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Message started by MnSpring on 09/26/17 at 18:29:20

Title: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by MnSpring on 09/26/17 at 18:29:20

Lets see:
A City, can, Violate   A, Federal, ‘LAW’, and become a, Sanctuary  City.
      Nothing happens.
A  State can, Violate   A, Federal, ‘LAW’, and become a, Sanctuary  State.
     Nothing happens.
A  City/State can, Violate   A, Federal, ‘LAW’, and and allow,  NON   CITIZENS  to Vote.
     Nothing Happens.
A  City/County, can  Violate   A, Federal, ‘LAW’, and and allow, ‘BLM', to  BLOCK   TRAFFIC.
     Nothing happens.
The, NFL, can, Violate  their OWN  RULE:
The specific rule pertaining to the national anthem is found on pages A62-63 of the league rulebook. It states:
"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
"During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and  refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”


http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/09/26/anyone-checked-actual-rule-anthem-nfls-game-operations-manual-specific-540864

YET if I,  walked into a supermarket,
and put 5 pounds of hamburger in my cart,
and put it in my car,  WITHOUT  PAYING for it.
 
  What would Happen ?????????????


Question for the:
“Snowflake, Kum-By-You, Progressive, Fairy Dust  Sprinkling, Socialists”.

(Just  guessing, the, “Snowflake, Kum-By-You, Progressive, Fairy Dust  Sprinkling, Socialists”, ALL   Believe, they have,  MORE,  Rights/Privileges, than everyone else !)



Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Eegore on 09/27/17 at 07:01:24

 You mean to tell me that national policy and your hamburger theft could be handled the same way?

 Just the first sentence about sanctuary cities is wrong. "Nothing Happens"  Nothing?  No proposed reduction in funding?  No states enact legislation:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/08/lawmaker-introduces-tennessee-sanctuary-city-ban/97166104/

 Theres literally hundreds of proposed options to dealing with sanctuary cities alone, and none of those issues are as easy as charging one person for stealing hamburger.

 Some problems are larger than yours.

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Trippah on 09/27/17 at 07:24:40

Sorry, I just dropped in.....but no, this is not in the 2017 NFL Rule book.
Don't know about previous editions. ;)

This quote re A62-63 is an example of "false news."

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Serowbot on 09/27/17 at 08:06:18


74524950504148200 wrote:
This quote re A62-63 is an example of "false news."

Don't try to jumble this up with facts,.. he's on a roll... ;D

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by MnSpring on 09/27/17 at 09:56:53


1B3D263F3F2E274F0 wrote:
Sorry, I just dropped in.....but no, this is not in the 2017 NFL Rule book.  Don't know about previous editions. ;)  
This quote re A62-63 is an example of "false news."

OK, As to the NFL Rule book.
Someone sent me that link, and I posted it.

NFL football, is not a high priority thing, on my list of things to do.
So I posted it, with out checking it out totally.
 (Don’t have a copy of current or past rule books)
 And you saying it is false, I’ll take your word for it.
Because I  am trusting that,
You, know a heck of a lot more about NFL football than I do.

I suppose it would be like someone posting
A  ‘error’, in saying, “Anyone can get a Gun Anytime and Anywhere”.
          Which would also be false.

Trippah  Let me ask, (cause I don’t know)
 It it True, that two owners of NFL teams, have said essentially the same things ?


Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by MnSpring on 09/27/17 at 10:01:18


6747454D5047220 wrote:
 You mean to tell me that national policy and your hamburger theft could be handled the same way?    Just the first sentence about sanctuary cities is wrong. "Nothing Happens"  Nothing?  No proposed reduction in funding?  No states enact legislation:  http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/08/lawmaker-introduces-tennessee-sanctuary-city-ban/97166104/    Theres literally hundreds of proposed options to dealing with sanctuary cities alone, and none of those issues are as easy as charging one person for stealing hamburger.    Some problems are larger than yours.


Well, they certainly could be,  Just as  Easy.

And as to, people, Cutting  a Fence, Blocking Traffic, without any  PERMITS  of any kind.
IS, Just as simple, as dealing, with someone not paying for their hamburger.
(Well unless someone, was told, NOT  to do it)

And can be, proactive, as to, having to show a valid, ‘Enhanced”  or, ‘Real-ID’, D.L., to Vote.
 (Now that Minn will have the, ‘Enhanced”  or, ‘Real-ID’, DL, which requires proof of one being a Citizen, to get)
  Instead of a copy, of a Cable  T.V. Bill.

The, ‘Right Now’, could be Just like the, ‘Right Now’,  when Police regularly  recruit, nubile, well endowed, scantily dressed, attractive females, just under 18, to buy cigarettes from a mart-mart. Or just under 21, to buy beer.


Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by MnSpring on 09/27/17 at 10:17:32


3620372A32272A31450 wrote:
[quote author=74524950504148200 link=1506475761/0#2 date=1506522280] This quote re A62-63 is an example of "false news."
Don't try to jumble this up with facts,.. he's on a roll... ;D[/quote]

Interesting Parallel here.
I was told something about NFL Football.
Which, I am finding now, is apparently not true.
Hey, I got stung, by not checking out something.

Could that be the same as,
H.R.C., and her supporters,  saying:   (Paraphrasing)
 “Buying a gun from anywhere, is just as easy as buying a tea cup off, flee-bay”?

Well, guess not really.
Because, I will not say again, what a, ‘rule’, in the NFL is, unless a I have a, verified, copy of the ‘book’ in front of me.

Yet,   “Buying a gun from anywhere, is just as easy as buying a tea cup off, flee-bay”.
Is repeated, and repeated, and repeated !

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by raydawg on 09/27/17 at 11:55:18

Go fishing buddy......

The stupidity of the media, and all those sheep who tag along both sides of the trail....
Are just running themselves in circles.

Don't be a sheep, I know, even tho they are wrong, yada,yada, yada.....
They are hoping you feel that way, makes it easier to fool all the sheep, and avoid detection of themselves.

12 months from now, nothing really will have changed, well, maybe my panties.....

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Eegore on 09/27/17 at 16:37:56

"Well, they certainly could be,  Just as  Easy"

 I will have to disagree there.  I do not believe shoplifting and national policy can be resolved in equal and "just as easy" methods.

 I think policy that affects millions of people is different, and should be handled differently than stolen hamburger.

 If a crowd of 100 people block traffic I believe it would take different resources to address and prosecute than a single person stealing hamburger  I believe it would take more law enforcement and would involve a longer commitment of judicial personnel.  

 I believe the simplicity of a shoplifter is less complex for all involved, including victims than a crowd cutting down fences.

 But it doesn't matter because after all of these demonstrations "Nothing" has happened just like nothing happened about sanctuary cities.  That article I posted about TN is "nothing".  It never happened.

 National Policy is equal to shoplifting?

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by MnSpring on 09/29/17 at 18:03:12

So a Clerk in  a Police Station, answers the Phone.
“INS Calling, We understand  you arrested,  Joe Blow, we have been looking for him, what are the details”.
Clerk:  “He will be arraigned, and most likely get out on Bail. We let them out at 2PM”
INS:  ‘We will be their then”.
  INS  gets their at 1.45PM, checks in, and is told:  “Oh He was released at 10AM”.
 (Anyone can make a error or misjudgment)
Then the same thing happen again,  ????????????
The third time it happens:
    Your  FRIED, and GO TO JAIL.

Just like, Kim Davis was  Sentence, and PUT IN JAIL.
For, Believing/Following, her   RELIGIOUS   Beliefs !
     (From TWO of the favorite, ’Snowflake’, ’news’  sites)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/politics/kentucky-clerk-same-sex-marriage-kim-davis/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/defiant-kentucky-clerk-could-be-found-in-contempt-thursday/2015/09/03/34e50f08-51af-11e5-9812-92d5948a40f8_story.html?utm_term=.78956b0eb231

(And just for  the, ’Snowflakes’, this is Not a statement, about right/wrong, it is a statement about, DISPARITY.   The, “the Snowflakes’, say: Their way is Correct, Your way is  WRONG)


So their ya go, on a,  ’Sanctuary City’,   My POV.

Yep, it, CAN  BE  DONE !


 Now look at the 100  People, Vandalizing Property, Blocking a Freeway, also Violating No  Pedestrians allowed on a Freeway.
  vs  the 1, steeling Hamburger.

The One, steeling Hamburger, will take 2 Cops, and 2 Cars,  (Maybe  4 cops depending on where you live)
So that is,  2 Cars 2 Cops.  For  ONE, person.

Now the, 100, of  (No Permit, Spontaneous,  ‘Protesters’)
Lets, see  10, Paddy Wagons, Holding 10 each,
10 Cops to drive them, and 20 Cops to arrest and put in to the Paddy Wagons.
So  30 Cops, and 20 Cars/10 Paddy wagons. _ 30 Cops  30 Cars/wagons.
For 100  People ?????    (You do the math)

Now, to Further that. The 2 cops, 2 cars, for the ONE  Hamburger Theft.
           Results in ‘Fines’, and ‘Restitution’.
Yet the 100, ‘Protesters’,  (Which required a  LOT  MORE  THAN 60 Cops/Vehicles)
   Resulted in,  ???????????      
  (Nothing DONE, cause  Gov,  ‘GOOFIE’, Said So !)


It, Could Be  Done, Just as Easy.  

 (UNLESS, someone did not have, ’Special’  PRIVILEGES !)

On the NFL,  Yep  I was wrong it was NOT, a, ‘RULE’,
  It is a,  “Code of  Conduct”,
Which a Person who gets a,  44  MILLION  Dollars,  YEARLY, Salary,
  Chooses to do,  Nothing About.

Do wonder though, all the,
    ‘I  am Wrong’, debate.
  NO ONE, has said a  word about,
  “One can Vote, without  ANY   Proof of  Citizenship”.



Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Eegore on 10/04/17 at 16:03:40


 I still don't see how adding up the number of law enforcement needed to handle 100 people versus one hamburger thief equals National Policy being the same as shoplifting.

 I think there's a ton more at stake and more people involved with national policy than I do with hamburger theft, no matter how many paddy wagons you want to add into the equation.

 Many people were arrested during demonstrations but that is "nothing"?  Nothing was done, they were allowed to destroy property and not one person anywhere enforced law?  Every person that broke the law during demonstrations was allowed to without any repercussion?

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/04/17 at 16:58:37

Wouldn't you want a Patty wagon if you arrested a hamburger thief? Then you haul him downtown and Grill him, right?
I don't think we can reasonably have a conversation about such diverse ideas and try to equate them in the logistics of how to cope with them. A riot is a little different thing to handle than a poor person snagging a pound of meat.

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by MnSpring on 10/04/17 at 19:07:48


4A6A68607D6A0F0 wrote:
   I still don't see how adding up the number of law enforcement needed to handle 100 people versus one hamburger thief equals National Policy being the same as shoplifting.    I think there's a ton more at stake and more people involved with national policy than I do with hamburger theft, no matter how many paddy wagons you want to add into the equation.     Many people were arrested during demonstrations but that is "nothing"?  Nothing was done, they were allowed to destroy property and not one person anywhere enforced law?  Every person that broke the law during demonstrations was allowed to without any repercussion?


Don’t understand, what does, “national policy’, have to do with,
A  Local government, Violating, a Federal Law?

I believe it has  NOTHING  to do, with, ‘national policy’ !

Just look at the case, where is, ‘WAS’, ‘national policy’,
where a person had to issue a certain license.
         and they did not,
what happened ????????????
        They were PUT IN JAIL !

As to:
“… Many people were arrested during demonstrations but that is “nothing”?…”
Don’t know where you were, or what, ’news’ you saw, but the VAST,  MAJORITY, were  NOT.

“…  Nothing was done, they were allowed to destroy property and not one person anywhere enforced law?  Every person that broke the law during demonstrations was allowed to without any repercussion?…”

Yes, and  YES.

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Eegore on 10/05/17 at 19:47:06


 So you are saying a "vast majority" and "nobody" at the same time?  Just trying to clarify.

As to:
“… Many people were arrested during demonstrations but that is “nothing”?…”
Don’t know where you were, or what, ’news’ you saw, but the VAST,  MAJORITY, were  NOT.

“…  Nothing was done, they were allowed to destroy property and not one person anywhere enforced law?  Every person that broke the law during demonstrations was allowed to without any repercussion?…”

Yes, and  YES.

 As for Local government choosing to not follow Federal Law, I consider Federal laws to be affecting the nation and as such are policies put in place as law within the nation.  Policy that is effective nationwide, to me, is considered national policy.  

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/05/17 at 21:48:32

I am so pleased...
And, due process Can take rights.. I wasn't thinking..

https://www.youngcons.com/antifa-thug-who-threw-burning-flares-at-cop-car-sentenced-to-5-years-in-prison/

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Eegore on 10/06/17 at 07:57:27


 But nothing happened.  None of these arrests happened from what I hear.

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/06/17 at 11:22:58

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/09/man_who_threw_flare_into_cop_c.html

Reference at the end to 25 arrests.
I didn't see disposition or proof.
Looks like he's it.

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by MnSpring on 10/06/17 at 19:55:00

Headlines say:
“90 %  of  Protesters  Arrested”.
 
That enough, that tells it all,
  (According to some)

Never Mind, down, way down, in the,   fine,  print,  
it says:  ’52  arrested of 500+
and 90% are  released, with No Charges’.

That is Just like me saying:
 “I  Drink.  I  Drive”

 
Never mind the,  REST, !!!!!!!!!!@

Where it is explained:
 “He Drinks and Drives,
But  NOT AT THE SAME TIME”


Just, read  the,  ‘Headlines’, the Rest does,  NOT  MATTER !


Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Eegore on 10/08/17 at 20:59:42


 Can you link to a headline that reads "90% of protesters arrested" ?

 If one person is arrested is that "nothing" ?  Are you saying the arrests didn't happen?

 Are you saying the legislation being pushed on sanctuary cities isn't real?  

 

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by MnSpring on 10/09/17 at 15:51:43


735351594453360 wrote:
 Can you link to a headline that reads "90% of protesters arrested" ?
 If one person is arrested is that "nothing" ?  Are you saying the arrests didn't happen?
 Are you saying the legislation being pushed on sanctuary cities isn't real?    


Can you link to a headline that reads “90% of protesters arrested" ?

The 90% was just a number to illustrate a Point.
And that, ‘point', being,  ( Read  the Previous Post)

If one person is arrested is that "nothing" ?  Are you saying the arrests didn’t happen?

Let’s see;  500 people did this/that, then the police came, they arrested one, who had a sprained ankle and could not run, They arrested him/her.
            Yea, that is,  ’Nothing’ !

Are you saying the legislation being pushed on sanctuary cities isn’t real?  

Wait a min,  WHO, is, ‘Pushing’, “… legislation being pushed on sanctuary cities…”
It is that,  CITY/STATE.  That is  Making UP, their OWN   Rules.

Oh, HOW is that, finding out the ‘Principals’, in the Solar farms.
Which you said:,  “ Who is it?   Shouldn’t take more than a day to find the bankruptcy filings.”
Which I sent  YOU, (PM’en), the recorded landowners, as to the CO  records.  The Tax records, the GPS  Locations, and the Ariel photos,    
Twenty One Days ago.   (And you acknowledged recite of that information)

How it that coming ?


Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by Eegore on 10/10/17 at 06:24:36


 I don't think you have a real grasp on what's required to incarcerate 500 people.  

 As for "pushing" I use the term as a way to describe the presentation of a change that is done in a way to be more expedient than the normal method.  The presented cuts in federal funding to these cities is currently done in a way that is not standard, it is done in a method that would put it into effect as quickly as possible.  I linked it before, go to the link and read if you want to know and not speculate.

 As for the solar farms I'm not looking into it myself as I am currently sourcing generators and close to 400 gravity fed water filtration systems to ship to Puerto Rico instead of Haiti.

 Also I didn't know you wanted report on that.

Title: Re: Violate   A, ‘LAW; !
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/10/17 at 09:46:28

s I am currently sourcing generators and close to 400 gravity fed water filtration systems to ship to Puerto Rico instead of Haiti.

Again, a Thumbs Up is just not enough.

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