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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 08/20/17 at 10:17:52

Title: Media lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/20/17 at 10:17:52

leave it to Ron Paul to sum things up perfectly...

"Americans don’t realize the extent of the media brainwashing to which they are subjected"

Operation Mockingbird

CIA has been controlling the media for decades. Why do you think our grandparents got snookered too?

Remember what DeClone told us.

Lie to people and they make bad decisions.
Look at what Bullshit Americans have supported that after the dust settled they saw they had been suckered.
Today's insanity will become obviously insanity, after the damage is done.
The division is manufactured.

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/20/17 at 10:20:13

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/08/20-declassified-files-prove-governmental-crime-conspiracy-part-1.html

Don't forget Iran Contra, and know the story of Freeway Ricky Ross.
If you still believe our government wouldn't import drugs into America, you're beyond help.
The truth is not always comfortable.

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by raydawg on 08/20/17 at 11:20:31

What I try to do Jog is get the others perspective.
I have filters of course, don't we all, we call it prejudice.
That use to be an acceptable tool to navigate were you have no previous bearing.
But as you allude, forces of ulterior motives have co-opted its meaning to give it a negative connotation, so it will be easier for them to steer the sheep into their corral.

American has rightly earned some of its global critique, of that I have no doubt.
We can witness here, the arrogance of beliefs, some cling so desperately.
Forgoing any attempt to challenge, or answer, the hypocrisies of their own beliefs to discredit that of another.
I often think the good ol' USA must be guilty of such as well.

It was Obama this week, who said hate is learned.
Well gee, can we say so is bias?
Can we say all beliefs are learned then?
Now, who was the teacher Jog?

I think you answered that ;D

Do all challenges, and varying opinions, beliefs, have merit, all 100 percent right/wrong, or is their some truth, and false, in most perceptions, and beliefs?

Those who say folks can't stand to look at the truth, gee, I wonder if they are tipping their hand and they have no clue everyone else sees their cards ;D

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/20/17 at 11:30:23

You'd faint if you caught just a glimpse of
My Cards.
As if I'm pushing some agenda for control.
I'm trying to get people to see what lies we've been sold.
The poor lefties are tools of the people who want control.
The neocons are too.

The uncomfortable TRUTH IS
The cia imported drugs, controls media, and much more.
The negative attitude towards America is well founded.
The people are dupes and elections aren't changing things

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by raydawg on 08/20/17 at 12:42:32

We have beat this horse many times Jog, she must be weary.....

I will leave it as this, for I lack the capacity of certainty, for I am not like you, who can sign absolute factual truth, to your conclusions....
They best I can truthfully offer is my best guess.

I will reduce my observation to understanding how man is very simplistic of nature at his root.
The complexity comes when he tries to direct others, and with failure, manipulates it to try and achieve the results.

Mankind has never been here before, today, this very moment.
All he does is guess his best, for no navigation equipment has yet been discovered that can glimpse a moment beyond the present.

Yes, man devises, he plans, he plots, and most of his reasoning is for self preservation, a primitive instinct that takes an extreme amount of moral faith, to overcome.

With that understanding, I will tuck my guess into most of these "ideas" are based on thinking they can achieve good, while also promoting themselves, accordingly.
As I stated above, one in primordial, and surely takes precedence, as a natural occurrence.
To overcome that, it takes a conscious effort, often in conflict with his pride and ego.
This is where all goes awry.

You can, and will, assign a more sinister motive, and you might very well be right, doubly so if you look at his actions "after" the fact that his well meaning plans did not come to fruition, as hoped for.

This is when you see folks that are also invested in this "person, who represents their "beliefs" rewrite reality to say that a wang being hummed on in a girls mouth is NOT sex.....

I use this as a glaring example, but not conclusively to any ideology, as it crosses the stream and is exampled on both of its banks, by all of us.

So finally Jog, you keep posting your beliefs, documents and all, that is your right.
But please do not assign to me your findings because I do not see share your same prejudices.
If anything, it erodes the issue you share, and takes it personal, and now we go to a different arena to "argue" in our psychological minds.

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/20/17 at 12:51:05

My prejudices died years ago.
I hadn't actually Studied the things that I had opinions about.
I had accepted what was common knowledge, based on lies.
Pre Judging is what the non critical thinking person does.
I felt discomfort in my guts. I started really thinking about the things I'd seen.
I judged after studying.
That's not
Prejudice
It's analysis and accepting truth.

You think Ross is a lie?
Aren't you old enough to know what Iran Contra was?

Don't you know about Cynthia McKinney asking Rumsfeld to explain how DynCorp and Halliburton got away with sex trafficking?

If it's DOCUMENTED, how can you shrug it off?

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by raydawg on 08/20/17 at 13:19:41

I am not shrugging it off, and YES, we are in total agreement about prejudice, but I question your statement about having discarded this very normal tool we use daily to go through life.

Yes, the thing is it NEEDS to be balanced with reality, and discovery, yet, it is the door that we open to look, first.

If you say not, then I ask, why did this door attract your attention....
You did not know what it might be hiding, right?

Your assigning to those who DO NOT see the same thing YOU DO, is, in fact, prejudice Jog.
Please explain how its not, if I am wrong.

You see it plainly in TT, etc, how he thinks he is the only one who knows the truth, except you offer argument, he calls names.

Don't you see any part of that?

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/20/17 at 13:39:29

It's not prejudice when it's been evaluated rationally.
I'm not prejudiced in my evaluation of your desire to ignore the Meaning of the facts. You even SAID you were afraid to inspect them. Maintaining a perspective once it's been made obviously untrue? Not me, thanks.
I'm gonna point out the facts and explain why they mean something other than what
Everybody knows

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by MnSpring on 08/20/17 at 17:30:13

293A223F3A2C3C5B0 wrote:

I am not shrugging it off, and YES, we are in total agreement about prejudice, but I question your statement about having discarded this very normal tool we use daily to go through life. Yes, the thing is it NEEDS to be balanced with reality, and discovery, yet, it is the door that we open to look, first. If you say not, then I ask, why did this door attract your attention.... You did not know what it might be hiding, right? Your assigning to those who DO NOT see the same thing YOU DO, is, in fact, prejudice Jog. Please explain how its not, if I am wrong.
You see it plainly in TT, etc, how he thinks he is the only one who knows the truth, except you offer argument, he calls names. Don't you see any part of that?

“… assigning to those who DO NOT see the same thing YOU DO, is, in fact, prejudice…”

I disagree with that.
On the surface, it looks OK,
But need MORE, Information !!!!!!!!!!!
With OUT, Information, one biases his/her, opinion, on the Facts at hand.
So the way, ‘I’, see something, is biased on the Information.
Not, a Pre Judgment, of ALL , ‘like’:
(People that want to preserve History Statues are, ALL, Nazi’s)

The information comes from, ‘FACTS’,
from people you can trust.
And, ‘Observed Reality’, from things that have happened in the past.

Take for example, Noor shooting/killing, Damond, In Mpls.
We know, he shot and killed her from the passenger seat.
We, ‘believe’ from all accounts, she was no threat.

We DON’T know, Anything Else !

What the ‘powers’ say, is, Nothing.
And Nothing from Noor.

So we Have to rely on, ‘Observed Reality’.
Which is, The Mpls Chief said: ‘We will get to the bottom of this’.
Then she was, immediately, FIRED, (er, Forced Retirement).
The Mayor, and the Mpls A.G., will make the, ‘decision’.
And Both the Mayor, and A.G. are Ultra-ULTRA, ALT-Left.

Then, just before this, another male, Police person, shot and killed a male.
In a WEEK, he was charged with ‘Murder’.
In his trial, The Dead person, SAID: ‘I Have a Gun”.
The Police person said, ‘Don’t reach for it”.
He did, and the Police officer was Acquitted.
And the Mom, receives, 3.5 MILLION,
and the Gov. Gave 12 MILLON, for further training.

So when someone says, ’Noor Shot Damond in Cold Blood’.
(Biased on the, FACTS, on hand)
That person is, “prejudice”, Because, Noor is Black and Damond was White.

Not because their are, making a decision of, FACTS, at hand.
But, ONLY, because, Noor is Black and Damond was White.

Did Damond come up to the Police car, in her P.J.’s, with a GUN. ?
Was Damond a front for some kind of, Ambush. ?
If that is true, and one believed, Noor, still, shot in cold blood,
THEN, and Only then, would that be, “prejudice”.

As to T&T, making statements, Well he is just, ‘Lost’.
Suffering from a form of, Hypothermia.

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by raydawg on 08/20/17 at 18:55:03

Missing the point.

Lets try this, I dunno if it will work, perhaps, its a wee bit ambiguous, but the idea i am trying to convey can still apply.

You are hungry, you want to eat.
You are on the road traveling.
You are in a big city, many choices to choose from.

You see two that look promising, one Italian, the other, Mexican.
You are way north of the southern boarder of USA, so, you might think the Mexican restaurant might not be as authentic, or a good, as one closer to a area that has a large Mexican influence of population.

You then opt for Italian based on a prejudice, not a fact, as you have not eaten at neither establishment yet.

If you stay another day, eat at the other choice, now you decision to eat on the 3rd day would be based on the fact of which one you liked better.

You get it now?

I won't even go into the scenario I liked the restaurant best, that you assigned lessor to, and went back there the third day, for my fact is now in conflict with your fact.....

Well, truth be told, it wasn't the food, no, but the big titties on the waitress, that I wanted to sample.......again ;D

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by MnSpring on 08/20/17 at 19:15:16

7E6D75686D7B6B0C0 wrote:

Missing the point. Lets try this, I dunno if it will work, perhaps, its a wee bit ambiguous, but the idea i am trying to convey can still apply. You are hungry, you want to eat. You are on the road traveling. You are in a big city, many choices to choose from. You see two that look promising, one Italian, the other, Mexican. You are way north of the southern boarder of USA, so, you might think the Mexican restaurant might not be as authentic, or a good, as one closer to a area that has a large Mexican influence of population. You then opt for Italian based on a prejudice, not a fact, as you have not eaten at neither establishment yet. If you stay another day, eat at the other choice, now you decision to eat on the 3rd day would be based on the fact of which one you liked better. You get it now? I won't even go into the scenario I liked the restaurant best, that you assigned lessor to, and went back there the third day, for my fact is now in conflict with your fact..... Well, truth be told, it wasn't the food, no, but the big titties on the waitress, that I wanted to sample.......again ;D

“…now your decision to eat on the 3rd day would be based on the fact of which one you liked better. …”
Yep, NOT, at ALL, “prejudice”, simply the food you liked the best.

But NOW:
“…truth be told, it wasn’t the food, no, but the big tithes on the waitress…”
(Good More Information)
Again NOT, “prejudice”, simply, ‘like big tittties more than the food’.

Someone likes, ‘Golf’, someone likes, ‘Hockey’.
Someone likes, ‘Base Ball’, someone likes, 'Soccer’.
Someone likes, ’Tennis’, someone likes, ‘Badminton’.
On and On and On.

NON of those things are, “prejudice”, they are JUST, what someone prefers.

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 08/20/17 at 19:17:29

If I can figure out a way to hide the uncomfortable truths behind a titty, will you study them?

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by MnSpring on 08/20/17 at 19:23:44

“… You then opt for Italian based on a prejudice, not a fact, …”

Maybe ?

Was that place a right turn, then to go the the hotel a right turn?
Which place had more cars in the parking lot ?
(Huge indication of how good are they).
Have had, Mexican/Italian food before,
Which one am I hungry for ?

Lots of decisions, not a SINGLE One, biased on, ‘prejudice’.

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by raydawg on 08/20/17 at 19:26:36

425D5B5C41467747774F5D511A280 wrote:

If I can figure out a way to hide the uncomfortable truths behind a titty, will you study them?

I admit truthfully and factually......

YES, I would be a sucker for that ;D

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by raydawg on 08/20/17 at 19:30:13

486B5675776C6B62050 wrote:

STOP IT [ch9995]

You are adding too much to the equation.
We are talking your first gut instinct before you start any analysis.

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by MnSpring on 08/20/17 at 19:39:47

Ya know, when I am on the road.

I actually, ‘Look’ for a, ‘Asian type Buffet’,.
Simply because I like that food.

However, if their is a, ‘Asian type Buffet’, restaurant,
Which has NO, cars in the parking lot,
I will seek elsewhere.

I guess that is, ‘prejudice’, as I Chose to go to a restaurant, which I believes the, ‘Locals go to’, as the numbers of cars.

So could be easy to say: ‘I am prejudice”, as to,
‘Who serves the Best Food” !

(Now you and I are discussing this)

Yet, T&T, will SPIN it,
saying, ‘I, am prejudice’.

You are adding too much to the equation.
We are talking your first gut instinct before you start any analysis.

LOLOLOLOLOL,
That is How I Chose !

Title: Re: Media lies
Post by MnSpring on 08/20/17 at 20:00:55

Here is another example.
Using, ‘Black’, skin as a example.

A, ‘Black’ person, interfaces with me, and they are a decent Human Being.
NO PROBLEM !!!!!!!!!!!!
They are simply, a decent Human Being, ‘Person’ !

A, ‘Gang,’ of people, who have Black Skin,
Who’s goal is to STEEL, and intimidate me.
They are Just, ‘D.F.N,ers, Plain and simple.

So, again, one could say I am, ‘prejudice’,
Against, someone who is a D.F.I., and wants to cause me harm.

Not, ‘prejudice’, on skin/race/religion/etc.
But on their, ‘Attitude’. !!!!!!!!!

However in, today's, Ultra-Liberal, P.C., ‘CORRECT’, world.
One is, “TOLD”, to think differently !