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Message started by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 07:00:16

Title: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 07:00:16

I just watched a video of people egging The Red Hen in Washington DC, followed by the person recording informing them that the restaurant isn't the one that refused to serve Huckabee, in fact they aren't a franchise and the one in Lexington is the one they are looking for.

The people that egged the restaurant claimed that to be untrue even when showed an actual address, and supporting info on a screen that I assumed was a phone. Looking into this further I see a lot of denials even when its documented that the people sending threats are wrong.

Its a common practice for people to send death threats and such these days due to the availability of instant messaging platforms, Yelp etc. and the detachment associated with them. This can be potentially crippling to unaffiliated businesses unfortunately and the physical violence is especially unfortunate.

What I find most unfortunate is that even after someone attacks the wrong establishment (in this case in the thousands) that they refuse in many cases to own up to it. At least when people were going after Megyn Kelly they had the right person.

Short examples:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2018/06/25/read-the-messages-and-threats-sent-to-the-wrong-red-hen/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumpkins-harass-send-death-threats-to-the-wrong-red-hen-after-sarah-huckabee-sanders-flap

http://www.nbc12.com/story/38506350/woman-gets-death-threats-has-same-name-as-red-hen-restaurant-owner

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Serowbot on 06/26/18 at 07:29:11

Trump is egging them on...

Sheeple can be dangerous,.. and we have no cool heads in charge.
Trump and Huckabee are both breaking the law by Tweeting this.
Trump gets a pass as usual because we know he's only a joke President not a real one.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 07:36:41

Can you cite what laws are being broken?

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by LostArtist on 06/26/18 at 08:10:03

5474767E6374110 wrote:

Can you cite what laws are being broken?

here's an article about it:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/sarah-sanders-broke-the-law-with-tweet-on-restaurant-eviction-says-ex-white-house-ethics-chief.html

I'm not sure how serious this all is either way, but yeah, sheeple

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 08:28:41

Its:

5 CFR 2635.702(a)

I'd say its a close call, but a direct violation of how the account is permitted to be used. She should have posted it on a personal account. I find it hard to believe that she would be completely unaware of the backlash associated with any public posting.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by raydawg on 06/26/18 at 08:33:00

Is that you Maxine?

Obama: Go out there and "GET IN THEIR FACE"

Elections have consequences, and so do words.....

Ya wanna raise the decorum, exhibit it your self first.

This stupidity did NOT start with Trump, the intolerant hollywooders and friends had no issues fanning the flames when they thought it only burned righties.

I can recall it going back to Reagan.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 08:51:06

"This stupidity did NOT start with Trump"

Nobody said it did besides you.

It goes back to cavemen pointing and grunting.

I find it most interesting that people will continue the threats even when they have been shown that they are attacking the wrong location/person.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by raydawg on 06/26/18 at 09:04:52

6B4B49415C4B2E0 wrote:

Yes, folks "stubbornness" is primordial.

I recall teaching a apprentice a job.
It required using a certain tool.
He put this tool on backwards.
I instructed him how it goes the other way, and why....

He replied, "I know, but I find it works better this way."

You can't fix that ;D

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by LostArtist on 06/26/18 at 09:06:31

697A627F7A6C7C1B0 wrote:

--------

you're making the argument much broader than the original post. The original post is about a specific event and you're applying whatever your point is with a broad brush about political culture over 40 years, and you're right, both sides have gotten much much more hyperbolic over that time. But what does that have to do with the original post? Are you blaming Eegore of that hyperbolic rhetoric? Clearly he's not using it.

cause this whole thing is about a government official, using a government account, so both of those are important, to spread negative news about a private company.

also I don't think Eegore was there throwing rocks or eggs or whatever at the wrong place, so he is exhibiting a rise in decorum over those people. Eegore isn't endorsing any behavior here, he's just sharing information about people punishing the wrong place and then those same people not owning up to their mistake.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/18 at 09:28:03

You think E is a he?

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by LostArtist on 06/26/18 at 09:54:01

4B545255484F7E4E7E46545813210 wrote:

You think E is a he?

as much as I think you are

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 10:28:14

They have been calling me a girl for months now.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/18 at 11:00:14

Well, I don't know, but a few things I read left me thinking you might be a woman. You've never said, that I can remember. I don't remember what it was that left me thinking you're a woman, but I have.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 11:09:55

At least I don't get that in person.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by LostArtist on 06/26/18 at 11:15:42

6747454D5047220 wrote:

They have been calling me a girl for months now.

at least MNSprings thinks I'm totally someone else...

heck as far as I know everyone on here is the same person who's really bored and looking for an argument about everything

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Serowbot on 06/26/18 at 11:23:58

Eegore can't be a woman...
See?...
http://https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/861810688456626177/I-CFxw6I_400x400.jpg

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by MnSpring on 06/26/18 at 16:07:46

6F4C50576251574A5057230 wrote:

at least MNSprings thinks I'm totally someone else...

Really, exactaly who would that be ?

Saying someone, has a bird whispering in his/her ear,
is NOT, the same as believing in masquerading.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by MnSpring on 06/26/18 at 17:21:23

"... The original post is about a specific event ..."

A-Yep, and it has it been 'reported', by 80% of the, 'Media'.

The 'Rest Of the Story', is:
Where after she left, (she and her party), went to another restaurant, then people, owners?, came to THAT restaurant, stood on the sidewalk, and Heckled.

Gee, get that sign out:
'Only Ultra-Liberals Allowed'.

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 19:50:11

So back on topic I was reading through some messages:

"We are not the same Red Hen restaurant we are not a franchise and are not affiliated in any way with other Red Hen in the country."

"liar you are the same or you couldn't use the same name"

"We are not a franchise the Red Hen name is not a national brand"

"crappity smack you liars you will get strung up like the food you serve"

Unfortunate that one does not understand what a franchise is,

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/26/18 at 23:42:09

Clearly a disenfranchised person

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by MnSpring on 06/27/18 at 09:26:30

So it most certainly wrong, that some people cannot understand the name, ‘Red Hen’ is not a franchise name.

However, Is it any worse that, the, ‘Rest Of The Story’, is NOT, front page news, repeated, pushed in peoples faces ?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/25/sarah-sanders-heckled-by-red-hen-owner-even-after-leaving-mike-huckabee-says.html (at 1.16)

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/25/mike-huckabee-red-hen-owner-followed-sanders-famil/
WOW, what would you call this:
“…Gov. Mike Huckabee alleged Monday that the restaurant owner who refused service to his daughter,…”
“…“The owner of the Red Hen — nobody’s told this — then followed them across the street, called people, and organized a protest yelling and screaming at them from outside the other restaurant and creating this scene,”
…”
“…Ms. Wilkinson has not responded to Mr. Huckabee’s claim that she followed the Sanders family out of the restaurant….”

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/mike-huckabee-red-hen-owner-followed-sarah-sanders-family-across-street-heckled
“…“One of the members of Sarah’s in-laws who were there – by the way, most of her in-laws, not her mother in-law and father in-law, but most of them are very liberal. And, one of them walked out and said: 'Look, I don’t like Trump. I’m not a supporter. I’m a far – considered liberal – but, you guys are embarrassing me and you’re not helping your cause.’” “It was ironic, and he said, ‘Sarah’s not even here; you’re yelling and screaming at somebody who’s not here.’”…”

Title: Re: Interesting Red Hen denials
Post by Eegore on 06/27/18 at 10:33:14

The behavior on both sides is poor. I don't feel its any worse or better however I was intending to convey my interest in accuracy.

Following someone out of a restaurant is poor conduct, but accurate, as you know that person was in that restaurant.

Making threats to people you thought were in that restaurant is poor conduct, but inaccurate.

Being proven inaccurate but still claiming you weren't is interesting.

I don't care who supports who, I only care who is accurate in their assessment and actions.