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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> The Cafe >> Older newbie /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1516727530 Message started by Roy Shirley on 01/23/18 at 09:12:10 |
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Title: Older newbie Post by Roy Shirley on 01/23/18 at 09:12:10 I just signed up and need to know how to POST! Thanks, Roy |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Roy Shirley on 01/23/18 at 09:19:50 I may have just figured it out, have patience..... I'm 73 yrs old and just bought a new S40, looking forward to your feedback. I've ridden everything back in the day. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by HAPPYDAN on 01/23/18 at 09:44:11 Welcome, and - you have come to the right place. You'll find a wealth of useful info here, and pay close attention to some of the "miseries" and solutions offered - they work! |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by verslagen1 on 01/23/18 at 09:54:40 Roy, shirley you jest. ;D Welcome to the mad house. enjoy. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by IslandRoad on 01/23/18 at 10:09:25 445740415E5355575C03320 wrote:
I see what you did there ... ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Ruttly on 01/23/18 at 10:17:43 Mad House / Looney Bin Welcome Roy , you will fit right in with the rest of us old farts ! Lots of info here and members only make it better , so shoot some stupid questions at us and see how we do ! Tread lightly with oil questions ;D |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by ohiomoto on 01/23/18 at 11:19:53 4C0B0F4D50463F0 wrote:
Well, you got to tell us now. Please share some of your worst and best bikes from the past. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by IslandRoad on 01/23/18 at 11:46:05 745352524A5F260 wrote:
... and tyres! ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by batman on 01/23/18 at 12:22:48 Wow 73 ! Guess I'll have to wait 3 years to see how that feels. welcome! |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Papa Bear on 01/23/18 at 15:00:03 Welcome !! I'm 73 as well and got my S40 last year. Ride on !! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by joelite44 on 01/23/18 at 15:19:39 I am 27 and just got my first motorcycle this year, a 1997 Savage, its fun and slow but atleast its better than the gy6 i started with. Looking forward to helping in anything possible, you have entered a very service-friendly community. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Roy Shirley on 01/23/18 at 15:23:09 I am just trying to negotiate thru the site, social media is challenging for seniors. First bike was in 1962 Ohiomoto, to answer your question my first ride was a 1953 Harley "61" with foot clutch and 3 speed on the tank. Also had a 650 Triumph back when it was considered a big bike. Later a Honda Shadow......then kids/grandkids Anyone else out there from Burlington or southern Ontario? I am 60 miles from Buffalo. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Papa Bear on 01/23/18 at 15:37:46 I'm in Leamington Ontario . near Windsor |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Roy Shirley on 01/23/18 at 16:09:10 Hey Papa Bear, we could meet on either side of the border when this crazy Canuck weather clears up!! |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Papa Bear on 01/23/18 at 17:25:59 Like have a coffee in London ;) |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Tocsik on 01/23/18 at 17:36:43 Welcome Roy. I'm a little behind you in years but there's plenty of us 50+ guys here on this site. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Dave on 01/24/18 at 02:42:07 0A0F050C091405600 wrote:
We got a cure for that! ::) |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by LANCER on 01/24/18 at 02:58:29 Yep, we do have cures to help this engine perk up. Ain't this just a whole lot of fun ? ! [ch128513][ch127949][ch128526][ch128641][ch128521] , |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Roy Shirley on 01/24/18 at 08:09:37 PapaBear, London it is. Highway 3 around Lake Erie is a nice ride. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by engineer on 01/24/18 at 09:12:37 Welcome to the forum and you'll find lots of older guys here. I am about your age and bought my first bike in 1960 but there was a long period of over 30 years when I didn't ride at all. It was the S40 that got me going again about 7 years ago. Anyway, glad to see a new member. Good luck with your new bike. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by jcstokes on 01/24/18 at 10:00:42 A couple of points to note even if you are a very experienced rider. 1/ the rear brake is very prone to lock up under hard/emergency braking 2/ the stock rear tyre doesn't like tar snakes or grooved tar in the wet. At least that's my experience. Michelin rear did away with issue 2. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Papa Bear on 01/24/18 at 10:30:11 236460223F29500 wrote:
My S40 came from Hully Gully in London http://www.hullygully.com/ Randy Collins, the owner, and I worked together at Chrysler Canada in Windsor in the 1960s. We were pipefitters. We'll set up a date on a sunny day ... ;) |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Roy Shirley on 01/24/18 at 11:03:30 PapaBear, i'm retired from Ford - Go Big 3 auto companies..... |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Papa Bear on 01/24/18 at 11:14:23 St. Thomas plant? Where do you live? I'm uptown Leamington |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Roy Shirley on 01/24/18 at 11:22:51 No, OAKVILLE - home of the Edge, Flex and MKT |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by joelite44 on 01/24/18 at 15:01:36 78434E5948445F59424A47582B0 wrote:
We got a cure for that! ::)[/quote] I dont meant to sound bratty, but its not 100 km fast. Just good to cruise around the city. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by verslagen1 on 01/24/18 at 15:13:56 55505A53564B5A3F0 wrote:
We got a cure for that! ::)[/quote] I dont meant to sound bratty, but its not 100 km fast. Just good to cruise around the city. [/quote] Oh we do much better than that. but it's ok if that's what you want to do. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Roy Shirley on 01/24/18 at 17:03:53 My new S-40 did not come with the backrest. Do I need to find the old style rear fender rails to attach one? Great site, hope someone can help! |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Oldfeller on 01/24/18 at 17:05:37 Let's see ...... up on there on them narsty curvy mountain roads ...... I have beaten Ducati, BMW, Triumph, Sportster, 1200cc Sportster, various crotch rockets and a plethora of other bikes that were not very well ridden WHO COULD NOT USE THEIR UPPER END SPEED ADVANTAGE UP ON THE NC MOUNTAIN ROADS BUT WAS LIMITED TO THE FUNCTIONAL SPEED RANGES OF A MODIFIED SAVAGE SIMPLY DUE TO THE EXTREMELY CURVY ROADS. I could also do 90 mph in 4th gear on my slightly modified Savage. (could do it in third too, but didn't like the valves floating) But that was back when I was young, now that I am all old and retired and partially crippled, well ...... I ride a Barcalounger very carefully so as to not grind on the cross piece too much. ;) Catch some youngster starting a Cafe bike and buy his seat, rails, sissy bar and the works for next to nothing (he's stripping it off and throwing it away). |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Dave on 01/24/18 at 18:31:18 74717B72776A7B1E0 wrote:
Mine has been warmed up a bit.......it has been up to 101mph in 2015 and 2017 (I didn't feel the need for some reason in 2016). |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by joelite44 on 01/25/18 at 11:08:19 My Savage has had variouse owners, and a rough life (everything in Mexico seems to have, rough roads, inexperienced users) I dont feel the need to go 100 + km although I will try once I hit a road as extense as I need it to be. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by Tocsik on 01/25/18 at 14:16:13 591E1A5845532A0 wrote:
Yep, the side rails are different as are the bolt lengths. Hit up the Marketplace and look for some take-offs where someone built a bobber or otherwise didn't have use for them any longer. If you find 'em it can be a good opportunity to swap out the bolts for button head style, too. Can give you a little more room in the fender well in case you need it in the future (slightly larger tire etc). |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by springman on 01/25/18 at 14:58:39 Welcome Roy. Welcome Joe. Joe, I saw that you have 22K plus miles on the bike. Have you done the Versy cam chain tensioner mod yet? |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by batman on 01/25/18 at 17:29:00 Joelite44, By all means check the cam chain tensioner ,it could cause some very bad damage if it comes apart, and your mileage is past the point where you should be checking. A stock bike should be able to do 128-136 Km (80-85 mph) if yours wont there are some simple carb mods that would help ( idle mix screw, white spacer mod ,jetting for alt. etc.) look in the- Technical Section. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by MMRanch on 01/25/18 at 19:41:12 Joelite44, By all means check the cam chain tensioner ,it could cause some very bad damage if it comes apart, and your mileage is past the point where you should be checking You can LAY your bike down on something soft (left side) , and you don't even have to drain the oil if ya don't want to. Check to see that the fuel tank is not very full ! ;D Under that (Brake side) engine cover this is what you'll find except the stock plunger has only one hole , and the spring is "Way,Way" to strong. This is a picture of a chain with near 40,000 miles on the stock cam chain. The spring is only about 1/3 as strong as Suzuki had it and the extra hole extension is welded on. I took that over-strong spring out at an early age (4500'ish miles) so I never got the stretching that normally happens . :) Versey makes them for us and his looks better than the rigging I did . :-[ Form-a-gasket works just fine if ya know how to use it , so don't sweat it if ya tear th gasket ... but don't use "TOO" much gasket maker either . |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by joelite44 on 01/26/18 at 09:44:12 I did some research and told the guys at the shop to check this for me while they changed the oil. I dont trust them anymore so I should remove the oil and check it myself. Thanks for your concerns, I sure need to check for the cam chain tensor and buy one either new or modde'd. It's definitely on my check list but you know how those check lists goes. :o |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/26/18 at 09:48:45 A new stock tensioner won't help you. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by verslagen1 on 01/26/18 at 09:55:57 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1191167029 |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by joelite44 on 01/26/18 at 10:31:23 Ok so what is the price may I ask? |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by joelite44 on 01/26/18 at 14:24:19 Thanks everyone for worrying about my cam chain tensor. Believe me it was the first thing I read about however I dont have the money to spare just right now, I will get to it. I need to -Drain oil -Buy gasket -remove silicone added by previouse user -adapt verslavy and she should be ready, once again thanks everyone for their concerns. :P |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by verslagen1 on 01/26/18 at 14:49:28 If you just changed your oil, you can tip the bike to about a 45° angle and no oil will come out. Take a jack stand, extend it up and stick under the upper rear shock mount nut as you tip it. Done it many times. Use the clutch arm to pop the cover loose then examine which side the gasket is stuck to. Use pick and or a knife to gently pry the cover and gasket loose all the way around. Having the bike tipped over makes this easier. If you can get the cover off without breaking the gasket, save your new gasket for next time. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by joelite44 on 01/26/18 at 16:09:59 Yeah but what if silicone was used for a gasket on my motorcycle? Silicone residue will fall into the clutch box. Will I need to remove the silicone or just add more silicone to creat a gasket? This is the mess I am trying to avoid. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/26/18 at 16:33:36 Ahh the details that people share after asking for and getting advice. Dump the oil. Buy a gasket. Fix the problem. Following a moron as a mechanic sux. You have to undo the stupid. There are tiny and important oil passages in the gasket path. |
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Title: Re: Older newbie Post by MMRanch on 01/26/18 at 16:52:29 I always us Silicone , a soft brass brush on a battery drill takes it off easily. I put a thin layer on , wait 6-8 minutes , run the screws up just pass touching the two surfaces , wait 15 ish minutes , and tighten/torque --- never had a leak ! Silicone is Good ;) |
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