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Message started by AlexW on 11/05/17 at 09:35:06

Title: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by AlexW on 11/05/17 at 09:35:06

Hey folks,

Planning a brake line upgrade to braided steel (almost certainly from HEL) - but they only list a kit for the Savage (up to '98), not the S40 (which I have, from 2012). Is there any meaningful difference between the two models which means the Savage kit wouldn't work on an S40?

Is there anything else to bear in mind (fittings not 'fitting', etc)?

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by badwolf on 11/05/17 at 09:58:00

The handlebars are different, so the brake line would be a different length. Someone here must have changed bars and can tell you if the early brake line for the ''buckhorn'' bars will work with the current ''drag'' bars. I would think the early one would be slightly longer.

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/05/17 at 10:26:41

Calipers and master cylinders are the same, so length is the only issue.
Contact HEL and see if they have the shorter one. Might be smart to find out how long each brake line is from Suzuki first.

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by verslagen1 on 11/05/17 at 11:42:34

the difference is only an inch or two in length.
easily taken up in routing.

early drag bars had a different master, but I believe all later models have the same master.

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/05/17 at 11:53:25

Thanks for stepping in. I didn't know that.

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by savageguy1 on 11/05/17 at 12:59:38

GO to revival cycles.com they have a great brake line kit but you must buy the two banjo fittings separately

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by eau de sauvage on 11/06/17 at 00:37:33

You might have a local HEL dealer nearby, they'll prepare whatever you need on the spot, or maybe come back next day.

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by Sarge on 11/06/17 at 06:30:34

I changed handlebars from buckhorn to S40 flat bars on my 2003. Verslagen1 is correct, the extra length was easily taken up by cable routing. ;)

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by Dave on 11/06/17 at 08:45:46

I bought my braided front brake line from Venhill USA. It is incredibly well built - you choose the length, color and end fittings.

http://www.venhillusa.com/

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by AlexW on 11/07/17 at 09:19:15

That Venhill option looks very convenient. I like the idea of pre-built things.

I assume I'd need single-length bolts, but should they be 10mm x 1.00 or 10mm by 1.25 to fit correctly? (If it even matters? My knowledge of brake lines is limited to fluid physics, not parts engineering!)

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by verslagen1 on 11/07/17 at 09:31:16

brake banjo bolts are M10x1.25
the lengths are standard, just order a "single"
new copper washers would be good, 2 per banjo.

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by AlexW on 11/07/17 at 09:49:40

Awesome. Thanks.

Title: Re: HEL brake line on an S40
Post by Dave on 11/07/17 at 10:31:52

I should have provided the link to the "custom" page...where you pick your color, length and fittings. I bought the black, and the coating on the brake line looks nice and durable, and it doesn't scratch things that it bumps up against.
http://www.venhillusa.com/make-your-own-custom-brake-line-1.html