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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 01/09/18 at 00:26:39

Title: What does this mean to you?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/09/18 at 00:26:39

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

I've talked about the Commerce Clause several times. I couldn't understand how it was possible to read the Constitution and come to such an asinine conclusion. Now I see when they screwed up.

Title: Re: What does this mean to you?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/09/18 at 15:41:09

No
Deep Thinkers
Who want to share what They think the Commerce Clause SHOULD do?

Title: Re: What does this mean to you?
Post by verslagen1 on 01/10/18 at 09:18:58

You cannot deny that the farmer/rancher willfully disobeyed the governments orders.
The reasoning for the orders is beyond me. They claim it's price protection. They could have cooked up any number of reasons against someone and they could've just as easily ignored it as well. He had the wherewithal to take it to the supreme court speaks of different reasons then those stated.

Title: Re: What does this mean to you?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/10/18 at 09:44:19

An unconstitutional law has no right to be enforced. The farmer is denied the right to raise his own feed? Why not deny his right to raise his own food?
The government took a stance that the Commerce Clause gave them powers that aren't in the Commerce Clause in the Constitution.
The reason for that clause was to give the government a Referee position to keep one state from enacting tariffs against their neighbors.

Title: Re: What does this mean to you?
Post by verslagen1 on 01/10/18 at 10:32:07

This is as one of our members pronounce regularly an Andy Roony moment... what's the rest of the story?
The government doesn't want you to do something and we'll cook up anything that we want to keep you from doing it.
As I said, this guy has the wherewithal to take it to the highest court in the land speaks to the underlying problem.

Title: Re: What does this mean to you?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/10/18 at 10:52:21

Well, sadly, The Rest of the Story could well have been that he didn't believe that the court, being made up primarily of judges appointed By the President who was pushing that agenda didn't give him confidence in a truly honest outcome.

It was a government strong arm to force him to Buy what he could produce for himself.
In what free society does that make sense?
If he can be stopped from raising feed for his cattle because Not purchasing it was seen as
Inhibiting Trade
Why not stop him from raising food for the family?
Why not force him to hire a mechanic every time the tractor acts up?

Title: Re: What does this mean to you?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/10/18 at 11:04:46

The Commerce Clause refers to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which gives Congress the power “to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes.”.

Since amended.. and not to our benefit.

Because they choose to be heavy handed, insurance companies must be located In the state where they sell their policies. That drives costs.

I don't see any way to read it that gives the government power to stop me from creating what I need. I see power to control legislation in one state that affects trade with the others, but no control over an individual who is producing For himself, not selling into the market, so he can save money.