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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/18 at 10:59:20

Title: The unpopular and correct position
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/18 at 10:59:20

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/04/11/fix-it-hunter-pollack-brother-of-parkland-victim-calls-out-the-fbi-for-their-messed-up-priorities/

The left and the media, but I repeat myself, ignore this.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by Eegore on 04/11/18 at 11:34:02

Reminds me of the protests at the local college complaining that professors are being laid off while they build a new sports complex.

The funding is allocated by people who do not work for the college, its illegal for them to use sports funds for academic use. All the signs, chanting, social media degradation etc. did nothing to support academics.

The FBI doesn't have a pool of people all trained identically to do the same job. Its not as simple as telling the people who raided Cohen to fly out to Florida and start looking into potential active shooters.

The FBI messed up but they cant just re-prioritize on their own. It will take time and town-hall protests wont be what changes Federal allocation of funds and resources.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/18 at 15:00:40

It's not as if the guy was hiding.
They knew his name.
I could have found him.
Anyone not an absolute idiot could have found him.
They didn't TRY.
The topic shouldn't even Be about guns, but about the promise program, and which people in the F.B.I. dropped the ball and open discussions about Why, after the SRO suggested Cruz be committed, nothing happened.
The FAILURES that occurred I've laid out. The F.B.I. Didn't say
It's a manpower problem.
They admitted that they screwed up.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by Eegore on 04/11/18 at 17:11:22

Nobody has said they didn't admit to screwing up. Ive agreed with you on that multiple times. I will continue to do so each time you bring it up.

In context to the article: They are saying in the article the question is why are they using resources on Cohen instead of resources on guys like Cruz.

I agree with that but I also don't have the delusion that any Federal organization has freedom to just re-allocate resources overnight. Do they really think the FBI under judges orders will say "No we aren't going to Cohen's until we sort out this active shooter thing." ?

Change needs to happen, but comparing issuing of a search/seizure warrant to intelligence gathering for potential active shooters is Apples and Oranges until all FBI agents can do each others jobs, and be funded, and not break law, all at the same time.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by oldNslow on 04/11/18 at 18:34:40

The kid's tweet is hyperbole, but he's right.He's talking about priorities , not allocation of funds, cross training, resources and the other things Eegore is blathering about. And the FBI's priority is the protection of the vested interests of the bureaucratic swamp that is our federal government, not some as*hole that might shoot a bunch of school kids. For the past year or so the FBI's priority has been fu*king Trump.

Mr. Pollack is pissed - his sister was murdered after all - and he's exaggerating. But he's not wrong.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by Eegore on 04/11/18 at 19:27:50

The tweet wont address the issues that will create change. Protests, forum posts, complaining wont do it.

The social media route being used to change FBI priorities wont work. Type "FIX IT!" twenty thousand times a day in Twitter and see what happens. All I'm saying is this guy is wasting his time, just like all the protests at the local college did.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/18 at 20:12:52

None of it is a waste of time.
The problem is
This guy isn't getting invitations to every t.v.news show
Like the gun rights destroyers do.
And when enough people are willing to say
We're not talking about the Real Problems.
Talking about guns is insulating the people who should be held to account for the failures.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/18 at 20:13:46

053B3A36243839570 wrote:

People should read that More than once

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by MnSpring on 04/12/18 at 08:08:27

7B5B59514C5B3E0 wrote:

The tweet wont address the issues that will create change. Protests, forum posts, complaining wont do it.
The social media route being used to change FBI priorities wont work. Type "FIX IT!" twenty thousand times a day in Twitter and see what happens. All I'm saying is this guy is wasting his time, just like all the protests at the local college did.

Well Hunter Pollack, will probably not, 'fix it'.

Yet the, Over and Over and Over,
telling of LIES, has worked.
aka, Sahara Brady.
OVER, and OVER, and OVER, and OVER, and OVER, and OVER, ETC.
she LIED.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by Eegore on 04/12/18 at 10:27:57

So what you are saying is if this guy stopped saying "FIX IT" and actually did something like spend 20 years developing gun-control advocacies, wrote books and legislation, and lied many times to do it then maybe he would get results.

I imagine if the people at my local college did the same thing then maybe they would have gotten change. But crying and yelling and holding signs and typing on Facebook/Twitter didn't.

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by raydawg on 04/12/18 at 10:39:47

But crying and yelling and holding signs and typing on Facebook/Twitter didn't.

This is a key statement, observation, about what is driving the news
narratives in today's climate.

Its also why Trump's election surprised so many.

The left is very vocal and active.
They are easy to read and gauge.

The middle, and right, not so much.
They don't do the demonstrations, shouting folk down at event, etc....
They just go about their business, as a whole.
Its like they know the left has no real interest in dialogue, so they don't waste their time.
The results won't be known until after the elections.
The right was suppose to be done, a fork stuck in it, after Obama's first victory......

Title: Re: The unpopular and correct position
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/13/18 at 10:11:45

3E2127203D3A0B3B0B33212D66540 wrote:

How about actually talking about that?

It's kinda preordained that the intelligent approach won't be enacted
WHILE ALL OF THE MEDIA PUSHES
BUT
GUNZ.