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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 08/09/18 at 16:30:23

Title: Here's the information, E..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/09/18 at 16:30:23

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/08/mismanagement-forests-time-bombs/


Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by eau de sauvage on 08/09/18 at 17:43:00


514E484F52556454645C4E42093B0 wrote:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/08/mismanagement-forests-time-bombs/



Posting idiocy from your weirdo loopy right wing bizarro rags, is pointless. They're just going to repeat Trump's twitter account ALL CAPS bullsh!t

And really that's all you ever do repeat almost verbatim everything that Trumps says.

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by Eegore on 08/09/18 at 17:57:52

 Can you point me to the portion indicating that California, not Oregon has lessened their fire mitigation process from before?  Also that CA is using less mitigation as opposed to poor mitigation.

 I made a direct correlation to Colorado as an example stating that the methods are different, and as much so is funding and resource allocation.  The claim that California, specifically the state of California has done less quantitatively to mitigate fires in a recent timeline than a timeline before, extending approximately 50 years.  I estimate 50 years as you indicated you are over 60.

 The only thing I see in that article related to CA is that the recent fires are possibly due to mismanagement, not global warming.  That comparison is specifically to modern mitigation process and global warming, not modern mitigation being less than past mitigation.

 If the claim was mismanagement and not quantitatively less then I would be more prone to agree as I have seen information from reliable sources about that in the past.

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/09/18 at 20:18:13

Have someone read it for you

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by Eegore on 08/09/18 at 21:09:06

 I guess since there's nothing in the article that indicates California is doing less mitigation as you proposed, the only way to respond is to make casual attempts at berating my character as an employer.  I don't know why this is an issue to you, or at least one you need to keep bringing up.

 I will do one better, if you would like I can have someone read it to both of us over conference call.

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/09/18 at 22:14:21

I already said
Whatever happened,
It's TIME to change things.
Look at what the article says.
Decreased clearing
Increased fire
It's time for the policy makers to quit trying to
Protect Nature
To the extent that they are.
It's CLEARLY time to get aggressive with clearing out dead crap, and thinning.
That's gonna be a lot bigger job than a fire break around the house.

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by T And T Garage on 08/10/18 at 05:04:43


657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote:
I already said
Whatever happened,
It's TIME to change things.
Look at what the article says.
Decreased clearing
Increased fire
It's time for the policy makers to quit trying to
Protect Nature
To the extent that they are.
It's CLEARLY time to get aggressive with clearing out dead crap, and thinning.
That's gonna be a lot bigger job than a fire break around the house.



So, is this statement you made true? :
"Dammifino, but Texas is not on the news. California is. And they Used to proactively clear . That's what needs done. Preventing runaway fires can't cost nearly what waiting for the inevitable raging fire brings."

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by Eegore on 08/10/18 at 05:47:46


 What you said was that CA "Used" to proactively clear.  Are they doing less of that specific thing than they did before, and where did you find this information?  The article, no matter anyone's opinion on who reads it, does not address the claim.

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/18 at 11:27:28

I thought California used to do what was done in other places.
I didn't know they have been stupid that whole time.
It's TIME for them to get active.

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by Eegore on 08/10/18 at 12:26:49


 I agree its time for CA to re-investigate the current methods, the same thing CO has to do.  They do not mitigate the same way as the topography is different, CO for instance has to be very cognizant of burn scars.  I can not say that CA needs to do more, since its not even known if they have done less.  

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by T And T Garage on 08/10/18 at 14:07:20


7C6365627F7849794971636F24160 wrote:
I thought California used to do what was done in other places.
I didn't know they have been stupid that whole time.
It's TIME for them to get active.



Oh.. so you lied.  Shame...

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by MnSpring on 08/10/18 at 16:53:56


786669686578637E0C0 wrote:
Oh.. so you lied.  Shame...

Interesting statement from you.
Several times, you say, ‘you don’t understand my posts’.
Yet, you have responded to them,
(And one in particular, which you have removed)

What would one call that ?


Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/10/18 at 19:26:32

Like I said
He's a
Troll

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/18 at 06:12:45


7C5F624143585F56310 wrote:
[quote author=786669686578637E0C0 link=1533857423/0#10 date=1533935240]Oh.. so you lied.  Shame...

Interesting statement from you.
Several times, you say, ‘you don’t understand my posts’.
Yet, you have responded to them,
(And one in particular, which you have removed)

What would one call that ?

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mn - I'm not sure why you can't understand this, but I'll try again.

When I said I can't understand your posts, I didn't mean ALL your posts, just some of them.

Do you understand now?

(for anyone else reading this - isn't this silly?)

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/18 at 06:18:18


2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
Like I said
He's a
Troll



jog - let's look at the facts, shall we?

Me - 4100 posts
You - 44000 posts

Me - 6 posts a day
You - 11 posts a day

Take these facts as you will and really think about what defines a troll....

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/18 at 06:29:41

Your behavior labeled you.
It's not the number of posts/day.
Only a troll would try that crap.
And I post on the board.
Unlike you.
Gee, why is it you don't help anyone?
When you tried to pretend I was supporting CNN  , you set the tone for how I would treat you. Troll

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/18 at 06:46:31


796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 wrote:
Your behavior labeled you.
It's not the number of posts/day.
Only a troll would try that crap.
And I post on the board.
Unlike you.
Gee, why is it you don't help anyone?
When you tried to pretend I was supporting CNN  , you set the tone for how I would treat you. Troll


Like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night.

But remember to keep this in mind.  You're the one who PM'ed me and basically told me that my point of view was incorrect - that I was "indoctrinated".  In my opinion, that sounds like troll behavior.

Again, that's just a fact - take it for what it's worth.


Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by faffi on 08/11/18 at 12:31:35


746B6D6A7770417141796B672C1E0 wrote:
Troll


Do you hope to make it universally true if you just keep repeating it often enough?

I have not met TT, or you, but I doubt neither of you look like this
http://https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Trollet_som_grunner_p%C3%A5_hvor_gammelt_det_er.jpg



Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/18 at 14:53:00


524C43424F524954260 wrote:
[quote author=796660677A7D4C7C4C74666A21130 link=1533857423/15#15 date=1533994181]Your behavior labeled you.
It's not the number of posts/day.
Only a troll would try that crap.
And I post on the board.
Unlike you.
Gee, why is it you don't help anyone?
When you tried to pretend I was supporting CNN  , you set the tone for how I would treat you. Troll


Like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night.

But remember to keep this in mind.  You're the one who PM'ed me and basically told me that my point of view was incorrect - that I was "indoctrinated".  In my opinion, that sounds like troll behavior.

Again, that's just a fact - take it for what it's worth.

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No, you completely disconnected from reality jerk, YOU SCREWED WITH ME FOR THREE DAYS,  and that was me Trying to get you to stop. You don't shove people until they break your nose and holler
Bully..
Unless it's you,
And then
You wanted rules
.
Laughable

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/18 at 14:55:34


6C7375726F6859695961737F34060 wrote:
No, you completely disconnected from reality jerk, YOU SCREWED WITH ME FOR THREE DAYS,  and that was me Trying to get you to stop. You don't shove people until they break your nose and holler
Bully..
Unless it's you,
And then
You wanted rules
.
Laughable


Keep up the name calling - as ray might say, see how that works out for you.  

Pretty much everything you blame me of, you yourself are guilty of.

All you're doing is making yourself look bad jog.

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/11/18 at 15:00:13

much everything you blame me of, you yourself are guilty of.


Utter Bullshit, you pretended for three days and demanded I explain.
Nobody has ever seen more egregious behavior.
You're a devious creature and you proved it.

Title: Re: Here's the information, E..
Post by T And T Garage on 08/11/18 at 18:12:02


3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:
much everything you blame me of, you yourself are guilty of.


Utter Bullshit, you pretended for three days and demanded I explain.
Nobody has ever seen more egregious behavior.
You're a devious creature and you proved it.


No?  Have you seen your posts of the last 2 weeks?

Egregious?  Look in the mirror jog.

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