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Message started by Beggaa on 04/29/18 at 06:43:14

Title: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 04/29/18 at 06:43:14

My left blinker has all of a sudden stuck on. It's an LED so the resister almost burnt the bike down. Any ideas?

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Dave on 04/29/18 at 08:00:21

We really can't track down an electrical issue without being there.....and so little information.

Does anything change with the ignition switch on/off? (The left electrical control where the switch is located shouldn't be getting power if the ignition switch is turned off).

If the issue is occurring with the ignition switch off.....you likely have some bare/pinched/shorted wires somewhere. Have you removed and reinstalled the fuel tank/seat or something where you might have pinched wires?

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 04/29/18 at 08:16:54

with the key off everything is off. turn the key on and the blinker stays on (left) key in park it goes out. At one point everything worked as it should, then one day I noticed the Left directional on, hit the switch, nothing, put the right directional on and it blinked, left stayed on. bike will run like this NOW turn key on and left blinker stays on and right DOESN'T blink when told too. I made the mistake of leaving the bike idleing and smoke came from under the seat. unpinned the seat and took it off and the resister was smoking. fixed all that and nothing has changed.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by batman on 04/29/18 at 08:43:26

I'd be checking your wiring at the turn signal again. be sure you hooked the turn signal to the power coming from the flasher unit(light-green?) and not the (gray?) running light wire that would send constant power to it.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 04/29/18 at 08:52:43

But it all worked at one time for a month , now it's stuck. I guess I'll recheck for short

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by verslagen1 on 04/29/18 at 08:54:04

check the wires running to the headlight.
the hole in the shell is small and there's some flexing there.
I'd replace the flasher with an electronic one and ditch the resisters.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 04/29/18 at 10:28:51

Some here said to replace the flasher. Where would I get one?. ALSO: I'd like to put pics of the bike up, but it says they're too big. I don't know how to shrink the size. MB gigs etc.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 04/29/18 at 10:29:56

I'd like to ditch the resistors

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by IslandRoad on 04/29/18 at 10:49:42

This flasher unit is a straight swap for the stock one - it plugs right in, and mounts in the same spot. I've run both halogen and LED turn signals off this unit.

The link below is to the unit I bought here in Australia, but it'll give you an idea what you're looking for, which is a 2-Pin electronic flasher relay. The specs are listed in the ad.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-Pin-Electronic-LED-Flasher-Relay-FIX-Motorcycle-Turn-Signal-Bulbs-Hyper-Flash/311718643504

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by batman on 04/29/18 at 12:07:57

I guess my question would be what did you do with the wires and connectors that use to power the front running lights? If you just left them inside the headlight they may have shifted over time and contacted the pos. wire going to the turn signal . LED's are polarity sensitive , ( if hook up backward they wont light) there fore you must have a the ground and pos. hooked up correctly , but for the pos . you have a steady feed and I can only think of two sources ,one of the running light wires or the headlight wire itself, and be cross connecting the feed to your turn signal.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 04/29/18 at 16:56:30

Ya, it's a pissa, something changed.you guys are the best. I'll let you know what happened.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Serowbot on 04/29/18 at 17:59:32

In the meantime,... three lefts equal a right... :-?

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Rotorhead on 04/30/18 at 11:14:38

Easy LED flasher swap - I used superbrightLEDs.com LF1-S. Swaps out for the stock, used stock bracket/holder, uses stock plug. Was able to swap it out without removing the tank in about 5 minutes. I have all LEDs so it was a better solution than the inline resistors.

Dumb question - could your signal switch on the handlebar be stuck on?

-RH

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by batman on 04/30/18 at 21:52:52

I've never mentioned this before but along time back I removed all the wiring from my headlight housing ,preferring to wire the turn signals directly . thus running only the three wires needed for the headlight in the housing . To think that the wires inside where protected from weather is wrong ,rain will find it way past the headlight and not drain well with all the wires plugging the opening entrance .The electric system is the weakest link of a motorcycle, and the weakest part of the system is the connectors, the front turn signals have 6 single connectors ,that's 12 wire ends all jammed into the back of the housing, that can loosen or corrode, If I Have a problem I can be sure it's a bad bulb (filament ) rather than a wiring problem .All lighting on my bike is wired in this manner . Major components are still using stock connectors due to the need for testing , but lights are seldom removed ,and could be tested at the bulb socket. Much like switching to a Raptor petcock ,it's better to deal with a problem before it happens ,than as it happens.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 05/01/18 at 03:55:10

I was thinking maybe the switch was stuck. gonna get rid of the resistors then check that out

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/18 at 07:27:56

Power is being sent out of Somewhere to the flasher unit and the bulb.
My first stop would be the switch. Whether it provides the hot or ground, it's a piece of the puzzle.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Dave on 05/01/18 at 09:28:33

342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:

Whether it provides the hot or ground, it's a piece of the puzzle.

The ignition switch sends power directly to the flasher unit.....the wife then goes to the left handlebar switch. When the turn signal switch is moved, the circuit is then completed to either the left or right signals......and a small wire is part of the wiring harness and it carries the power to the indicator panel.

When the left blinker stays on....is it both the front and rear - and does it blink or stay on steady? Is the indicator light on the panel by the speedometer also lit?

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 05/03/18 at 10:46:06

the left front doesn't com on at all. No blinking etc. The left rear is on all the time. The right side works as it should.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 05/04/18 at 03:59:32

the light on the little dash board stays lit.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Dave on 05/04/18 at 04:20:40

So it appears the right side works as it should....so perhaps the switch is functioning OK.

It appears that when you burned up the resistor....somehow you got a power supply to the left front turn signal, and broke the connection to the rear turn signal.....and also the connection to the handlebar switch for the left side.

You need to start tracing wires....testing wires at the connectors, and isolate the source of the power to the left front turn signal....and the broken connection to the left rear. The indicator light on the panel is tied into the wiring for the front turn signals.....so it does light up with the front turn signal as it should.

The only way you can get this resolved is to get a color coded wiring harness, a volt meter.....and start tracing wires to find where things have gone wacky.

The wiring schematic is in the Tech Section....or in the Clymer manual.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 05/10/18 at 04:09:21

Where's the flasher located? I can't find anywhere in the Clymer

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Dave on 05/10/18 at 05:00:32

It is under the tank, on the right side of the upper frame tube near the coil. It is a small black cube mounted with a black rubber strap - it has 2 wires connected to it.

( I believe you can just barely see it if you look in the front of the tank slot as it fits over the frame).

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 05/10/18 at 09:27:00

Thanx, didn't want to take the tank off AGAIN, but ....wtf.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/10/18 at 11:52:15

Once you change your seat mount connectors and learn what tools, and have your
I can set it Here
Spot figured out, it's not such a bummer.

Title: Re: blinker stuck on
Post by Beggaa on 05/14/18 at 04:03:57

All FIXED. The problem was the terminal on the flasher was corroded. I put the new flasher on....nothing......put the old one back....nothing.... used contact cleaner and put the old flasher on.....quick flashing......put the new flasher back on.....Perfect! Who'd have thought? 8-)