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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> By "Working", He Means What? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1533573950 Message started by T And T Garage on 08/06/18 at 09:45:50 |
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Title: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/06/18 at 09:45:50 Donald Trump boasted at his Ohio rally Friday night that his tariffs are a runaway success. One problem: America’s trade deficit jumped 7 percent in June, according to the most recent data. The U.S. trade gap is currently on track to hit a ten-year high, despite a series of tariffs imposed on products and raw materials around the world by the Trump administration. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/us-trade-deficit-jumps-7-percent-in-june_us_5b677dede4b0fd5c73dae40e I wonder if his interpretation of "working" is the same as his interpretation of "winning"? But hey, it's early on with the tariffs - maybe things will change. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by Serowbot on 08/06/18 at 10:37:35 I think by "working",.. he means fooling his supporters... |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by verslagen1 on 08/06/18 at 13:36:18 Does this mean revenue increased by 7%? |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by LostArtist on 08/06/18 at 13:40:23 445740415E5355575C03320 wrote:
no, just means we, as Americans, are buying 7% more things from overseas... you know, not from Americans, but with it being early, American manufacturures haven't really been able to ramp up production for domestic demand, but it doesn't mean that they will though either. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by Eegore on 08/06/18 at 15:10:30 I can't even think of a way that global trade could have real-time indications of large changes. It is way too early to look at numbers and create any accurate model of future results. There will be market changes due to any tariffs, large tariff changes equal more drastic adjustments, then re-adjustment, then years down the road a conclusive result. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/06/18 at 15:21:15 5A7A78706D7A1F0 wrote:
Good points. However, one would think not to tout "success" this early on either. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/06/18 at 15:42:37 Yeah, politicians lie, I get it, but this?: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-trump-falsely-claims-economy-jobs-183130277.html In a tweet Monday, he declares that the economy has "never been better" and jobs are at the "best point in history." In fact, the economy and jobs are nowhere close to historic bests based on several measures. Economists have also warned that U.S. growth is largely fueled by government borrowing, as the federal deficit rises because of his tax cuts, and is thus unlikely to be sustainable after a few quarters. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by faffi on 08/06/18 at 23:26:00 There probably is a conscious mentality behind the lies, but for the life of me I do not understand why the lies. Would it hurt his position if he said things are getting better instead of presenting claims he cannot support? |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/07/18 at 00:55:46 U can keep your doctor The average family will save hundreds Lies |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/07/18 at 05:14:20 637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 wrote:
Yep, those were stupid statements by Obama. They weren't flat out lies, but he should have better represented them. Our current president however - that's a completely different story. He is the king of lies. He lies practically every day. I've only posted two examples. There are literally thousands. Sad. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by Eegore on 08/07/18 at 06:40:54 I don't understand what the value of comparing lies from a previous administration has when nobody has claimed there was honesty to begin with. Professionals in the field addressed in this topic say its too early to tell. That's the same stance that's been around since the 80's, no matter what President says this or that. I have not, and do not plan on getting any President's analysis for the status of the US economy since they simply are not going to have the information that a collective group of people, numbering in the thousands, would have that work in the trade field every day. Thousands of people working 24/7 in global trade have their data analyzed and get X as a result, but this one guy says Y is the result. I'm going to go with that one guy? |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by batman on 08/07/18 at 07:23:30 There's a 40% chance of rain today (but a 60% chance it won't ) With my Brink's Card now I get my pay two days early (Wednesday- so now I can be broke on Friday, instead of Monday ?) Even if you over use your card ,Brink's will give you another $5.00of credit. ( but if you charge $7.50 for lunch at Mickey D's , they charge you an overdraft fee of $35.00 ? . Nothing like the bank making 500% interest on their $7.50 loan for a week). |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/07/18 at 07:51:21 7A5A58504D5A3F0 wrote:
Well put once again Eegore. This is why I added at the end "But hey, it's early on with the tariffs - maybe things will change." My main goal was to showcase the whole "mission accomplished" attitude that so often gets played out with nothing actually being accomplished. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by Eegore on 08/07/18 at 08:10:38 "My main goal was to showcase the whole "mission accomplished" attitude that so often gets played out with nothing actually being accomplished." I see what you are saying. I figure if a President says lets be cautious, wait and see, look at the long term strategy then many people will say look how weak the President is, he's not ambitious enough and a liar. If the president says I've got this, we are changing it up, I have contributed to these changes, this is better for us today. Then the President is impulsive, too quick, and a liar. I figure it comes with the territory. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/07/18 at 08:18:45 7050525A4750350 wrote:
Indeed it does, I'm sure. But our current president's reputation tends to show his unparalleled ability to blatantly lie, and then double down on it. It's getting tough to continue to watch this unfold... |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/07/18 at 13:42:34 His Reputation has been molded and formed by people who hate him. Unlike Lord Bammy, the press has WORKED to create a hostile environment for Trump. His popularity is BETTER than Obama's in SPITE of the concerted effort to destroy Trump. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/07/18 at 13:46:54 647B7D7A6760516151697B773C0E0 wrote:
Only according to rasmussen. And we all know how "balanced" they are. Look at Pew to really see where he is. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/07/18 at 14:00:47 Tweets? You're worried about tweets? Look at Policy decisions and see how many people are benefiting. Look at minority employment rates. You guys glom onto the meaningless and ignore the important. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/07/18 at 14:09:00 405F595E43447545754D5F53182A0 wrote:
I'm not disputing any of the policy decisions. I'm saying that A - they're not his and B - he's an idiot making our country look bad. The economy was on the uptick long before the orange one assumed office. And let's keep it real - the right would be having a field day with a democrat doing 1/4 of what our president's been doing. Impeachment hearings would be happening by now. Deny that, and you're lying to no one but yourself. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/07/18 at 14:52:50 The economy was on the uptick long before the orange one assumed office. It was limping along. Obama MOCKED the idea of bringing jobs back. That's what people who believe something is impossible do. Obama asked How? Magic Wand? Obama was not making near the bold moves that have ignited the economy. But I'm sure if Obama had just two more years we would be seeing the Best minority employment numbers Ever. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/07/18 at 15:03:15 223D3B3C21261727172F3D317A480 wrote:
Yeah, we probably would. It's certainly not the result of the orange nightmare we have now. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by Serowbot on 08/07/18 at 15:27:10 Do you really believe tRump is concerned with minority employment?... tRump who had his apartment managers mark minority applications with a "C"?... Laughable... |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by LostArtist on 08/07/18 at 16:14:01 594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 wrote:
how do you figure Trump's popularity is better???? oh, wait, nevermind, you don't trust polls anyway... so I won't even bother looking them up to show how wrong you are. can I sell you some more sand? I think your head is swelling so you're gonna need more |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/07/18 at 17:38:46 When polls reflect OBSERVED REALITY they are a lot easier to believe. If someone is ignorant of the Magic Wand thing, I've explained it more than once. You lefties can explain it to him It only took five or six times to get HRC through to him. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/07/18 at 18:05:18 2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
"You lefties"? Are you implying that everyone on the left hase the same viewpoint? So I guess that the KKK and the alt-right represent you righties, huh? Some things never change. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/07/18 at 20:33:24 The lefties know what Obama said. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by MnSpring on 08/08/18 at 06:39:38 3C222D2C213C273A480 wrote:
You said about lies Obama Said, over and over, and over, and over, and over, etc. Well it is clear T&T, you really want some of those Ocean Front lots in Iowa ! |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by faffi on 08/08/18 at 07:01:12 The difference may be in the shear volume of lies as well as one stopped repeating a lie the moment it was made clear, the other persist. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/08/18 at 07:18:34 41625F7C7E65626B0C0 wrote:
You said about lies Obama Said, over and over, and over, and over, and over, etc. Lies Obama said? I did what now?... Well it is clear T&T, you really want some of those Ocean Front lots in Iowa ! [/quote] mn - there are no ocean front lots in Iowa. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by verslagen1 on 08/08/18 at 08:39:20 Do you know that Los Angeles was once under water millions of years ago? |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/08/18 at 08:52:49 415245445B5650525906370 wrote:
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/08/18 at 09:36:50 485B4C4D525F595B500F3E0 wrote:
Needs to happen again, soon. |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/08/18 at 09:38:54 5E4147405D5A6B5B6B53414D06340 wrote:
Needs to happen again, soon. [/quote] Wow. Nice attitude. (And to think, people blamed me for "ruining" the TT) |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/15/18 at 15:14:24 726C63626F726974060 wrote:
Still no good news for farmers thanks to these "wonderful" tariffs... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-trade-war-starting-hurt-us-farmers-184608387.html |
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Title: Re: By "Working", He Means What? Post by T And T Garage on 08/15/18 at 15:19:21 574946474A574C51230 wrote:
Still no good news for farmers thanks to these "wonderful" tariffs... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-trade-war-starting-hurt-us-farmers-184608387.html[/quote] And more... http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tariffs-trade-war-causes-150-layoffs-at-chicago-manufacturer-2018-8 |
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