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Message started by Garry on 10/30/17 at 15:20:53

Title: Cam chain comparability.
Post by Garry on 10/30/17 at 15:20:53

Borg Warner advertise a cam chain with a joiner setup for the 1986 - 1989 Savage. Is this the same chain that is fitted to current models? The joiner setup is really just two pins that go through the sheaves of the link and are then peened over.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/30/17 at 15:46:35

Not saying it Won't work, but nobody has tried it.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by Dave on 10/30/17 at 17:25:36

I would imagine the ends of the pins are spun over....same as we did when taking bulk saw chain and making it into specific size chains.

I suppose you could peen it over (I have done when I got a good deal on some new chain and needed to shorten it) - but it might be a bit hard to get the job done with the engine still in the frame.

The best chain deal is to buy a new Nitrided one from Lancer.  I believe they are Borg Warner chains.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 11/02/17 at 05:16:28


645F5245545843455E565B44370 wrote:
I would imagine the ends of the pins are spun over....same as we did when taking bulk saw chain and making it into specific size chains.

The best chain deal is to buy a new Nitrided one from Lancer.  I believe they are Borg Warner chains.


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I will someday need another chain, so do you have Lancer's contact info?  A web site?  And...cost?  While replacing chain what other items should be replaced?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by Dave on 11/02/17 at 06:08:23

You can find Lancer's stuff in the Marketplace section.

Here is a link to the camchain thread:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1455475035

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by LANCER on 11/02/17 at 07:14:44


667F73727B7978627463757D736F73160 wrote:
[quote author=645F5245545843455E565B44370 link=1509402053/0#2 date=1509409536]I would imagine the ends of the pins are spun over....same as we did when taking bulk saw chain and making it into specific size chains.

The best chain deal is to buy a new Nitrided one from Lancer.  I believe they are Borg Warner chains.


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I will someday need another chain, so do you have Lancer's contact info?  A web site?  And...cost?  While replacing chain what other items should be replaced?

Thanks!
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If you have not done so already I would suggest that you also replace the stock tensioner with the one modified by Verslagen.  It can save your engine from self destruction.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/02/17 at 07:48:42

And you'll get more service life from the chain.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by mpescatori on 11/02/17 at 08:12:21

What about tensioner shoes?

They are not on catalogue anymore; where (else) can I find a pair?

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by LANCER on 11/02/17 at 08:52:57


475A4F59494B5E4558432A0 wrote:
What about tensioner shoes ???

They are not on catalogue anymore; where (else) can I find a pair?


Are you referring to #2 &3 ?
http://https://cdn1.bikebandit-images.com/schematics/schematics/suzuki/suz012/su0209054003.gif

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by Dave on 11/02/17 at 09:16:02


2B36233525273229342F460 wrote:
What about tensioner shoes?

They are not on catalogue anymore; where (else) can I find a pair?


All the engine parts from the new bike fit the older bikes - so when you can't find a part listed in the old parts lists........look at a list for a newer model.  The only things that don't interchange are the 4 speed transmission parts to the 5 speed model, the starter torque limiter with the early left side engine cover, and early charging/rotor/stator/wiring systems.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by mpescatori on 11/03/17 at 02:31:01

Lancer: yes, #2 and #3.

Dave, the Savage went out the window of Suzuki dealerships the day EU legislation enforced EFI on all motorcycles.

The Savage sold in such low numbers they simply pulled it off the list.

Too recent to qualify as "vintage", too old to qualify as "OEM spares".

:P :-[ :-/

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by Dave on 11/03/17 at 02:52:51


2C3124322220352E3328410 wrote:
Dave, the Savage went out the window of Suzuki dealerships the day EU legislation enforced EFI on all motorcycles.


You may need to find an online parts supplier that will ship to you - or get the parts when you visit the US and put them in your suitcase.......or get a nice forum member to buy them and ship them to you.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by LANCER on 11/03/17 at 03:34:04


514C594F5F5D48534E553C0 wrote:
Lancer: yes, #2 and #3.

Dave, the Savage went out the window of Suzuki dealerships the day EU legislation enforced EFI on all motorcycles.

The Savage sold in such low numbers they simply pulled it off the list.

Too recent to qualify as "vintage", too old to qualify as "OEM spares".

:P :-[ :-/


Will be happy to get them for you and ship them to you.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/03/17 at 06:44:55

Christmas is coming,, doesn't Hafta look like a VAT target..
Or do you have to pay for everything?

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by piedmontbuckeye on 11/03/17 at 08:32:02



I will someday need another chain, so do you have Lancer's contact info?  A web site?  And...cost?  While replacing chain what other items should be replaced?

Thanks!
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If you have not done so already I would suggest that you also replace the stock tensioner with the one modified by Verslagen.  It can save your engine from self destruction.[/quote]

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I already have a modified tensioner on my bike - I did the machine work myself on a brand new one.  It has been in now for over 4,500 miles.  Seems to work OK.  I will take off side cover next Spring/Summer to check on it.

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by mpescatori on 11/06/17 at 00:20:39

I already have the Versy Mk1, thank you  :)

I recently bought a 17" off a DR750 and am looking for a 19" front wheel with a big bad drum brake.

I found a URAL front wheel (and discussed it on this Forum) but it's expensive to buy and to ship from Russia (where else?) and don't want to buy an unusable item...

Title: Re: Cam chain comparability.
Post by batman on 11/06/17 at 14:33:05

Well the Ural's just a copy of an old BMW ,why not try to find something used ,a bit closer to home?(Germany)

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