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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/18 at 03:26:14

Title: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/18 at 03:26:14

Got his gun
Didn't shoot

https://wsvn.com/news/local/suspected-walmart-robber-tries-to-carjack-two-different-cars-both-drivers-pull-out-guns/#.WyES6txTQJ8.facebook

https://wsvn.com/news/local/suspected-walmart-robber-tries-to-carjack-two-different-cars-both-drivers-pull-out-guns/#.WyES6txTQJ8.facebook

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Serowbot on 06/16/18 at 08:06:40

Car jacking is down,.. but road rage shootings seem to be on the rise.

Balance... :-?

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by MnSpring on 06/16/18 at 09:26:47

293F28352D38352E5A0 wrote:

Car jacking is down,.. but road rage shootings seem to be on the rise. Balance... :-?

That a Drive by?
Or do have actual, FACT, to support it.

Because I don't know of any, facts, that, "...road rage shootings seem to be on the rise...", being true.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/18 at 16:17:57

Point is
He was ATTACKED
He was BLEEDING
He was ARMED
But he Only backed the aggressor off.

THAT HAPPENED

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/17/18 at 13:56:06

More kids will shoot themselves with their parents guns this year than any amount of carjackers deterred by armed citizens.

More motorcyclists will kill pedestrians this year than carjackers deterred by armed citizens.

We can make comparisons all day and still get nowhere because that tactic wont result in change.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by WebsterMark on 06/17/18 at 18:22:09

How many more teenagers will die texting and driving yet we only talk about taking guns and not cell phones .

You mean comparisons like that?

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/17/18 at 19:37:00

Similar to that.

I'm just saying that we can bring up example after example of articles that support our individual views and those will be countered with opposing views with articles supporting them as well.

It has resulted in nothing more than more links to more articles.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/17/18 at 20:49:31

THE POINT IS
Lefties want to pretend that people who carry are just ITCHING for a chance to shoot.

Remember how blood was gonna run in the streets when state law allowed CC in places that sold booze?

Lefties
Always Wrong
Never in doubt

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/18/18 at 07:53:20

My point is that for every article referenced that is anti lefty there is one with opposing views. Not every lefty in the world believes that all gun owners are looking for a legal way to kill someone and theres a lot of information about that. Theres a lot of lefties that think gun ownership is ok, many think CCW is ok, many think CCW and alcohol is ok.

This article posting exchange gets us nowhere.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/18 at 08:42:20

It's helpful to show the people who believe that CC people are hunting a
Clean Kill moment aren't.
This guy was fending off a potentially life threatening attack and chose not to shoot.
I think it's important for those people to see that.
Just because not EVERY lefty would disarm us, that doesn't mean that those who would are
A: Wrong
And
2: VOCAL

It's important that they SEE they are Wrong

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/18/18 at 09:08:29

Are you sending this information to people who assist in the assembly of legislation reform in your area? How is this information being used to help educate?

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/18 at 11:00:00

That I'm not using the most productive way to spread the message doesn't diminish the truth Of the message.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by LostArtist on 06/18/18 at 12:47:17

46595F5845427343734B59551E2C0 wrote:

That I'm not using the most productive way to spread the message doesn't diminish the truth Of the message.

no, but it does diminish how serious you are actually taking this, and therefor, how serious we should take you.

you act like it's the end of the world that we don't take you so serious about how evil the "lefties" are . and now you know why. You've got a giant chip on your shoulder and an axe to grind with anyone you deem associate a "lefty" . Why should any of them bother talking to you? You'd be happier if they all just killed themselves.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/18 at 13:32:53

no, but it does diminish how serious you are actually taking this, and therefor, how serious we should take you.

Bullshit

Truth is always to be respected.
I do what I do.
Ignore it because I don't do what you Think I should do.

Phht

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/18/18 at 14:35:13

"That I'm not using the most productive way to spread the message doesn't diminish the truth Of the message. "

"no, but it does diminish how serious you are actually taking this, and therefor, how serious we should take you."

I see it similarly. Truth or not, its useless if used in useless ways.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/18/18 at 14:47:43

Why are you here?

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by LostArtist on 06/18/18 at 15:01:33

617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:

in truth, cottage cheese is neither a cottage or can you really call it cheese? isn't it like aborted cheese?

do you eat aborted cheese? bet you even pay money for it... supporting abortion, who'da thunk from you even...

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by LostArtist on 06/18/18 at 15:02:58

697670776A6D5C6C5C64767A31030 wrote:

Why are you here?

why are you? I"m sure there are much more pro-conservative boards that you can go to and get stroked that way... is stroking part of the cottage cheese making process?????

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by MnSpring on 06/19/18 at 06:25:17

1E3E3C34293E5B0 wrote:

“…Not every lefty in the world believes that all gun owners are looking for a legal way to kill someone…”
Nop, not, ALL of them ! Yet a significant amount do.

“…and theres a lot of information about that…”
And that information is about;
Believing gun owners are looking for a way …?
Not, believing gun owners looking for a way…?

“…Theres a lot of lefties that think gun ownership is ok…”
Yep, their even is a Club called; ’The Liberal Gun Club’.
Where if you have the Same gun, with the same accessories, shoot the same ammunition, shoot the same hold, at the same target, at the same distance, you will be welcome to join.

“… many think CCW is ok…”
No doubt. And no doubt many of those are thinking: “I got mine, don’t care if you get one’.

“…many think CCW and alcohol is ok….”
Do you mean:
Alcohol in a setting like a bar/restaurant, where you go in and eat, while Carrying ?
Alcohol, like in a store, where you are carrying, then go in and buy it, then go home to drink it ?
Alcohol, like being Drunk/Tooted/Buzzed/Just a bit, and Carrying ?

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/19/18 at 17:37:33

And that information is about;
Believing gun owners are looking for a way …?
Not, believing gun owners looking for a way…?

Both.

Alcohol in a setting like a bar/restaurant, where you go in and eat, while Carrying ?
Alcohol, like in a store, where you are carrying, then go in and buy it, then go home to drink it ?
Alcohol, like being Drunk/Tooted/Buzzed/Just a bit, and Carrying ?

All three.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by MnSpring on 06/20/18 at 06:15:39

6646444C5146230 wrote:

The phrase: “…Alcohol, like being Drunk/Tooted/Buzzed/Just a bit, and Carrying ?…”
which was one of three possibilities, you answered, “…All three…”

So your opinion (because the original post was talking/referencing, the ‘Lefties’)
Is that ‘Lefties’, believe that: “…Alcohol, like being Drunk/Tooted/Buzzed/Just a bit, and Carrying…” is OK.

Well it is my Opinion, if one is a ‘Lefty’, ‘Righty’, or ANY other kind of Political group, ideology, race, skin, color, etc.
Whether ones Anti or Pro firearm, NRA or ‘Liberal gun club’, member. ETC, ETC. ETC.

It is, NOT all right to be drunk/impaired, and have a loaded firearm, CCW or not. And every place that has a law, has a caveat in that CCW law, that states the % of impairment in the blood. Minn is .08 for driving/boating, if you are carrying, it is .04. (Which means if you sniff, Scotch Tape, you could be in trouble).

And Anybody, that is the least bit familiar with Gun Safety, Knows this.

Again, your statement: “…Theres a lot of lefties that think gun ownership is ok, many think CCW is ok, many think CCW and alcohol is ok. …”
Says you believe the lefties believe ‘ being drunk and carrying, is OK.
It is most certainly/definitely, believed/accepted, is Not.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/20/18 at 16:03:34

"Is that ‘Lefties’, believe that: “…Alcohol, like being Drunk/Tooted/Buzzed/Just a bit, and Carrying…” is OK."

No. I do not think that Lefties, inferring all, or 100% do. I know for a fact that some do, I know these people personally.

I know people who conceal carry, and drink. I know a lot of them.

I know even more who shoot guns at parties and drink. That's just the environment I am in. I haven't seen any reliable surveys of people who define their political stance that also relay their belief in CCW persons looking to kill someone. If you know of somewhere that runs a study like this I would like to look through it.

As far as I can see this conversation isn't about gun safety, but about how the proposal that 100% of Lefties think the same about the topic of legal carry, conceal carry and that all persons who do are trying to kill someone.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by MnSpring on 06/20/18 at 16:37:29

7757555D4057320 wrote:

"Is that ‘Lefties’, believe that: “…Alcohol, like being Drunk/Tooted/Buzzed/Just a bit, and Carrying…” is OK." No. I do not think that Lefties, inferring all, or 100% do. I know for a fact that some do, I know these people personally. I know people who conceal carry, and drink. I know a lot of them. I know even more who shoot guns at parties and drink. That's just the environment I am in. I haven't seen any reliable surveys of people who define their political stance that also relay their belief in CCW persons looking to kill someone. If you know of somewhere that runs a study like this I would like to look through it. As far as I can see this conversation isn't about gun safety, but about how the proposal that 100% of Lefties think the same about the topic of legal carry, conceal carry and that all persons who do are trying to kill someone.

"...I know even more who shoot guns at parties and drink...."
That, IS, all about safety !

No way, ANY, Lefty/Righty, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
That has a brain.
Would even, Think about shooting and being Drunk/Impaired.

If that happens where you are about, as you said,
is their NO ONE, to set them straight ?

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/20/18 at 19:07:52

"That, IS, all about safety "

Yes. I did not state that it wasn't, I said this thread wasn't.

"If that happens where you are about, as you said,
is their NO ONE, to set them straight ?"

Yes.

Again I was under the impression that this thread was about the presented position that 100% of lefties thought 100% of concealed carry persons were looking for a way to kill someone.

I do not believe that, as I have witnessed otherwise. It was not safe.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/20/18 at 20:57:40

Again I was under the impression that this thread was about the presented position that 100% of lefties thought 100% of concealed carry persons were looking for a way to kill someone.

Of COURSE you did

Ignore the obvious

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/21/18 at 00:11:03

Can you explain the obvious for those that don't understand?

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/21/18 at 07:05:58

Prevailing attitude
Not all
Not none

What do you really think it's about?

Or do you pretend someone is saying something stupid
So you can shrug it off?

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by Eegore on 06/21/18 at 14:51:10

I probably mixed this thread with another.

Title: Re: Cut up and bleeding
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/21/18 at 18:07:28

That happens