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Title: Lousy low-life scum Post by Steve H on 12/25/17 at 14:42:15 This morning sometime between 3 and 7:30, somebody stole my little Yamaha C3 scooter. Didn't bother the other scooters or the motorcycles or anything else that I can find. Just that. Everybody make sure you've got pictures, serial numbers and the like just for in case. It makes things a little easier. I seriously doubt I will ever see my scooter again but it's in the national stolen vehicles database just in case. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by IslandRoad on 12/26/17 at 00:14:12 Steve, that sux!! I hate thieving low-lifes. My son recently moved interstate to find work after becoming qualified as an electrician. He woke one morning soon after, not long after buying all his tools, to find someone had stolen them all. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/17 at 00:17:49 They need jalapeno soaked boot ankle deep in the a55. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by IslandRoad on 12/26/17 at 01:43:52 77686E6974734272427A68642F1D0 wrote:
What he said ^^ My boss is a real good guy, and a hard working small business owner. I've seen him not take any wages so he can pay me and the other guy at work. Last Christmas some locals broke into the shop and stole two dirt-bikes to give to their kids! We eventually got them back. They had spray painted all over them, but never ridden them (The bikes had been sitting in the showroom for a while, and the thieves couldn't figure out how to get them started). They even came into the shop three days later to buy a tyre for the bike they stole! We turned one of the recovered bikes into a 'project bike'. My job was to clean it up (tearing it down and polishing every bolt to remove the spray paint) then we sprayed the crankcase, made some custom parts, and added a sticker kit ... it came up a treat. We lost money on the job, but hey, we had fun, and we can sleep at night ... and some kid got a sweet custom pit bike. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Dave on 12/26/17 at 02:21:09 When folks steal your stuff......it really makes you feel violated. We work hard to get the things we want, are careful about not paying too much, and we scrimp and save.........then somebody feels that they can just take it from us. It is really sad. I grew up in a rural area in northern Ohio - 50 years ago when I was a kid we never locked our house or buildings, the keys were always left in our cars, and we never had anything stolen. I now live in a similar rural area, and every year or somebody will break into a neighbors house during the day and steal things. Our house sits back from the road far enough that it is not visible from the street - and we have a locked gate, an alarm system, a dog, and double locks on all the doors. There were 3 fellows that broke into the house across the street last year at 10:30 AM. They got caught as a neighbor who is a bar tender and home in the morning saw them break in and called the police, and he has a great camera with a long lens and he took photos while they were carrying stuff out. The fellows were all previous felons and had met in jail - they ended up turning in a ring of about a dozen fellows. A lot of the local thefts are related to drug addictions. Sorry for your loss......I feel bad that you got your scooter stolen on Christmas! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 12/26/17 at 06:00:03 Probably somebody else got it for a "Christmas" present! I am just a little south of you in Liberty, SC, and when I moved down here, I was shocked to know that titles (or at least MSO's (manufacturers statement of origin)) are not required to use any of these: trailers, mopeds, sport vehicles like 4-wheelers, etc. These sorts of vehicles are easy pickins Shame on whoever stole it!! Look me up sometime, maybe we could go for a ride. I like to take back roads up through western NC to the Parkway and back! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 12/26/17 at 06:02:25 655E5344555942445F575A45360 wrote:
What part of Ohio? I grew up in Canton - Football HOF! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 12/26/17 at 06:05:15 On those types of vehicles it may be worth the effort to wire in a "secret" switch - like a kill switch - that only YOU know about! Also, on my Trek bikes, I would take off the handlebar grip, and put in a protected paper with my name and address and phone number. Something that would help PROVE your ownership in the event that the ownership is under contention. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by LANCER on 12/26/17 at 06:42:42 You can also take a set of steel stamps, letters & numbers, and with a hammer stamp your last name on an under part of the frame. Most folks never look at the underside of a frame and with it stamped into the metal frame it would be much harder to remove if they did find it. Even a spot ground down in the exact location you say your name is located in would certainly be suspect. Also, be sure to write down any identification numbers on the frame & engine. They all have something. You could even carefully stamp your name on to the engine case as well. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/26/17 at 06:57:12 It's a sad commentary on American society. They steal thousands of dollars worth of stuff to get a few hundred dollars worth of drugs. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by IslandRoad on 12/26/17 at 07:25:57 The VIN had been ground off the stolen pit bikes, however: The police were able to identify one of the stolen pit bikes because the boss had 'borrowed' an engine mount bolt from one of the showroom bikes, to finish a repair on a customers bike. He told the police which bolt was missing - that was enough to get both bikes back. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Steve H on 12/27/17 at 18:07:32 I hope it is found. I do have the VIN and a bill of sale from when I got it. They guy I got it from said he will be happy to come to court and testify he sold it to me if it comes to that. I, sadly, have resigned myself to never seeing it again, though. The state will start requiring registrations on mopeds in November 2018, mostly due to the run-away moped thefts in the state. This was targeted. It was not visible from the road. They knew exactly where it was and got it and nothing else. They didn't bother the vino 10 feet away, the dirt bike 8 feet away, any of my street bikes or my other scooter. They didn't get anything else off the carport. Welders, weedeaters, etc. all still right there. They were even quiet enough to not wake the dog. He wakes me every time he starts barking and if somebody was in the yard and he knew it, he would have been having a fit. Luckily I didn't have a whole lot of money in it. . . Doesn't make me feel any better though. The cops could care less. I filed a report. They didn't even come out. Just called me and took the info over the phone. Didn't ask for pictures or identifying markings and was very surprised when I could give him the VIN. You could tell he felt he had much better things to be doing from the way he acted on the phone. I'm watching CL and several other local area for sale sites. I've got eyes all over town that know my scoot looking out for it. Local repair shops have been notified. I'll be checking the pawn shops every few days for the next couple months. They'll have to get a repalcement ignition switch or hotwire it to get it to run. When I grew up, I was like Dave. We didn't lock doors, could leave keys in the car. Nobody bothered anything. And that was less than 10 miles from here. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Dave on 12/28/17 at 03:25:23 756C6061686A6B716770666E607C60050 wrote:
I grew up in Winona, near Salem. On special date nights we would drive an hour to Canton or Youngstown......to see what the big city had to offer. With the improved roads those trips are now only 30 minute drives. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 12/28/17 at 05:11:10 655E5344555942445F575A45360 wrote:
I grew up in Winona, near Salem. On special date nights we would drive an hour to Canton or Youngstown......to see what the big city had to offer. With the improved roads those trips are now only 30 minute drives. [/quote] I know the area well. When I was a teen with my Honda, I used to ride that road over towards you (Route 62) on Fridays and Saturday evenings and hit the "restaurant row" there in Alliance. Do you remember Quaker City Dragway? I used to go there a lot. I was also a member of the Western Reserve MC club, and raced a LOT of winter Hare Scrambles there. I won a lot of them in my class, and that was my favorite place to ride along with the race just south of Canton run by Mathias who owned the BMW dealer in Dover. Did you ever go over to the Honda dealer in Canton, right there on Route 62 called Park Honda & Marine? That is where I used to work! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Dave on 12/28/17 at 05:32:01 Yes, I remember Park Honda and Marine - I had been there a few times. I worked at Action Sport Cycle in Alliance, back when Charlie Delinks and Gary Pontius were the guys in charge. Later on I worked at Salem Cycle World. There was an old strip mine across the road from Quaker City Drag Strip, and we used to ride our dirt bikes in that strip mine back in 1970-1974. I can still remember riding there one day when the ground was muddy and it was snowing - by the end of the day we were coated in mud, and the bikes must have been 100 pounds heavier from all the frozen mud stuck to the frame and wheels. My first race bike was a Yamaha DT175 that had been converted into a race bike, then I got a 1973 Suzuki TM125 and the next year got a new 1974 model. (It wasn't that hard to update when a new bike was only about $650 with the racers discount Action Sport Cycle gave me). The last time I raced a motorcycle in competition was around 1979 and it was a 4 hour hare scrambles at the Western Reserve MC Club. It was a team hare scrambles and I was riding with the owners son named Rick Fletcher - we would ride about 5 laps and then switch. I was riding an Ossa 250 Enduro and the son was riding an Ossa GP3. The enduro began to run poorly after half an hour so we ended up just riding the GP3 for most of the race. We won the 250 class - which was pretty amazing as it was his first race ever - and I never raced a 250 before and I hadn't ridden a dirt bike in 3 years as I was living in Cincinnati and going to college at the time! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 12/28/17 at 06:10:57 7D464B5C4D415A5C474F425D2E0 wrote:
Did you know a Duane Santee from the Alliance area who at one time also worked at the cycle shop? When I raced the Hare Scrambles at the Western Reserve club, circa 1966) I rode a converted Honda S90, souped up, and Duane ran a Honda 160, and Jim Locander ran a Honda 250. We all rode for Park Honda, and we all won first place in our respective classes on that one day!! I loved those days - when opponents were friendly and everybody got along with each other. I loved the time in the "clubhouse" after the race, eating chili, drinking hot chocolate, and waiting on the results of the race! Great times! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Dave on 12/28/17 at 06:21:51 It was a kinder/gentler type of racing. A couple of winters I left the TM125 at home and rode a 1969 Suzuki TS90 that I had stripped the lights and instruments from, installed knobby tires and number plates. The darn thing was nearly indestructible, and it is hard to believe that I could win hare scrambles on a bike that simple. In one race down in Malvern the right handlebar broke down by the clamp and the only thing holding it on was the cross brace that went between the left and right side of the handlebars. I rode the last 3 or 4 laps riding as fast as I could while using my left arm to steer the bike - while only using the right side to control the throttle and front brake. The thing managed to stay together and I was able to hold onto the win in the 100cc class. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 12/28/17 at 06:38:15 4A717C6B7A766D6B7078756A190 wrote:
Your racing experience sounded like mine. I rode that Honda Super 90 for several years and it never failed me. I did manage to stall it in a pretty deep mud hole, worked it out, pushed it up the hill and bump started it down the other side. Started right up - I won the race. A few years back, on my BMW, I rode over to the Western Reserve club - still there. I also rode down to the Mathias Raceway (just south of Dover) which was a great place, too, and it is no longer there. Small building is still visible. Mathias himself, as I understand it, closed up the Dover business or sold it, moved to Fla. then moved back and opened up a mc repair shop. At that shop, he bored out for me the cylinders of my 1968 BMW R50 (this was around 1982), and I haven't heard since from him. I went to college in 1969 and graduated in 1974 so I was out of the motorcycle scene during that time. Around 1976, I had a Hodaka 250cc "Thunderdog" which was one of the best 2-stroke bikes I ever owned - lots of low end torque and a great handler. I was married at the time and we had a little baby girl. I tried running a hare scrambles (around August) down about 60 miles south of Canton and I was shocked at how hare scrambles had changed. It was dog eat dog and very dangerous because of that! I decided my daughter needed a Dad more than I needed to race with those kinds of people. Never raced again! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Ruttly on 12/28/17 at 06:38:22 I really miss racing cross country,hare scrambles,flat track,enduros and especially the New Years Day Marathon with a hangover , oh what fun it was ! Life feels incomplete without racing,I was good , maybe not great , but I was dam good ! :( |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 12/28/17 at 07:01:16 1E39383820354C0 wrote:
I wasn't great either. I always had a problem with weight - I was chunky so I never was good at any racing except Hare Scrambles - especially ones in the winter because I had a lot of endurance and I never stopped during the 4 hour races. First time out, I didn't win anything, second time I took 3rd place (100cc class), next time 2nd place and next time 1st place. I went on to win 1st place in all the races after that - about 2 years worth! I loved it too!! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by SALB on 12/28/17 at 11:28:51 You might monitor the forum, as well. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/c3riders/ |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Steve H on 12/31/17 at 12:46:30 Got my scooter back yesterday. It's now rattle-can flat black. The ignition switch is destroyed, locking gas cap has been pried off and a car cap apparantlly driven on with a hammer, probably have to replace the tank too, lock for underseat storage is missing. The ignition has been straightwired to a toggle switch. I haven't taken the front apart to see what sort of a mess the wiring is. Idiot even left the toggle switch hanging out the bottom down by the front wheel just waiting to get caught in the wheel. Just the locking bits that need to be replaced are almost $200. If I can't get the rattle can paint off the body panels without messing them up, I either will have to paint it properly or replace the body panels. Either way, expensive. The body panels are around $300. Paint will probably be over $200 if I take the body panels to the painter. Still runs great though and hasn't been wrecked. The guy who bought it off the thief took it to a local moped service guy who I had already alerted about it to have the messed up ignition switch and missing locks fixed. He told the guy sorry, it's stolen, you can either leave it here and I will contact the owner to come get it or I can call the police and they will contact the owner and you can explain why you have it to them. The guy and his friends jumped in their car and said something along the lines of we gonna go get the money back and beat the sh** out of him for selling me something stolen. I hope they beat him 'til he could barely move. From what they told the repair guy, he lives somewhere over in the area close to me. If I find out who it is, I might have to go have a nice little talk with him about the $500 he owes me for repairs and if he 'falls down' a few times while we are conversating, big deal. This incident also pushed me to go ahead and upgrade my video surveilance system to something from this century. My old camera didn't have night vision and was probably almost 20 years old. I went and bought a nice new high-def system with 100 ft night vision and 4 camera instead of one. Now I can see everything going on in the yard just like it was day and during the day, the camera is color too. I really didn't have the money to spend this close to Christmas and cold winter...but if anything else comes up missing, I'll have good video of who did it to give the cops. I also put up a driveway entry sensor so if anybody comes in the driveway, I'll know. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/31/17 at 13:24:49 . I went and bought a nice new high-def system with 100 ft night vision and 4 camera instead of one. Did you buy from a brick and mortar store or out of the trunk of Cadillac? |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Dave on 01/01/18 at 03:26:24 I am happy you got your scooter back - not so happy that the crooks are getting off so easily. It would have been so much better if the Police would have been able to charge the person(s) that stole it from you. They will just continue stealing these things until they are caught, and they might even come back for yours again.....perhaps you need some form of alarm on your bikes. For the rattle can primer - you could try some different solvents and see if you can find one that will dissolve the primer and not hurt the original paint - if the factory paint is a 2K it will be pretty tough. Start out with an enamel reducer and see if you have any luck. Buffing is also possible - but it will be hard to get into the creases. The other damaged lock and fuel tank/cap parts may be available used on eBay. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 01/01/18 at 06:27:38 When you go "talk" to the guy, be sure to carry your persuader, your Glock 9mm! Just in case . . . In your excursions with scooters, do you know of any place that is a boneyard for scooters that may have a good seat that is pretty flat and long? I saw a scooter the other day that had something that would work for me, but I don't know of a good place to start looking for a used one in good shape. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by LANCER on 01/01/18 at 15:04:37 Let the police handle this, you don't need to carry your Glock away from your home in pursuit of the thief, and get yourself arrested on a felony for trying to get even...especially if he or someone else were to be killed, then it would be for life. It is not worth it. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/01/18 at 15:28:08 Read Lancers post twice. Accept it as wisdom. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by IslandRoad on 01/02/18 at 02:35:29 272A25282E39797C4B0 wrote:
What he said ^ Don't stoop to their level. They'll go on and do what they do. You'll go on and do what you do. I'm glad to here you got the bike back. I spent hours turning a stolen bike , that we recovered, into something special. We will never get the money, or time back, but the rewards on the project can't be paid for anyway. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by piedmontbuckeye on 01/03/18 at 13:12:05 Just to clarify my above comment. I was not suggesting shooting the person, but to be sure to carry just in case you need protection! |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/04/18 at 12:15:52 IDK where they are, but in Texas,, if someone shows up at my location and challenges me, and I wind up shot, that's not going down as self defense. Leave it alone.. Or take an off duty cop. But don't go alone. You'll look like the aggressor, even IF you went to talk, but were afraid, and carried a weapon. You're not the daddy, you're not going to change the bad guy, so you need to steer clear. |
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Title: Re: Lousy low-life scum Post by Steve H on 01/04/18 at 17:21:03 I have no intention of going hunting him. Just sayin if I run across him somewhere... The cops could absolutely care less about a stolen scooter. It was made very clear by the complete lack of concern shown by the cop that took the report. I will probably never find out who it was unless he shows up at my house again. The video surveilance system came from a brick and mortar and had many good reviews. It sees great at night. I can see across the road and into the front edge of the neighbor's yard over there so I've got no problem getting anything happening in my yard. I see everything in the yard just like it's day but a black and white camera. I also got a driveway entry alarm and placed it so that nothing going up and down the road will trigger it. If anything comes in the driveway it goes off when they are just a couple feet off the road. It's ridiculous to have to tie up a bunch of money and time in stuff like this just to try to help protect your stuff that is in your own yard or carport I don't really think he'll be back. He knows by now that I got the bike back. He knows he was caught a few weeks before wandering around the yard and trying to steal my welder off the carport. If he's got any sense, he should be aware that I'll be waiting for him if he does come back. Now I'm just waiting for it to get warm enough outside for me to see for sure what kind of damage was done to the wiring and tank. If I have to paint it, I think I might paint it the old mopar muscle car lemon-twist yellow and have some airbrushing done on it. The factory paint is hard as a rock and very shiny so it's probably cleared. I hope I can just get the rattle can junk off. |
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