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Title: Just an opening act........ Post by raydawg on 02/05/18 at 11:17:26 Now this sounds like Trump. You shouldn't waste your time reading it, for its not sound bites and marching orders, for you who practice hypocrisy as a religion. The Nunes Memo: Just an Opening Act Landmines left behind by the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign might soon start detonating—on Democrats. Fred Siegel Marc Epstein February 3, 2018 Politics and law The publication yesterday by the House Intelligence Committee, under the leadership of chairman Devin Nunes, of a four-page summary memo regarding FBI surveillance of a Trump campaign advisor in 2016 is the long-awaited opening act of an extended drama about the Obama administration’s abuse of power—which, when all is revealed, might yet outdo that of the Nixon administration. Obama concealed his sharp-edged, Chicago-style machine politics under the rhetorical cover of progressivism. He was protected by a press corps that first enlisted in his administration and then fought to stop Donald Trump. But now that Obama is out of office, his ability to intimidate is much diminished. This past week, a 2005 picture of a beaming Obama next to a bright-eyed Louis Farrakhan surfaced, after having been held back for more than a decade at the behest of a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey, who had been tried for corruption by Obama’s Justice Department after he refused to toe the party line about the “peace-loving” mullahs of Iran, has now seen the charges against him dropped. Z Street, a hawkish nonprofit supporter of Benjamin Netanyahu’s government in Israel, had been tied up with IRS matters since 2009; it has just been released from its legal chains. Democrats are holding to the line that the prophet of hope and change ran a pure administration, virtually free of scandal. But the memo is probably just the beginning; we’re likely to see many more revelations come out. Obama isn’t directly mentioned in the memo. But he’s nonetheless implicated through his appointees’ apparent efforts to clear Hillary Clinton in her State Department email scandal while undermining her opponent, Trump, through the veneer of legality provided by FISA (the Foreign Intelligence Security Act) warrants, justified solely by the so-called Steele Dossier. The dossier was paid for by Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee; it was created by former MI6 agent Christopher Steele, who despised Trump, and the “research” firm Fusion GPS. The FISA Court, supervised by Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, was never told about the unverified dossier’s origins. As for matters of Russian collusion: Fusion GPS was tied to Vladimir Putin’s associates in the Kremlin, who wanted to undermine the Magnitsky Act, a U.S. law that sanctions Russian officials believed to be connected with the murder of anti-Kremlin lawyer Sergei Magnitsky. The “journalists” at CNN made much of Donald Trump Jr.’s 20-minute meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower in 2016, while ignoring her meeting, before and after that one, with Fusion’s cofounder, former Wall Street Journal reporter Glen Simpson, who was working to overturn the Magnitsky Act. Simpson slimed Hermitage Capital’s Willian Browder, who had helped pass the Magnitsky legislation and authored the important book Red Notice. Wonder of wonders, the liberal press, long opposed to prior restraint when it comes to publishing material on American intelligence, is howling about the release of the Intelligence Committee memo. They’re suddenly concerned, we’re supposed to believe, about damage to national security and the institutional well-being of the FBI. Democrats and their media allies, notes Roger Simon, have pushed themselves into a corner. They can’t decide whether the best approach is to insist that the memo is a “nothing-burger” or a mortal danger to the country. So far, not one Democrat has broken ranks. They will surely find procedural problems with the House memo. They will continue to wage their fight, a la Hollywood congressman Adam Schiff, on behalf of “the resistance.” But a resistance is not an opposition. The numerous landmines Obama and Clinton left behind them, intending to waylay the initially awkward Trump administration, are starting to detonate—on Democrats. The vulgar Trump isn’t constrained by convention. He won’t go soft on politicians who saw no problem in issuing FISA warrants in the midst of a presidential campaign and then keeping them operational into his first term in office. As the information comes out, the Democrats’ FISA subterfuge will be seen by much of the country as a soft coup attempt. There’s no other way to put it. Sure questions why the out roar, to then chuckles, even Comey tweeted ( don't you just hate tweeters) "That's it?"..... was he expecting more, why? :o Release the democrats reply, you bet he will, watch. Stay tuned, get your popcorn, that chubby chick isn't even tuning up yet, maybe ;D |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by T And T Garage on 02/05/18 at 11:29:24 "the Obama administration’s abuse of power—which, when all is revealed, might yet outdo that of the Nixon administration." BWAAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAHAAAAAA!!!! Hey there ray - do you really believe this tripe? Oh yeah, of course you do... you're a democrat, right? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/05/18 at 11:51:37 Is that your admission that democrats are strictly agenda driven and can't admit to wrongdoing by leadership? |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/05/18 at 12:02:13 2F3036312C2B1A2A1A22303C77450 wrote:
have you seen what republicans are being forced to defend with Trump? girl thingy grabbing, Charlottesville, taunting North Korea, etc... and you think democrats are agenda driven, I haven't seen this level of sycophancy since well, ever. hope your face doesn't get stuck in that pursed pose, kiss @ss! |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/05/18 at 12:04:50 that article sounds delusional btw, a republican's pipe dream |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by raydawg on 02/05/18 at 12:15:27 We’ll see..... Trumps a snake, devious as all hell, I believe, and plays a different game, just like his tweets and everything else that isn’t presidential. Not a one of you will answer the question why the fever prior to releasing the memo, and afterwards. It’s like Comey was a jerk to say investigate the emails, then a great guy, back to an azz hole when he reopened it. Yeah, you libs have a lock on consistent reasoning ;D Answer the question then, why the difference? |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by T And T Garage on 02/05/18 at 12:28:23 6D7E667B7E68781F0 wrote:
Enough of the coy little "questions" you pose that you think you know the answers to. It's getting old. |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by raydawg on 02/05/18 at 12:32:21 Go back and read the news reports, it was a known fact it had to be declassified to be released, yet the scare tactics persisted, you denying that? Let’s go look at the replies here even... Find me one article written prior to its release that states we have no qualm with releasing the memo if it’s declassified, just one. |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by T And T Garage on 02/05/18 at 12:50:53 12011904011707600 wrote:
There probably aren't any. Again - The fact that it had to be declassified was one reason in and of itself. The other part was that it was (mostly) unfounded and politically biased. Which to me is funny, because the memo was trying to show bias by the democrats and it pretty much backfired. ;D Need more? Here's a quote from the FBI prior to the memo's release: "The FBI takes seriously its obligations to the FISA Court and its compliance with procedures overseen by career professionals in the Department of Justice and the FBI. We are committed to working with the appropriate oversight entities to ensure the continuing integrity of the FISA process. With regard to the House Intelligence Committee’s memorandum, the FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it. As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy." Here's a reaction after the release: "The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests – no party’s, no president’s, only Putin’s.… If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him." John McCain, Senator (R-Ariz.) |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by raydawg on 02/05/18 at 13:35:45 I am not talking about the FBI, etc.., I am talking about the democrat leadership. I even stated in another post that Rod Riberstein asked for an extension on the warrant, that had to have weight. It’s rumored too the Judge Roberts sign the warrant, he is no flake. Let’s release the democrats response, maybe that might help. |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by T And T Garage on 02/05/18 at 14:06:09 687B637E7B6D7D1A0 wrote:
No, it doesn't matter. The precedent has been set. Any "rebuttal" from the democrats will be no better than what the repubs did. It's the FBI - let them investigate for Christ's sake! |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/05/18 at 16:07:28 McCain is trash, has been for decades. |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by ruckus430 on 02/05/18 at 21:02:33 Memo's a dud face it, but go ahead keep posting how its "exposes democrat lefitst conspiracy" meanwhile Mueller will just add nunes little stunt to the obstruction of justice pile. Nunes seems awfully worried to be running around like achicken with its head cut off, its sad that when the times comes Trump will toss him under the bus with no hesitation, PS nunes didnt even read the FISA warrant application, how this idiot dairy farmer was elected is beyond me, but not above republicans standards "Only the best people folks" LOLLLL that statement did not age well. Oh yea and the dow is wayyyyy downnnnn, god I thought it couldn't get worse for you redhats. Again.... SOOOO MUCH WINNINNNG THAT YOU WONT EVEN ADMIT IT LOLLLLLLL |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by raydawg on 02/05/18 at 21:31:39 Real deep their punkin...... :-* |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/18 at 07:02:29 I don't remember the president EVER releasing such information. It's historic. It's important and hopefully, just the beginning. Gowdy said things, great. He's in a position to know. Still plenty of wrongdoing laid out for people to see.. It's not over. And where are the problems? We were TOLD people would die, it's TREEZUN, it's aWful! And it's not anything of the sort. Such drama about how injurious to operational methods. Utterly ridiculous load of BULLSHIT. |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/06/18 at 08:15:48 7A656364797E4F7F4F77656922100 wrote:
and now we are being told the same thing about the democratic memo.... |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/18 at 17:49:48 Democrats screamed about the Nunez memo. Bubs VOTED FOR releasing the democrats. Yeah, think about it |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by FormerlyLostArtist on 02/06/18 at 19:29:43 36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:
think about what??? I'd have been fine with no memo, republican or democrat. I will give republicans credit for being fair. but it would have looked laughably hypocritical of them if they vote for releasing the dem memo |
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Title: Re: Just an opening act........ Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/06/18 at 20:07:15 America needs to go through this to cleanse the corruption. This is gonna suck, but it should pay dividends for our children. |
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