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Message started by Skip86 on 10/03/17 at 15:24:01

Title: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/03/17 at 15:24:01

I still have my 86 Savage,but its timing chain time... Where's the best chain? The suzuki place here said a chain with a connecting link,I think they're mistaken... Want to do the verslavy mod also,how much? Thanks :)

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by verslagen1 on 10/03/17 at 15:31:21

not roller link chain... it's a continuous silent chain.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1180206459

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/03/17 at 15:56:23

I haven't been on in awhile,but how do i get a a tensioner mod done? The suzuki dealer locally keeps trying to get me to buy some timing chain that has a master link... Guides are supposed to be $40 each... Thanks

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by verslagen1 on 10/03/17 at 18:39:49

this is what our chain looks like...
http://www.ls-650.de/techfotos/steuerketten.jpg

I've given you links, click on them.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/04/17 at 07:17:01

I did,emailed you,Thanks :)

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/05/17 at 18:25:06

Hey,can you pm or email me? Need your services,tried to email you via the button but it didn't work for me... Thanks

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/17 at 18:28:22

Get

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/17 at 18:28:45

Ten

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/17 at 18:29:06

Posts

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/06/17 at 07:28:13

Eye

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/06/17 at 07:34:09

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/06/17 at 07:34:31

Trying

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/17 at 07:36:51

Try

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/17 at 07:37:22

Some

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/17 at 07:37:52

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/06/17 at 07:39:04

this

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/06/17 at 07:39:23

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Skip86 on 10/06/17 at 07:39:43

dumb

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/17 at 11:45:56

But now you have ten posts.
Try to message someone.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by stewmills on 10/06/17 at 11:52:36

152D2F367E70460 wrote:

dumb

Yeah, it is cumbersome, but of you manage a website or a message board you can appreciate it. It greatly minimizes SPAM and other bots (not Serowbots) from sending massive amounts of SPAM messages to all of us.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Dave on 10/06/17 at 11:53:51

033B39206866500 wrote:

dumb

Don't get snippy Skippy........I can delete a few of your posts and knock you back down to 9! ;)

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by verslagen1 on 10/06/17 at 12:25:29

637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 wrote:

But now you have ten posts.
Try to message someone.

he did... successfully.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Northwood on 02/13/18 at 05:26:12

Hi guys.

I just recieved a new cam chain. I thought it was endless, but it appears to have a rivet link.
A final chain is easy, it has a stop on the pins so you cant overdo it. This one doesn't.
Any suggestions on how to assemble it so it wont bind?

The engine head is apart.

Thanks,

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Dave on 02/13/18 at 05:55:23

I know nothing about how to spin a cam chain rivet properly....without a tool.

I suggest you send it back to where you got it.....and buy a nitrided chain from Lancer.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1455475035

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Northwood on 02/13/18 at 11:48:13

12292433222E353328202D32410 wrote:

The chain is from DID. Sending it back will cost $20-25.
Purchasing a chain in US will be too expensive. Lets say double up :O

I hope someone will chime in with a good idea :)

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by verslagen1 on 02/13/18 at 12:04:00

Is it possible they sent you the wrong chain?
Our chain is a "silent chain" not a roller link chain.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by ohiomoto on 02/13/18 at 12:07:58

They make tools similar to what you would use to install a press fit master link on a bicycle. The tool has a block in the middle to keep the plates from binding when you press the pin in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRXFBiqFTWI

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Northwood on 02/13/18 at 12:22:52

687B6C6D727F797B702F1E0 wrote:

Is it possible they sent you the wrong chain?
Our chain is a "silent chain" not a roller link chain.

The chain is ok. Like this
http://www.mpsracing.com/images/products/Suzuki/cam_chain1.jpg
And a link like this
http://images.wemoto.com/full/CHAIN_CAM_LINK/10026318.jpg

Will it be ok to assemble the chain and tap the pins gently with a hammer?
I can also insert a thin, removable shim between two of the plates. Like a valve gauge blade.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by ohiomoto on 02/13/18 at 12:30:16

Probably not a hammer. You want to get some sort of a chain press or chain crimper. Or maybe use a vise in some fashion to press the link in before you install the chain.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/13/18 at 12:36:21

The cost of a chain failure would make the cost of getting the right chain would be something to consider.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Northwood on 02/13/18 at 13:22:47

The other links are riveted like a normal final chain. A dent (lack of vocabulary) on each side of the pin end.
https://www.japbikespares.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/o/honda-xr350r-83-86-forseti-hy-vo-cam-chain-82rh-2015-108l-camshaft-timing-02.551.jpg
Could be made on my chain with a hammer.

Of course it should be done properly, thats why I ask these questions ;)
And this is the right chain - but with a link.

Title: Re: Timing Chain Time
Post by Northwood on 02/14/18 at 15:40:28

The operation was performed today with no complications at all.
The patient survived and are doing fine.

It really was no big deal.
I assembled the link.
Pressed the side plate onto the pins with blows from a hammer.
Placed a nut on top so I could countersink the plate.
Hit both side of each pin with a hammer and a mandrel.
Done!

Guess which link is the one ;)