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Message started by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 09:25:35

Title: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 09:25:35

after decades of hearing conservatives complain about liberal bias in the news....  

Sinclair Media makes journalists read a script, an actual script.

Has there ever been this blatant of a bias shown in the "liberal" media??  

Sure, there's workplace bias, you hire those that tend to agree with you to get a better team dynamic so you are all on the same page and all of that, I'm not denying that. but an actual script?  FORCED by a massive media conglomerate at the threat of your job or massive fines?  

Show me the equivalent in the "liberal media" .  This is straight up propaganda, deny it if you want, and some of you will, but this is textbook, might as well have a staterun media with this crap going on.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo&rel=0&fs=1[/media]


Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by raydawg on 04/03/18 at 09:29:09

puppet

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by Eegore on 04/03/18 at 09:30:39


 A big part of the problem here in the US is the consumer and what they choose to listen to.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 09:35:20


72617964617767000 wrote:
puppet



yes, Sinclair has made their "journalists" into puppets

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 09:36:15


6040424A5740250 wrote:
 A big part of the problem here in the US is the consumer and what they choose to listen to.


no consumer chose to listen to this script, it was forced upon them by the corporation trying to suck up to Trump

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by raydawg on 04/03/18 at 09:37:54


143D203F37203E2B1E3D21261320263B2126520 wrote:
[quote author=72617964617767000 link=1522772735/0#1 date=1522772949]puppet



yes, Sinclair has made their "journalists" into puppets[/quote]


They are ALL puppets, some  folk just choose to believe THEIR puppet master.

I call them dupes, or botheads, idiots, ducks, fools.

You are free to believe whatever floats your boat, even if its dry-docked.


Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by raydawg on 04/03/18 at 09:40:27

Here, just in case you ignored this:

Been reading up on Chappaquiddick, wow, 1969 seem seems like another life time ago.....HECK, IT WAS  Grin
Well, I am hearing the movie gets down to the facts, only been a few decades, haha.
Reading some of the old reports, mercy, the Kennedy's were the ultimate White privileged family.
Anybody else would have been in jail.

Anyway, looking back at history, and then today, it sure is funny to see how journalism has changed, talk about a leaf blowing in the wind.
I guess it all depends on who is blowing WHAT, up your azz, that predicates which direction you blow.....

Look at this story, this just a few years ago.

My, my, my..... how quickly we rewrite history.

http://fortune.com/2016/03/29/obama-media/

Check out this quote from the story:

The “free media” comment seemed to be a direct reference to a recent estimate by the New York Times that suggested Donald Trump has gotten the equivalent of almost $2 billion in media coverage since his campaign began. So perhaps the President agrees with those who argue that the news media has helped create the phenomenon that is Donald Trump.

You think that came at the cost of hoping he gets elected, or in hoping he knocks any REAL republican candidate(s) out of the running and insuring a Clinton victory?????

Or here:

As investigative reporter John Russell pointed out in a response to the President’s criticisms on Twitter, the Obama administration holds the record for denying or withholding the largest amount of Freedom of Information requests. How is that helping the news media to “dig deeper” or “demand more” accountability? Former New York Times executive editor Jill Abramson has said the Obama government is “the most secretive White House I have ever been involved in covering.”

Say it ain't so CNN, my gawd, NOOoooooooooooooo.......Obama on Twitter, er I mean, Tweeter, er....he was so cool tho, even in if he was not being honest.

Go have fun, you might learn something, but again, to learn means to question your beliefs, not too many open minded liberals can do that.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 09:45:41


51425A47425444230 wrote:
Go have fun, you might learn something, but again, to learn means to question your beliefs, not too many open minded liberals can do that.


I'll address the rest of your post later, but I'd dare say that even FEWER close-minded conservatives do that.

the first thing you did was attack. You didn't question your dear beliefs that liberal media might not be all that evil as you think they are, and here you are making an equivalence argument, which yes, I asked for but even if I didn't I bet you'd have pulled this out anyway.  

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 09:55:13


3F2C34292C3A2A4D0 wrote:
Here, just in case you ignored this:

Been reading up on Chappaquiddick, wow, 1969 seem seems like another life time ago.....HECK, IT WAS  Grin
Well, I am hearing the movie gets down to the facts, only been a few decades, haha.
Reading some of the old reports, mercy, the Kennedy's were the ultimate White privileged family.
Anybody else would have been in jail.

Anyway, looking back at history, and then today, it sure is funny to see how journalism has changed, talk about a leaf blowing in the wind.
I guess it all depends on who is blowing WHAT, up your azz, that predicates which direction you blow.....

Look at this story, this just a few years ago.

My, my, my..... how quickly we rewrite history.

http://fortune.com/2016/03/29/obama-media/



Check out this quote from the story:

The “free media” comment seemed to be a direct reference to a recent estimate by the New York Times that suggested Donald Trump has gotten the equivalent of almost $2 billion in media coverage since his campaign began. So perhaps the President agrees with those who argue that the news media has helped create the phenomenon that is Donald Trump.

You think that came at the cost of hoping he gets elected, or in hoping he knocks any REAL republican candidate(s) out of the running and insuring a Clinton victory?????

Or here:

As investigative reporter John Russell pointed out in a response to the President’s criticisms on Twitter, the Obama administration holds the record for denying or withholding the largest amount of Freedom of Information requests. How is that helping the news media to “dig deeper” or “demand more” accountability? Former New York Times executive editor Jill Abramson has said the Obama government is “the most secretive White House I have ever been involved in covering.”

Say it ain't so CNN, my gawd, NOOoooooooooooooo.......Obama on Twitter, er I mean, Tweeter, er....he was so cool tho, even in if he was not being honest.

Go have fun, you might learn something, but again, to learn means to question your beliefs, not too many open minded liberals can do that.



okay, looked into it a bit, and ...

what does this story, which is about the elusive Obama transparency - meaning that the Obama administration wasn't very open with the media, how does that relate to a media conglomerate forcing their "local" reporters and tv personalities to read an EXACT script to push their message out?  I'm not seeing the connection, one is about a media conglomerate trying to curry favor with the current administration, (who is already a fan) to get favors, while the other is about the difficulty of access to a previous administration. Neither are good, but they are different.

This isn't about the use of social media by presidents to shut out traditional media either.

Yes, they are two wrongs, but not even close to being the same thing, like saying the grass is brown here then you saying the grass is black here --- okay, but what does one have to do with the other? Don't answer that because you can't, trust me, you're wrong on this, I agree, both are bad things, but they aren't related.



Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by raydawg on 04/03/18 at 10:13:29


6C4558474F5846536645595E6B585E43595E2A0 wrote:
[quote author=51425A47425444230 link=1522772735/0#6 date=1522773627]

Go have fun, you might learn something, but again, to learn means to question your beliefs, not too many open minded liberals can do that.


I'll address the rest of your post later, but I'd dare say that even FEWER close-minded conservatives do that.

the first thing you did was attack. You didn't question your dear beliefs that liberal media might not be all that evil as you think they are, and here you are making an equivalence argument, which yes, I asked for but even if I didn't I bet you'd have pulled this out anyway.  [/quote]

Look, you come here with this post, feigning intellectual integrity and honesty, and all you do is posed questions that you answer....

It's like saying prove to me you don't beat your wife.

Play a victim, that is on you, call it attacking, that is on you....

Just go play, pretend, that will solve the issues in front of us, or post bunny rabbits and presidents, whatever....

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/03/18 at 10:16:57

Yes, yes, it's terrible to have everyone state that their goals are straight coverage, neither left nor right, but honest coverage.

Shameful,, truly shameful.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by raydawg on 04/03/18 at 10:25:56


203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 wrote:
Yes, yes, it's terrible to have everyone state that their goals are straight coverage, neither left nor right, but honest coverage.

Shameful,, truly shameful.


Gawd, will they just toss him out of office already, what is taking so long....
I thought I read months ago tweeter was toast, geez....

Can't we get on with life  ;D

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/18 at 10:31:50


240D100F07100E1B2E0D11162310160B1116620 wrote:
after decades of hearing conservatives complain about liberal bias in the news....  ..."

WOW, the one who complains, ALL THE  TIME,
about,  “What About Isim”

Post’s a, Whatboutism.

“…Show me the equivalent in the “liberal media” …”

Well, not, reading a written script.
 But, following a,  ’Scripted’, Outline.
I believe is most certainly the, ‘Equivalent’.
And that is very prevalent in the likes of,
Chicken Noodle News.

Then their is the, REFUSAL, of a persons Voice.
if it is NOT the ‘Approved’, ’Scripted outline’.
(Recently in the case of a FL, Father & Brother)
I don’t think that is, ‘Equivalent'.
  It is just plan old  LYING,
     to make people FEAR.

(Or if one wants to be PC  Correct,  Bigoted)



Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/03/18 at 10:45:34

Once again,
HERE'S what the Exploding Head
Butthurt Militia are freaking out about.

Can you please READ this?
Then, Ohhh, Do Tell me what you see to complain about?

Our greatest responsibility is to serve our Northwest communities. We are extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that KOMO News produces. But we’re concerned about the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.

More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories … stories that just aren’t true, without checking facts first. Unfortunately, some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias and agenda to control ‘exactly what people think.' This is extremely dangerous to a democracy.

At KOMO it’s our responsibility to pursue and report the truth. We understand Truth is neither politically ‘left nor right.’ Our commitment to factual reporting is the foundation of our credibility, now more than ever.

But we are human and sometimes our reporting might fall short. If you believe our coverage is unfair please reach out to us by going to KOMOnews.com and clicking on CONTENT CONCERNS. We value your comments. We will respond back to you.

We work very hard to seek the truth and strive to be fair, balanced and factual… We consider it our honor, our privilege to responsibly deliver the news every day.

Thank you for watching and we appreciate your feedback.



Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by raydawg on 04/03/18 at 11:28:48

KOMO is my local news, and by no stretch of the imagination is it a conservative news outlet.
It wouldn't survive here, period.
Because of the very liberal King County, it markets the news accordingly.

Again, go back and look how journalism and coverage has morphed into the entertainment industry, academia, and even private enterprises with boycotts and stories of cops not welcomed at donuts shops, etc....

I showed just one link, above, there are 1000's, yet folks want to be led by those that stroke their little herd mentality and ego.....
And fault the opposition fringe on the other side of the coin....

They do not get it, or maybe they do, and can't accept it, but they are the fools they hate.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 11:41:42


5F4046415C5B6A5A6A52404C07350 wrote:
Yes, yes, it's terrible to have everyone state that their goals are straight coverage, neither left nor right, but honest coverage.

Shameful,, truly shameful.



when they are lying about it, it is.  

Sinclair is not a straight coverage organization.

otherwise they would have instructed their tv personalities to say, "We, a Sinclair Broadcasting Group station, .... blah blah blah"  the company itself would have made an announcement instead of disguising it as some local news reporters opinion/statement/journalistic piece.

they didn't have them say that, they had them pretend it was an eye-opening announcement that added value to their individual stations, they hit all the trigger words conservatives are orgasming over these days, "false news narratives being repeated without checking the facts"  while they are FORCING their own reporters to REPEAT an exact script without those reporters actually check that statement for validity.

remember when I complained about talking to a wall here. THIS IS WHY.  You all complained about the "liberal media" when they were sucking up to Obama, but now that a conservative media IS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING TO TRUMP, distributing Trump's "evil media/fake news" message, you are all fine with it.  


whatever, waste of my time trying to get through to you all.  

especially you Ray, open-minded idiot you claim yourself to be.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 11:48:01


57445C41445242250 wrote:
[quote author=6C4558474F5846536645595E6B585E43595E2A0 link=1522772735/0#7 date=1522773941][quote author=51425A47425444230 link=1522772735/0#6 date=1522773627]

Go have fun, you might learn something, but again, to learn means to question your beliefs, not too many open minded liberals can do that.


I'll address the rest of your post later, but I'd dare say that even FEWER close-minded conservatives do that.

the first thing you did was attack. You didn't question your dear beliefs that liberal media might not be all that evil as you think they are, and here you are making an equivalence argument, which yes, I asked for but even if I didn't I bet you'd have pulled this out anyway.  [/quote]

Look, you come here with this post, feigning intellectual integrity and honesty, and all you do is posed questions that you answer....

It's like saying prove to me you don't beat your wife.

Play a victim, that is on you, call it attacking, that is on you....

Just go play, pretend, that will solve the issues in front of us, or post bunny rabbits and presidents, whatever....
[/quote]


you assume to much little grasshopper

you are playing the straw-man game, you and JOG do it so well, you assume I'm this, and then you build up your argument based on me being this straw-man thing you've created,

I agreed with your post, all those things Obama did to the media, making it tough for them to cover him and all that, that was bad.

This Sinclair thing, trying to fool conservative viewers or just viewers of it's stations in general that they are somehow not participating in repeating fake news while they all repeat the same thing un-fact checked and under threat of loosing their jobs...   That's bad too.  

there can never be an honest conversation until we quit assuming the worst of each other and actually listen.

It doesn't seem like any conservative brain trusts on here actually want to do that, they want to use whatever is posted to spew their narrative about the EVIL Liberals and leftists... while ignoring the evil that's done in conservativism's name.








Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 11:48:40


4C6F527173686F66010 wrote:
[quote author=240D100F07100E1B2E0D11162310160B1116620 link=1522772735/0#0 date=1522772735]after decades of hearing conservatives complain about liberal bias in the news....  ..."

WOW, the one who complains, ALL THE  TIME,
about,  “What About Isim”

Post’s a, Whatboutism.

“…Show me the equivalent in the “liberal media” …”

Well, not, reading a written script.
 But, following a,  ’Scripted’, Outline.
I believe is most certainly the, ‘Equivalent’.
And that is very prevalent in the likes of,
Chicken Noodle News.

Then their is the, REFUSAL, of a persons Voice.
if it is NOT the ‘Approved’, ’Scripted outline’.
(Recently in the case of a FL, Father & Brother)
I don’t think that is, ‘Equivalent'.
  It is just plan old  LYING,
     to make people FEAR.

(Or if one wants to be PC  Correct,  Bigoted)


[/quote]

blah blah blah,

blah

blah blah

blah blah blah blah blah

blah

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 11:50:59


302F292E33340535053D2F23685A0 wrote:
Once again,
HERE'S what the Exploding Head
Butthurt Militia are freaking out about.

Can you please READ this?
Then, Ohhh, Do Tell me what you see to complain about?

Our greatest responsibility is to serve our Northwest communities. We are extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that KOMO News produces. But we’re concerned about the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.

More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories … stories that just aren’t true, without checking facts first. Unfortunately, some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias and agenda to control ‘exactly what people think.' This is extremely dangerous to a democracy.

At KOMO it’s our responsibility to pursue and report the truth. We understand Truth is neither politically ‘left nor right.’ Our commitment to factual reporting is the foundation of our credibility, now more than ever.

But we are human and sometimes our reporting might fall short. If you believe our coverage is unfair please reach out to us by going to KOMOnews.com and clicking on CONTENT CONCERNS. We value your comments. We will respond back to you.

We work very hard to seek the truth and strive to be fair, balanced and factual… We consider it our honor, our privilege to responsibly deliver the news every day.

Thank you for watching and we appreciate your feedback.



they are saying this WHILE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING THEY ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT!!!!!!  

if you can't see that, then I can't help you, maybe you should add Lost to your name, cause you truly are

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 11:54:07

Also this is like 4 on 1 here, you all feel like tough guys don't ya, all you sweeties  :-*

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by T And T Garage on 04/03/18 at 12:04:21


72617964617767000 wrote:
[quote author=6C4558474F5846536645595E6B585E43595E2A0 link=1522772735/0#7 date=1522773941][quote author=51425A47425444230 link=1522772735/0#6 date=1522773627]

Go have fun, you might learn something, but again, to learn means to question your beliefs, not too many open minded liberals can do that.


I'll address the rest of your post later, but I'd dare say that even FEWER close-minded conservatives do that.

the first thing you did was attack. You didn't question your dear beliefs that liberal media might not be all that evil as you think they are, and here you are making an equivalence argument, which yes, I asked for but even if I didn't I bet you'd have pulled this out anyway.  [/quote]

Look, you come here with this post, feigning intellectual integrity and honesty, and all you do is posed questions that you answer....

It's like saying prove to me you don't beat your wife.

Play a victim, that is on you, call it attacking, that is on you....

Just go play, pretend, that will solve the issues in front of us, or post bunny rabbits and presidents, whatever....
[/quote]

LMAO!!  Really ray??  "Just go play"??  Once again, your hypocrisy shows.

WTF do YOU do here?  Have you actually ever read any of your own posts??

Wow, what a joke.


Hey, here's an idea:
Why not take a look at what sinclair does?  Look at its "must-run" packages that they put together outside of the station producers.  Look at one of the other must-runs - "bottom line with boris" commentary.

But no - you just want to go play...

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 12:04:30


091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 wrote:
Once again,
HERE'S what the Exploding Head
Butthurt Militia are freaking out about.

Can you please READ this?
Then, Ohhh, Do Tell me what you see to complain about?

Our greatest responsibility is to serve our Northwest communities. We are extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that KOMO News produces. But we’re concerned about the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.

More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories … stories that just aren’t true, without checking facts first. Unfortunately, some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias and agenda to control ‘exactly what people think.' This is extremely dangerous to a democracy.

At KOMO it’s our responsibility to pursue and report the truth. We understand Truth is neither politically ‘left nor right.’ Our commitment to factual reporting is the foundation of our credibility, now more than ever.

But we are human and sometimes our reporting might fall short. If you believe our coverage is unfair please reach out to us by going to KOMOnews.com and clicking on CONTENT CONCERNS. We value your comments. We will respond back to you.

We work very hard to seek the truth and strive to be fair, balanced and factual… We consider it our honor, our privilege to responsibly deliver the news every day.

Thank you for watching and we appreciate your feedback.


Oh, and if it had read like this:

WE AT KOMO, A SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP STATION, feel it's

Our greatest responsibility is to serve our "fill in the bank here" communities. We are extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP produces. But we’re concerned about the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.

More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories … stories that just aren’t true, without checking facts first. Unfortunately, some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias and agenda to control ‘exactly what people think.' This is extremely dangerous to a democracy.

At SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP it’s our responsibility to pursue and report the truth. We understand Truth is neither politically ‘left nor right.’ Our commitment to factual reporting is the foundation of our credibility, now more than ever.

But we are human and sometimes our reporting might fall short. If you believe our coverage is unfair please reach out to us by going to KOMOnews.com A SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP STATION and clicking on CONTENT CONCERNS. We value your comments. We will respond back to you.

We work very hard to seek the truth and strive to be fair, balanced and factual… We consider it our honor, our privilege to responsibly deliver the news every day.

Thank you for watching and we appreciate your feedback.


then there'd be less bother about this all, CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE TRUTH IN MEDIA LOOKS LIKE.

Sinclair didn't take responsibility or ownership of this originally, they wanted to fool us all into thinking that their stations actually have autonomy while controlling EXACTLY what they say.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by T And T Garage on 04/03/18 at 12:06:56

Yeah, nothing says free and independent news media like a bunch of drones reading the same exact message.

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/18 at 12:15:33


4F515E5F524F54493B0 wrote:
Yeah, nothing says free and independent news media like a bunch of drones reading the same exact message.

Hmmmm,
 Would that be Just Like,
 CNN and the Like ?????


(Oh Wait, can’t say that, cause lost, will yell, whatabgoutism)

;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D  

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by T And T Garage on 04/03/18 at 12:21:05


163F223D35223C291C3F2324112224392324500 wrote:
[quote author=091610170A0D3C0C3C04161A51630 link=1522772735/0#13 date=1522777534]Once again,
HERE'S what the Exploding Head
Butthurt Militia are freaking out about.

Can you please READ this?
Then, Ohhh, Do Tell me what you see to complain about?

Our greatest responsibility is to serve our Northwest communities. We are extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that KOMO News produces. But we’re concerned about the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.

More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories … stories that just aren’t true, without checking facts first. Unfortunately, some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias and agenda to control ‘exactly what people think.' This is extremely dangerous to a democracy.

At KOMO it’s our responsibility to pursue and report the truth. We understand Truth is neither politically ‘left nor right.’ Our commitment to factual reporting is the foundation of our credibility, now more than ever.

But we are human and sometimes our reporting might fall short. If you believe our coverage is unfair please reach out to us by going to KOMOnews.com and clicking on CONTENT CONCERNS. We value your comments. We will respond back to you.

We work very hard to seek the truth and strive to be fair, balanced and factual… We consider it our honor, our privilege to responsibly deliver the news every day.

Thank you for watching and we appreciate your feedback.


Oh, and if it had read like this:

WE AT KOMO, A SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP STATION, feel it's

Our greatest responsibility is to serve our "fill in the bank here" communities. We are extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP produces. But we’re concerned about the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media.

More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories … stories that just aren’t true, without checking facts first. Unfortunately, some members of the media use their platforms to push their own personal bias and agenda to control ‘exactly what people think.' This is extremely dangerous to a democracy.

At SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP it’s our responsibility to pursue and report the truth. We understand Truth is neither politically ‘left nor right.’ Our commitment to factual reporting is the foundation of our credibility, now more than ever.

But we are human and sometimes our reporting might fall short. If you believe our coverage is unfair please reach out to us by going to KOMOnews.com A SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP STATION and clicking on CONTENT CONCERNS. We value your comments. We will respond back to you.

We work very hard to seek the truth and strive to be fair, balanced and factual… We consider it our honor, our privilege to responsibly deliver the news every day.

Thank you for watching and we appreciate your feedback.


then there'd be less bother about this all, CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE TRUTH IN MEDIA LOOKS LIKE.

Sinclair didn't take responsibility or ownership of this originally, they wanted to fool us all into thinking that their stations actually have autonomy while controlling EXACTLY what they say. [/quote]


Game.  Set.  Match to Lost.

Well put.

All you cons need to read this line again:

"then there'd be less bother about this all, CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE TRUTH IN MEDIA LOOKS LIKE. "

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 12:35:17


6B487556544F4841260 wrote:
[quote author=4F515E5F524F54493B0 link=1522772735/15#22 date=1522782416]Yeah, nothing says free and independent news media like a bunch of drones reading the same exact message.

Hmmmm,
 Would that be Just Like,
 CNN and the Like ?????


(Oh Wait, can’t say that, cause lost, will yell, whatabgoutism)

;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D  
[/quote]

for once that's not a whataboutism --- which shows how you don't even realize what you're  doing half the time, but alas, back to the point.

And no, covering the same story is different than reading the exact same words/script over and over again.

Also, what do you mean by "and the like" ?  

CNN competes with MSNBC, which competes with NBC which competes with MSN, which competes with CBS, which competes with Fox News, which competes with.. etc....

so one company can't actually force them to read the same exact thing over and over again to spread that propaganda.

now does "group think" take place, sometimes yeah, cause yes, like minds to think alike, so yes, there is a liberal bias in that way, and the intensity of the varies based on the company...

Imagine, I"m sure you have already, but imagine if this came out and it was "CNN and the like" and it was George Soros who wrote the script and that script repeated a lot of what Obama was saying about conservatives at the time.  

That's more like what this is like.


Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by raydawg on 04/03/18 at 13:35:27

Fools.....

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by T And T Garage on 04/03/18 at 13:39:53


5C4F574A4F59492E0 wrote:
Fools.....


Ignorant.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 13:46:32


53405845405646210 wrote:
Fools.....



I get it man.  You say all "news" should be viewed with skepticism, I provide an example and you freak out like I'm poking you in the eye or something...

I don't get you.  

you just want yourself to be right all the time and get kudos for everything you say, but you are actively being a hypocrite about it.

I know how news works, I provide an example of it here working badly, against those that consume it, and you act like a child saying "I know you are but what am I?"  

I'm not saying you're wrong about how news works, I'm saying it SHOULDN'T work like that, and you seem to agree because you yell about it too, but then you say "go play" so only you can yell about how the news is being abused by those in power?  

I guess your point is "nothing new here, move along."  

head in the sand seems to be as good to you as eyes wide open.





Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/18 at 13:53:18


6F465B444C5B455065465A5D685B5D405A5D290 wrote:
"... you just want yourself to be right all the time and get kudos for everything you say, but you are actively being a hypocrite about it. ..."


Gee, that sounds like a  Description,
               of a, Troll


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 14:21:32


1C3F022123383F36510 wrote:
[quote author=6F465B444C5B455065465A5D685B5D405A5D290 link=1522772735/15#28 date=1522788392]"... you just want yourself to be right all the time and get kudos for everything you say, but you are actively being a hypocrite about it. ..."


Gee, that sounds like a  Description,
               of a, Troll


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

I'm not calling Ray a Troll, are you?

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by MnSpring on 04/03/18 at 14:29:29


48617C636B7C627742617D7A4F7C7A677D7A0E0 wrote:
[quote author=1C3F022123383F36510 link=1522772735/15#29 date=1522788798][quote author=6F465B444C5B455065465A5D685B5D405A5D290 link=1522772735/15#28 date=1522788392]"... you just want yourself to be right all the time and get kudos for everything you say, but you are actively being a hypocrite about it. ..."


Gee, that sounds like a  Description,
               of a, Troll


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

I'm not calling Ray a Troll, are you?
[/quote]

       WOW, you can't figure out,
             who, could be a, Troll ?

(*Just a Hint, would Not be Ray)


Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 14:31:41


1E3D0023213A3D34530 wrote:
[quote author=48617C636B7C627742617D7A4F7C7A677D7A0E0 link=1522772735/30#30 date=1522790492][quote author=1C3F022123383F36510 link=1522772735/15#29 date=1522788798][quote author=6F465B444C5B455065465A5D685B5D405A5D290 link=1522772735/15#28 date=1522788392]"... you just want yourself to be right all the time and get kudos for everything you say, but you are actively being a hypocrite about it. ..."


Gee, that sounds like a  Description,
               of a, Troll


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

I'm not calling Ray a Troll, are you?
[/quote]

       WOW, you can't figure out,
             who, could be a, Troll ?

(*Just a Hint, would Not be Ray)

[/quote]


I know you are but what am I?  

ha!


Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by T And T Garage on 04/03/18 at 15:30:17


0D2439262E3927320724383F0A393F22383F4B0 wrote:
[quote author=1E3D0023213A3D34530 link=1522772735/30#31 date=1522790969][quote author=48617C636B7C627742617D7A4F7C7A677D7A0E0 link=1522772735/30#30 date=1522790492][quote author=1C3F022123383F36510 link=1522772735/15#29 date=1522788798][quote author=6F465B444C5B455065465A5D685B5D405A5D290 link=1522772735/15#28 date=1522788392]"... you just want yourself to be right all the time and get kudos for everything you say, but you are actively being a hypocrite about it. ..."


Gee, that sounds like a  Description,
               of a, Troll


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

I'm not calling Ray a Troll, are you?
[/quote]

       WOW, you can't figure out,
             who, could be a, Troll ?

(*Just a Hint, would Not be Ray)

[/quote]


I know you are but what am I?  

ha!

[/quote]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/93/Buddy_christ.jpg/300px-Buddy_christ.jpg

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/03/18 at 15:34:59

Wow, descended into the sandbox and people hollering
Victory...

Whodaguessed?

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/03/18 at 18:21:07


47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
Wow, descended into the sandbox and people hollering
Victory...

Whodaguessed?



y'all started it, whodaguessed?  

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/03/18 at 19:49:12

Y'all?

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by MnSpring on 04/04/18 at 08:39:08

Boob-Tube shooting.

Went to look it up on Just the Internet.
Just sort of a, experiment, as to, ‘Sides’.
Some observations.

Speculation: everyone had that, as to why, who, etc.
Reason: Again everyone had, a, ‘Possible boyfriend’.
     On one site, (BBC) was said: “…On her website she also ranted against YouTube, saying: "Videos of targeted users are filtered and merely relegated, so that people can hardly see their videos.” She also quotes Adolf Hitler, saying: “Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”…”
Gun: Handgun only.  Only ONE  site said a 9mm.
  But No place said, what kind.
Paid especial attention to ‘kind’,
as that will temporally bring up the value of that, ‘kind’,
as the ‘Fairy Dust Sprinklers’, SCREAM  to  BAN  it.

So All in all. The information is just, ‘listing a bit’  this or that way.
Will it stay the same,  or change?
I believe that simply depends on, if the 3 shot, die.

But of course, as soon as the ’type’, of handgun is released.
  (What, did the shooter, throw the gun in the river after she shot her self?)
Their WILL be the cry from the DFI’s standing in the street:
 “Ban That  …….”
So then we will know, ‘what’ that is,
then the price of that, ’thing, will go up.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/04/18 at 10:00:56


594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 wrote:
Y'all?



you know that's how it's spelled right??  I know you've heard that word before.  

specifically Ray, when he responded saying "puppet"  I played it off, hoping to give him a chance to not be so confrontational, but I know he was calling me a puppet, due to the aggressive nature of the rest of his posts towards me and him trying to play the whataboutism game on his next post.  

then you posting
"Once again,
HERE'S what the Exploding Head
Butthurt Militia are freaking out about."

yeah, and you're trying to complain about how this thread ended up as a name calling shouting match??

take some personal responsibility.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/04/18 at 10:01:53


0724193A3823242D4A0 wrote:
Boob-Tube shooting.

Went to look it up on Just the Internet.
Just sort of a, experiment, as to, ‘Sides’.
Some observations.

Speculation: everyone had that, as to why, who, etc.
Reason: Again everyone had, a, ‘Possible boyfriend’.
     On one site, (BBC) was said: “…On her website she also ranted against YouTube, saying: "Videos of targeted users are filtered and merely relegated, so that people can hardly see their videos.” She also quotes Adolf Hitler, saying: “Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”…”
Gun: Handgun only.  Only ONE  site said a 9mm.
  But No place said, what kind.
Paid especial attention to ‘kind’,
as that will temporally bring up the value of that, ‘kind’,
as the ‘Fairy Dust Sprinklers’, SCREAM  to  BAN  it.

So All in all. The information is just, ‘listing a bit’  this or that way.
Will it stay the same,  or change?
I believe that simply depends on, if the 3 shot, die.

But of course, as soon as the ’type’, of handgun is released.
  (What, did the shooter, throw the gun in the river after she shot her self?)
Their WILL be the cry from the DFI’s standing in the street:
 “Ban That  …….”
So then we will know, ‘what’ that is,
then the price of that, ’thing, will go up.



MAKE A NEW THREAD!!!! this isn't about that.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/18 at 10:19:47


072E332C24332D380D2E3235003335283235410 wrote:
[quote author=594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 link=1522772735/30#36 date=1522810152]Y'all?



you know that's how it's spelled right??  I know you've heard that word before.  

specifically Ray, when he responded saying "puppet"  I played it off, hoping to give him a chance to not be so confrontational, but I know he was calling me a puppet, due to the aggressive nature of the rest of his posts towards me and him trying to play the whataboutism game on his next post.  

then you posting
"Once again,
HERE'S what the Exploding Head
Butthurt Militia are freaking out about."

yeah, and you're trying to complain about how this thread ended up as a name calling shouting match??

take some personal responsibility. [/quote]

You're right. I was derisive about the uproar over a group of people who were, in unison, making a mission statement to be honest.
That idiots would Somehow be able to interpret that as propaganda and somehow proof of the fact that the people reading that mission statement were puppets is mind boggling and worthy of derision.
Whether the organization has been or even intends to live up to those reasonable standards of journalistic integrity is beside the point.
The POINT IS
As a unit they have pledged to be real journalists, not working to promote an agenda, but just looking for the truth,
And THAT'S what the butthurt militia took up arms about.

Why wouldn't everyone laugh at THAT?

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by MnSpring on 04/04/18 at 10:56:07


4F667B646C7B657045667A7D487B7D607A7D090 wrote:
MAKE A NEW THREAD!!!! this isn't about that.

Really ??????

The title of this Thread is:
  “Bias in the News…”
So a Account, of Several, ’News’, places.
Stating, in that ONE, event, the, ‘Bias’, was minimal.
Would  NOT  be, Relevant ??????

Here is something, that is Not  Relevant.
I Eat M&M’s, by ripping off the top of the bag,
and tossing some in my mouth,
then letting them melt, or crunching them immediately,
          or something in-between.

  (Just Guessing here)
Do you eat M&M’s, by cutting off the top of the bag with a ‘food’ grade sizers.
Then carefully pouring them out on a hard surface.
Then line them up by Color.
Then put ONE in your mouth,
and each time, eat them the SAME  way ?
  (The above two paragraphs, would be, NOT, relevant)

(This, IS, Relevant, to Your post of Not being relevant).

BIAS:  prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair:
NEWS: newly received or noteworthy information, esp. about recent or important events:

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/04/18 at 12:03:11


4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
[quote author=072E332C24332D380D2E3235003335283235410 link=1522772735/30#38 date=1522861256][quote author=594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 link=1522772735/30#36 date=1522810152]Y'all?



you know that's how it's spelled right??  I know you've heard that word before.  

specifically Ray, when he responded saying "puppet"  I played it off, hoping to give him a chance to not be so confrontational, but I know he was calling me a puppet, due to the aggressive nature of the rest of his posts towards me and him trying to play the whataboutism game on his next post.  

then you posting
"Once again,
HERE'S what the Exploding Head
Butthurt Militia are freaking out about."

yeah, and you're trying to complain about how this thread ended up as a name calling shouting match??

take some personal responsibility. [/quote]

You're right. I was derisive about the uproar over a group of people who were, in unison, making a mission statement to be honest.
That idiots would Somehow be able to interpret that as propaganda and somehow proof of the fact that the people reading that mission statement were puppets is mind boggling and worthy of derision.
Whether the organization has been or even intends to live up to those reasonable standards of journalistic integrity is beside the point.
The POINT IS
As a unit they have pledged to be real journalists, not working to promote an agenda, but just looking for the truth,
And THAT'S what the butthurt militia took up arms about.

Why wouldn't everyone laugh at THAT?
[/quote]

Again, missing the point. the group of people WEREN'T making a mission statement. They were reading the company line to alter your perception of what they do instead of letting what they do speak for itself. It was a pure propaganda message, and if CNN had done that, just CNN, you'd be flipping your lid. The company was trying to trick it's viewers, that's the problem. Sinclair wasn't honest about it, they make stoogies out of their "journalists."  

But sure, it's all just non-sense since it's been brought up by the "militia of the butthurt" "liberal media" .

If Sinclair wanted to make that statement, they why didn't they OWN IT? Instead they hid that it was their message, and tried to deceive their viewers into thinking it was their "independent" stations and journalists saying it.

Talking to a wall here.




Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/04/18 at 16:31:59

Until THAT moment when I saw the video, I never even Heard of Sinclair, except for the gas station from years ago.

Yeah, I'd go Bananas if CNN or Fox did that, because I KNOW what utter Bullshit they deliver with a straight face.
I don't know HOOT about Sinclair.
If what they were saying conflicts with what they Do, laugh at them, just like I laugh at every other alleged group of journalists.
If you have a
Classic load of bullshit from Sinclair that would show me what a Buncha agenda driven Jakkasses they are, pop me a link.
Fair and Balanced is clearly a load of BULLSHIT
I don't even know what CNN claims to deliver, but I do know what it is.
I don't know where to even go to see what Sinclair is about.
SNN?

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/04/18 at 19:19:46


36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:
Until THAT moment when I saw the video, I never even Heard of Sinclair, except for the gas station from years ago.

Yeah, I'd go Bananas if CNN or Fox did that, because I KNOW what utter Bullshit they deliver with a straight face.
I don't know HOOT about Sinclair.
If what they were saying conflicts with what they Do, laugh at them, just like I laugh at every other alleged group of journalists.
If you have a
Classic load of bullshit from Sinclair that would show me what a Buncha agenda driven Jakkasses they are, pop me a link.
Fair and Balanced is clearly a load of BULLSHIT
I don't even know what CNN claims to deliver, but I do know what it is.
I don't know where to even go to see what Sinclair is about.
SNN?



that's fair. thank you.  

Since, the fact that they strong arm their affiliates to pull tricks and spread their propaganda isn't enough for you....

I'll do some more research, but what I've learned about Sinclair just from my admittedly biased sources, is that they are a highly conservative broadcasting group that have been purchasing lots of stations and media outlets for the last decade or so.  I think they currently need governmental approval for something and are obviously sucking up to Trump to get that approval, I believe they might want to buy even more stations and maybe they've reached their limit, but I'm totally just guessing at that right now.  


Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by WebsterMark on 04/05/18 at 03:56:45


775E435C54435D487D5E4245704345584245310 wrote:
after decades of hearing conservatives complain about liberal bias in the news....  

Sinclair Media makes journalists read a script, an actual script.

Has there ever been this blatant of a bias shown in the "liberal" media??  

Sure, there's workplace bias, you hire those that tend to agree with you to get a better team dynamic so you are all on the same page and all of that, I'm not denying that. but an actual script?  FORCED by a massive media conglomerate at the threat of your job or massive fines?  

Show me the equivalent in the "liberal media" .  This is straight up propaganda, deny it if you want, and some of you will, but this is textbook, might as well have a staterun media with this crap going on.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo&rel=0&fs=1[/media]



Back on topic Lost,  read Biased by Bernard Goldberg

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/05/18 at 09:32:31

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eZVv2AOCnaA


Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/05/18 at 10:00:33


526067767160774864776E050 wrote:
[quote author=775E435C54435D487D5E4245704345584245310 link=1522772735/0#0 date=1522772735]after decades of hearing conservatives complain about liberal bias in the news....  

Sinclair Media makes journalists read a script, an actual script.

Has there ever been this blatant of a bias shown in the "liberal" media??  

Sure, there's workplace bias, you hire those that tend to agree with you to get a better team dynamic so you are all on the same page and all of that, I'm not denying that. but an actual script?  FORCED by a massive media conglomerate at the threat of your job or massive fines?  

Show me the equivalent in the "liberal media" .  This is straight up propaganda, deny it if you want, and some of you will, but this is textbook, might as well have a staterun media with this crap going on.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo&rel=0&fs=1[/media]



Back on topic Lost,  read Biased by Bernard Goldberg[/quote]


Where did I deny that there's liberal bias in the media???  

There's a reason I check a lot of sites before trusting anything specifically, and even then, there's always another side to things.  

I understand media, I have a master's degree in media. I get all of this.

I'll look into the book, maybe it's worth a read, but, not sure I trust you.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/05/18 at 10:35:44


7B646265787F4E7E4E76646823110 wrote:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eZVv2AOCnaA



and.....?  

Did any of those stories have far reaching political implications?  Were they bashing other "news" networks as being false and untrustworthy?  

Those were all fluff/filler news pieces. I'm not against a corporation using smart use of their resources (script writers) to produce generally benign content that appeals to the their viewer.

But you'll notice how in NONE of those scripts did they declare themselves to be independent, fact checking journalists worthy of your trust, while they all read the exact same script that they were forced to read without doing their own independent fact checking or any journalism at all.




Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/05/18 at 12:37:21

I know how distressing it's been for so many people to have this Sinclair bunch all saying what they want everyone to believe about the honesty of their journalism. That they are claiming to Be the High Road writ large just sticks in everyone's craw. Gotchya..
I'm just pointing out the obvious.
They don't have to be much to be better.
They can be the very best, with ease.
The New Golden Boy, Tucker Carlson?
I heard about him.
I decided to see for myself.
Phhht..
He completely failed to say things that I knew about and failed to ask obviously important questions.
Just more
Controlled Opposition.

Until someone shows me a reason to laugh at Sinclair, I'll accept them, and IF I ever see anything from them, I'll be just as skeptical about it as I am about every other alleged journalism that is mass produced. It's so hard to pull the Bullshit from the real it's not worth it.

Screw Fox and CNN and all of them.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by Andy RN on 04/05/18 at 14:32:30


0A233E21293E203500233F380D3E38253F384C0 wrote:
Has there ever been this blatant of a bias shown in the "liberal" media??


Sure there has. There's bias in every media, whether it's right or left leaning. I read a couple of different sources, and I don't take any of them too seriously.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 04/05/18 at 14:47:41


3D293C3B3F31500 wrote:
[quote author=0A233E21293E203500233F380D3E38253F384C0 link=1522772735/0#0 date=1522772735]
Has there ever been this blatant of a bias shown in the "liberal" media??


Sure there has. There's bias in every media, whether it's right or left leaning. I read a couple of different sources, and I don't take any of them too seriously.[/quote]

I'm looking for a specific script that has bashed the right wing media as this script has bashed the "liberal" media, and liberal is in quotes because really it's bashing any station that's not owned by Sinclair.

Title: Re: Bias in the News....
Post by Andy RN on 04/05/18 at 15:27:44

Sorry, I don't study bias in the news THAT closely, such that I can furnish a specific example of a script used by left-leaning media. I do seem to remember some allegations of scripted questioning done by CNN following that recent school shooting in FL, however I think I also read articles contesting those allegations. Too much of a drama show for me to follow.

If you are really into researching this, I would send an email to some of the people at the right-leaning media outlets. They would probably be able to provide you with a specific example. Cheers.

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