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Title: New battery! Post by piedmontbuckeye on 11/03/17 at 08:44:53 FYI - Just a heads up to others. I purchased my used Suzuki about a year ago and did have a few problems starting when cold (around 40 deg.) but I thought it was just my technique getting used to the bike. It only did this about 3 or 4 times and only when down low about 40 degrees. I even made sure the battery was fully charged. What I didn't know that even when charged, the battery was producing lower and lower amperage as it got older and thus lower cranking speed! Yesterday, I purchased a new battery, and WOW, what a difference! It actually cranks the engine over about 2x the speed that the original battery did. I expect that this should solve my starting issues when cold. |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by SALB on 11/03/17 at 10:28:44 They say a battery has lost about 20% of its cranking capacity at 32 degrees, where CCA are measured. Oil weight is also a consideration, as it gets thicker. I was going try T6 this winter because of its 5W winter rating, but now its under scrutiny. :-/ |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by zipidachimp on 11/03/17 at 13:00:08 is this new battery wet, gel or agm ? I bought a wet cell last year and charge it off the bike at least twice a season. gel or agm may have better performance. 8-) |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by verslagen1 on 11/03/17 at 13:03:21 The winter rating is measured at some god awful -temp that no self respecting cyclist would ride in. There is no specified room temp pour rating that most oils are relatively the same. |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by piedmontbuckeye on 11/03/17 at 14:09:32 20232034222A24410 wrote:
------------ BTW, I found out via an email to Pennzoil (they have a new natural-gas based oil that is supposed to be the greatest since cotton candy) who is now owned by Shell that the T6 is also based upon the same natural-gas base. That is what I am switching to! |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by piedmontbuckeye on 11/03/17 at 14:20:28 My bike would crank at the same speed (pretty slow as compared to my current new battery) but would "run out of gas" much earlier in the cold weather. This new one really cranks it over. Got up this morning (about 55 deg) which was pretty warm compared to the 40-45 degrees of last week ad the bike cranked and almost instantly started. |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by SALB on 11/03/17 at 14:37:29 5F464A4B4240415B4D5A4C444A564A2F0 wrote:
------------ BTW, I found out via an email to Pennzoil (they have a new natural-gas based oil that is supposed to be the greatest since cotton candy) who is now owned by Shell that the T6 is also based upon the same natural-gas base. That is what I am switching to! [/quote] Most all synthetics use a natural gas base anymore. The problem with the new T6 was the possibility of too much moly and not being wet clutch friendly anymore. Still waiting for more clarification before I go ahead. :-/ |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by piedmontbuckeye on 11/03/17 at 15:07:50 7F7C7F6B7D757B1E0 wrote:
------------ BTW, I found out via an email to Pennzoil (they have a new natural-gas based oil that is supposed to be the greatest since cotton candy) who is now owned by Shell that the T6 is also based upon the same natural-gas base. That is what I am switching to! [/quote] Most all synthetics use a natural gas base anymore. The problem with the new T6 was the possibility of too much moly and not being wet clutch friendly anymore. Still waiting for more clarification before I go ahead. :-/[/quote] ============= I don't think that is true - that most synthetics are based on Natural Gas - only ones I know are the T6 & the Pennzoil. This is relatively new for sythetics. But, I could be wrong! According to the Pennzoil/Shell tech, the Shell IS acceptable for wet clutches AND has a high ZDDP level (2,000 ppm as I remember). |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by Dave on 11/03/17 at 17:09:31 Nope.....not 2,000 ppm ZDDP - it is 1,200 ppm ZDDP. |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by JLC on 11/03/17 at 19:01:21 Yes, 1200, which is good, right? 2000 would be too much. |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by piedmontbuckeye on 11/04/17 at 14:55:22 12292433222E353328202D32410 wrote:
Yup. You are correct, 1,200 it was. I remember now that I hear the correct number. |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by Dave on 11/05/17 at 03:40:43 Use of oil with more than 1,400 ppm of ZDDP is supposed to do long term damage in an engine. I am beginning to believe that for those of us who are boosting the 1,200 ppm up to 1,400 ppm - maybe the extra ZDDP additive should not be added immediately.....perhaps it would be better to wait until somewhere in in the middle of the oil change interval. |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by piedmontbuckeye on 11/05/17 at 05:00:52 13282532232F343229212C33400 wrote:
============== Sounds right. Especially if there is a breakdown over time, adding it later will put fresh in in the middle of the oil changes. |
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Title: Re: New battery! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/05/17 at 07:48:37 Multigrade oils drop in viscosity when cold. |
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