic of politics rarely arose.
I will leave the reason why, for others to figure out, if they feel the need  ;)


Title: Re: troll
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/18 at 14:46:57


786479617C697E6F606362690C0 wrote:
one who starts quarrels to distract and sow discord by posting digressive or OFF TOPIC messages to distract from controversial opinions they disagree with.. see also flamers

looks like the ones using the term the most are the in fact  trolls themselves..



Anyone who would intentionally misconstrue what someone is saying even after thorough explanation.
See
TT

THere, FIFY

Title: Re: troll
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/18 at 14:53:03


4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote:
[quote author=786479617C697E6F606362690C0 link=1534019896/0#0 date=1534019896]one who starts quarrels to distract and sow discord by posting digressive or OFF TOPIC messages to distract from controversial opinions they disagree with.. see also flamers

looks like the ones using the term the most are the in fact  trolls themselves..



Anyone who would intentionally misconstrue what someone is saying even after thorough explanation.
See
TT

THere, FIFY[/quote]

Whatever helps you live with yourself I guess.

Title: Re: troll
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/18 at 15:02:56

Keep pretending

Title: Re: troll
Post by thumperclone on 08/11/18 at 15:21:05


jog your off topic diversions makes you the biggest troll on the forum
someday you may wake up to this fact, or not

like ive told you for the last 12+ years look in the mirror
better yet review your replies to others topics

for example: "What about Libya?"


Title: Re: troll
Post by Eegore on 08/11/18 at 16:17:21


 I find it easiest to only care about the topic being presented and how I can contribute.  I do not emotionally invest myself in who, how or if anyone responds.  

Title: Re: troll
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/18 at 17:09:53


7D617C64796C7B6A6566676C090 wrote:
jog your off topic diversions makes you the biggest troll on the forum
someday you may wake up to this fact, or not

like ive told you for the last 12+ years look in the mirror
better yet review your replies to others topics

for example: "What about Libya?"

Libya is relevant because it demonstrates without question the size of the lie .
It's impossible to call destroying the country a humanitarian mission.
Yet, Obama did just that, and most Americans accepted that.
It's also noteworthy that Libya was on the list of countries to invade that general Wesley Clarke made public.
Iran is on it, too.
How is it possible that the places we are involved in today, were on a list made public shortly after 9/11?

Obama was just following the policy created Way back then.

And
Finally
Are you saying he Didn't jerk me around, pretending that my posts SHOWING CNN was lying was somehow actually me supporting them?
You can't conflate an attempt to get people to see something with international , willful, misrepresenting what I was saying.
I'm pushing for clarity.
TT intentionally created BULLSHIT.

Title: Re: troll
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/18 at 18:09:00


504F494E53546555655D4F43083A0 wrote:
[quote author=7D617C64796C7B6A6566676C090 link=1534019896/0#5 date=1534026065]
jog your off topic diversions makes you the biggest troll on the forum
someday you may wake up to this fact, or not

like ive told you for the last 12+ years look in the mirror
better yet review your replies to others topics

for example: "What about Libya?"

Libya is relevant because it demonstrates without question the size of the lie .
It's impossible to call destroying the country a humanitarian mission.
Yet, Obama did just that, and most Americans accepted that.
It's also noteworthy that Libya was on the list of countries to invade that general Wesley Clarke made public.
Iran is on it, too.
How is it possible that the places we are involved in today, were on a list made public shortly after 9/11?

Obama was just following the policy created Way back then.

And
Finally
Are you saying he Didn't jerk me around, pretending that my posts SHOWING CNN was lying was somehow actually me supporting them?
You can't conflate an attempt to get people to see something with international , willful, misrepresenting what I was saying.
I'm pushing for clarity.
TT intentionally created BULLSHIT.
[/quote]

Sad.  You seem to be stuck.  Maybe I should be stuck on the fact that you called Obama a "Black porch person"?

You really should find a different coping mechanism - IMO.

Title: Re: troll
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/18 at 20:37:36

seem to be stuck.  Maybe I should be stuck on the fact that you called Obama a "Black porch person"?


But you are.
You've never seen anything like that from me but that one moment when I was pissed off at you and some others.
You, OTOH, worked to prove what you are for three days.

Title: Re: troll
Post by MnSpring on 08/12/18 at 07:44:51


4E505F5E534E55483A0 wrote:
Sad.  You seem to be stuck.  Maybe I should be stuck on the fact that you called Obama a "Black porch person"? You really should find a different coping mechanism - IMO.

Interesting, T&T  just keeps raging on JOG, for something done in the past.

Yet, T&T  clams absolution, of his past,
of calling members here,
Imbecile, Moronic, Stupid, Idiot, Bat $hit Crazy, etc., etc., etc.,


Title: Re: troll
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 08:24:00


657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote:
seem to be stuck.  Maybe I should be stuck on the fact that you called Obama a "Black porch person"?


But you are.
You've never seen anything like that from me but that one moment when I was pissed off at you and some others.

The thing is - you said it.  You meant it.  You can't take it back.  You never apologized.  Even to this day, you're actually trying to blame it on everyone else.

You, OTOH, worked to prove what you are for three days.


Yeah, it happened.  Come to peace with it.

Title: Re: troll
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 08:25:30


62417C5F5D4641482F0 wrote:
[quote author=4E505F5E534E55483A0 link=1534019896/0#8 date=1534036140]Sad.  You seem to be stuck.  Maybe I should be stuck on the fact that you called Obama a "Black porch person"? You really should find a different coping mechanism - IMO.

Interesting, T&T  just keeps raging on JOG, for something done in the past.

And jog does the same to me mn - did you miss that?

Yet, T&T  clams absolution, of his past,
of calling members here,
Imbecile, Moronic, Stupid, Idiot, Bat $hit Crazy, etc., etc., etc.,

[/quote]
Like I told jog - come to peace with it.

Title: Re: troll t
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/18 at 08:44:50

The thing is - you said it.  You meant it.  You can't take it back.  You never apologized.  Even to this day, you're actually trying to blame it on everyone els

No, not really.
I was pissed and I wanted to piss you jerks off. You, OTOH, went to great lengths of intellectual dishonesty for three days to try to accomplish God knows what.
You FINALLY admit that.
Yeehaa.
So, get off the high horse and explain WHY you did it and what your goals were.

Title: Re: troll t
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 09:37:21


584741465B5C6D5D6D55474B00320 wrote:
The thing is - you said it.  You meant it.  You can't take it back.  You never apologized.  Even to this day, you're actually trying to blame it on everyone els

No, not really.
I was pissed and I wanted to piss you jerks off. You, OTOH, went to great lengths of intellectual dishonesty for three days to try to accomplish God knows what.
You FINALLY admit that.
Yeehaa.
So, get off the high horse and explain WHY you did it and what your goals were.


So, no apology from you still.  It's somehow everyone else's fault that you said Obama was a "black porch person".

I, on the other hand, admit that I ticked you off.  Not intentionally or dishonestly, but I'm happy with the result I guess.  :)

Title: Re: troll
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/18 at 10:29:28

Not intentionally or dishonestly, but I'm happy with the result I guess.  Smiley

Seriously?
You UNINTENTIONALLY AND HONESTLY MISUNDERSTOOD that I was showing what liars CNN is , while I STATED that was the purpose of my posts, and repeatedly insisted that by me posting evidence of that fact I was actually supporting CNN?
So, you're going with THAT?
And I never owed YOU an apology.
I said I regretted what I said.
I regretted it Frikken immediately, but I couldn't take it back.
I was frustrated and pissed and wanted to rile you up.
You don't have a very credible explanation for your behavior, unless you are going for the
Too stupid to read
Defense.

Title: Re: troll
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 10:40:27


524D4B4C51566757675F4D410A380 wrote:
Not intentionally or dishonestly, but I'm happy with the result I guess.  Smiley

Seriously?
You UNINTENTIONALLY AND HONESTLY MISUNDERSTOOD that I was showing what liars CNN is , while I STATED that was the purpose of my posts, and repeatedly insisted that by me posting evidence of that fact I was actually supporting CNN?

No jog, that's what you did.  You basically called the entire network fake news - until it supported one of your views.

Just like every other con you probably support - and our president.

So, you're going with THAT?
And I never owed YOU an apology.
I said I regretted what I said.

Regret?  Well goody for you for regretting it...  It showed exactly who you are.  You thought it, and then took the time to type it out.  

I regretted it Frikken immediately, but I couldn't take it back.
I was frustrated and pissed and wanted to rile you up.

And... you still blame others....

You don't have a very credible explanation for your behavior, unless you are going for the
Too stupid to read
Defense.

No, I'm not stupid.  I know who you are and I know what I'm about.

Title: Re: troll
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/18 at 10:53:01

You're so lame.. You're so Frikken lame.

I know what I was saying.
And why wouldn't I?
That guy was caught on camera admitting they were LYING, for ratings.
Why would the lies gain them ratings?
Because they were feeding lefties lies they wanted to hear.
What did I agree with them on?

Title: Re: troll t
Post by faffi on 08/12/18 at 11:13:45


150B040508150E13610 wrote:
I, on the other hand, admit that I ticked you off.  Not intentionally or dishonestly, but I'm happy with the result I guess.  :)



____


;D

Title: Re: troll
Post by faffi on 08/12/18 at 11:19:45


JoG2: You UNINTENTIONALLY AND HONESTLY MISUNDERSTOOD that I was showing what liars CNN is , while I STATED that was the purpose of my posts, and repeatedly insisted that by me posting evidence of that fact I was actually supporting CNN?
So, you're going with THAT?
And I never owed YOU an apology.
I said I regretted what I said.
I regretted it Frikken immediately, but I couldn't take it back.
I was frustrated and pissed and wanted to rile you up.
You don't have a very credible explanation for your behavior, unless you are going for the
Too stupid to read
Defense.




I have tried to grasp what this argument was about, but if I understand this correctly, you feel hurt and feel that you have lost face just because you seemingly supported CNN? Is that all? If that is the case you probably need to lighten up, give it a larf and move on like a grown-up.

If I got this wrong, my apologies for the insinuation.

Title: Re: troll
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/18 at 11:21:55

You gathered THAT?
LMAO..

Title: Re: troll
Post by faffi on 08/12/18 at 11:32:45

Apparently, I got it very wrong. Glad you could laugh about it  [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Title: Re: troll
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 11:36:06


0601060609600 wrote:
Apparently, I got it very wrong. Glad you could laugh about it  [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]



No Faffi - you pretty much got it right.
(and they call me a "snowflake"...?)

Title: Re: troll
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/12/18 at 11:45:42

BULLSHIT, couldn't be more wrong.
Read what I said.
You didn't
Mistakenly believe I was supporting CNN.
That's impossible.
You said I agreed with them.
On what?

Title: Re: troll
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 11:51:46


4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
BULLSHIT, couldn't be more wrong.
Read what I said.
You didn't
Mistakenly believe I was supporting CNN.
That's impossible.
You said I agreed with them.
On what?


This is tedious and going nowhere.  Get over it and move on.

I got the best of you and you can't stand it.

That obviously hurts your ego.  Such is life.

Title: Re: troll
Post by Serowbot on 08/12/18 at 11:52:40

Is this going anywhere that is in anyway constructive?...


Title: Re: troll
Post by T And T Garage on 08/12/18 at 11:53:59


2B3D2A372F3A372C580 wrote:
Is this going anywhere that is in anyway constructive?...


Sadly, no.

My apologies for perpetuating the uselessness.


Title: Re: troll
Post by Serowbot on 08/12/18 at 11:57:15

In that case,... let's lock this up and move on...

See if we can't do better from here on out...

Serow

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