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Title: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing overseas Post by Eegore on 06/25/18 at 14:39:26 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/harley-davidson-move-some-production-overseas-offset-tariffs-n886231 |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Serowbot on 06/25/18 at 15:23:24 ...but the "Made in America " stickers will still be made in America.... ;D |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Armen on 06/25/18 at 19:05:03 My guess is that they were looking for an excuse to build in Europe to cut down shipping costs, and perhaps local tariffs. They have factories in Brazil, Tailand, and India already. In the 90's I took a tour of the HD factory in York Pa. The tour guide proudly recited that the bikes had been more than 50% foreign made in the dark days of AMF, but now they were over 95% made in USA. Hmm, I thought... The forks and shocks were made by Showa in Japan. The starters by Hitachi in Japan. Carbs, Keihin, Japan. Wheels, Australia. Brake rotors and switch gear, Japan. Pistons, Mahle, Germany. Relays, Bosch, Germany. And so on. Seemed like a lot of parts to only make up 5%, either in quantity, weight, or value. In those days I was still writing for the bike magazines. Asked my bud, the editor how HD could spew such manure and get away with it? Seems they used 'fuzzy math'. Counted the forks as 1 part, counted each bolt on the motor as individual parts. Makes me laugh when people get upset that the bikes aren't 100% American. They haven't been for many decades. |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Ruttly on 06/26/18 at 06:25:58 Assembled in the USA with Global parts Don't forget the wiring harness that's Hecho en Mexico [ch127474][ch127485] It is what it is ! ;D |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by MMRanch on 06/26/18 at 07:10:30 It amazes me : Why anyone would spend $25,000 + on a Gold Wing or those big Harleys :o |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Oldfeller on 06/26/18 at 07:30:25 So they can lose over half the value inside the first year ???? |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 07:31:54 The new Goldwing has an automatic transmission, and some pretty advanced front suspension. I'd hate to forget about that auto trans and blip myself into an intersection. I've always felt Harleys were overpriced. |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by raydawg on 06/26/18 at 07:45:42 I like the loud pipes you must have if you own a harley, the oil spots, and if you own one, you can wear the apparel without being a poser ;D Will they ever shake the hells angels imagine? |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Dave on 06/26/18 at 08:00:43 110311030E1D121F145C0 wrote:
The income and living expenses of the US population has a very wide spread, and for some people $25,000 spent on a new toy is not really a big deal. That amount can easily fit into their discretionary spending budget. The members of this forum tend to be a bit more thrifty in our spending habits, and we sleep in tents when we go on group rides! ;) |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Ruttly on 06/26/18 at 10:05:40 Tent [ch9978][ch65039] |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by oldNslow on 06/26/18 at 10:50:01 6E4E4C44594E2B0 wrote:
Particularly if all you want one for is to tie it to a car and drag it around a parking lot doing some half-as*ed crash bar experiment. |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Eegore on 06/26/18 at 10:54:00 "Particularly if all you want one for is to tie it to a car and drag it around a parking lot doing some half-as*ed crash bar experiment. " It didn't run to begin with. |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Serowbot on 06/26/18 at 13:34:19 The latest?... Donald Trump warns he will tax Harley-Davidson 'like never before' in relocation response https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-warns-tax-harley-155709247.html :-? |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by raydawg on 06/26/18 at 13:40:08 2A3C2B362E3B362D590 wrote:
Wrong board .....please. |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Dave on 06/27/18 at 03:58:39 If Harley moves manufacturing overseas for the EU market but still make the US models in the US - I am not sure that the US can do anything about that. A lot of the parts are already sourced from other countries. Although my brain doesn't like the fact that BMW, KTM and others are having major parts or complete bikes made in India rather than Germany.......I believe the bikes are still being built very well. |
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Title: Re: Harley Davidson moving some manufacturing over Post by Majorfatboy on 06/27/18 at 15:43:17 Weather You like HD or hate'm, it's a shame to see more manufacturing and assembly leaving the US. Heard hundreds of jobs are going away because of this. All We have for US motorbike brands right now (as far as I know), are Harley and Indian, and Indian bikes are pricey as hell, and basically don't even exist on the used market around Me. There's Cleveland cyclewerks, but they're just US-based in name only, their bikes are still Chinese clones in manufacture (nothing wrong with that, but still). |
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