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Title: Wish list for 2018 Post by zipidachimp on 08/18/17 at 22:35:04 Mine: 1. Still in production 2. improved cam chain tensioner 3. Trip Odometer 4. Flatter seat 5. 17" rear wheel Feel free to add yours. My guess it will not be available, or it will have fuel injection for emissions control. Cheers! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by jcstokes on 08/19/17 at 01:00:42 Zipi, even if they did the dirty on us and stopped making them, I reckon you would still get a new one up to about 2020, certainly in my country they still seem to have new two year old ones. Then there's all the second hand ones with negligible mileage. I somehow feel Suzuki won't be interested in your other wishes, sorry to be a cynic. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by IslandRoad on 08/19/17 at 01:34:50 Center stand |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by IslandRoad on 08/19/17 at 01:36:12 Larger fuel tank capacity. Bar mounted speedo. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by IslandRoad on 08/19/17 at 01:37:42 Larger exhaust port. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by engineer on 08/19/17 at 12:22:30 All the above are good but I would settle for a 16 inch rear wheel so I could have a bigger choice of tires. I would also like to see the chrome plated covers over the valve cover re-styled to something like I have seen on the Tempter. And a more durable timing chain and a front brake that at least looked a little more capable. Oh, two more things, better rear shocks and slightly stiffer front fork springs. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by Serowbot on 08/19/17 at 12:29:51 Taller 5th gear please... :-? |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by piedmontbuckeye on 08/19/17 at 16:39:52 5268777A757F49747A7F1B0 wrote:
Problem with this one is the small opening of the inner pipe. Not sure why they chose such a small diameter! |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by piedmontbuckeye on 08/19/17 at 16:41:37 Lower ratio 1st gear and a corresponding higher ratio 5th gear or a sixth gear. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by cygnet on 08/19/17 at 18:15:27 How about the motor out of a DR650 and a 6th gear. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by LANCER on 08/19/17 at 18:45:29 You would not need 6 gears, as long as 5th was a good overdrive. The torque the engine produces nullifies the need for anything more that 5. I would also like: Good rear shocks Upgraded forks like those done here Same with the front brake upgrade 4-5 gal tank Speedo & tach on bars 17" wheels front/rear Redesigned head ... by a REAL engineer this time Make the bike a Standard vs a Cruiser ... ... ... ? |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by Armen on 08/19/17 at 19:26:17 Would love to see the head improved. No reason a 4 valve 650 can't rev to over 8 grand and make 45 HP. The cruiser position never did anything for me. Love to see the bike as a standard or traditional cafe racer (think Thruxton R). 18 or 17" wheels. Narrow the drive belt to 3/4 or 1" Taller gearing. Less agony/drama to yank the tank and work on the top end. Alloy rims. Tubeless. A real front brake. Mechanical decompression system, ditch the solenoid. Better forks. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by zipidachimp on 08/19/17 at 23:07:56 alloy rims, tubeless! http://www.bikesdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/MV-Agusta-800-Dragster-RR-Test-rear-wheel-and-exahust.jpg 8-) In my personal fantasy, Suzuki sells me 100 DR650 engines, I contract with a frame designer for a 'standard' style frame with mid controls, and I end up with the bike of my dreams that I can sell to others with the similar passions !!! (and I don't go broke). :D ps: saw that dragster in Monterey last month at the Superbike races, young lady that was riding it couldn't have weighed more than 100 lbs. Living the dream! |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by ohiomoto on 08/20/17 at 05:06:44 For some of you, this exercise proves that you actually didn't want a Savage at all! (I'm in that camp.) The truth is, this bike is a cheap cruiser. Things like better shocks, taller fifth gear, are legitimate wish lists items for THIS bike. When your list gets much longer, it tells me that you didn't buy this bike because you wanted a Savage. Different size wheels (beyond a 16" rear), mags, seating positions, higher performance engine components, different shocks and forks, etc...you're getting into a whole new bike. That is what is so unique to this bike on this forum. Some of us like the bike as a cruiser and some of us bought it with every intention of changing everything about it! We are asking this little cruiser to be a cafe racer, a scrambler, a standard, a touring machine... Seems like Suzuki could profit a bit by researching this site a little. Keep the little cruiser and put out a thumping Temtper'ish standard that offers a little more performance. :) |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by old.indian on 08/20/17 at 08:06:41 7563746971646972060 wrote:
If you are a good little dust bunnie maybe Santa will leave a 25 tooth front pulley under the Christmas Cactus for you...... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by LANCER on 08/20/17 at 08:23:50 I, for one, absolutely wanted this bike. My wish list, in my mind, are things to make THIS BIKE better, not change it into something else. Suspension and brakes are a safety factor; wheel size and a very slight change in the frame to a bit of a standard are just a matter of looks; tach & speedo relocation is for convinience; for reworking the cyl. head...well, that is to correct Suzukis PURPOSEFUL detuning of the engine which I suspect was done so it would not compete with the DR650. They could have just dropped the DR engine in a frame with a milder cam and lower compression if they had wanted to but they didn't. Actually the camshafts are both from the same cam core (for 1990-1995 and perhaps even farther back), just different profiles. The valves are the same, and I think the rockers as well, and of course the pistons are interchangeable. Anyway, I am emotionnally attached to this bike, will never sell my '96 (REX) and I just like to tinker and make small improvements along the way. I am not replacing his heart with something else, so he remains a Suzuki LS650 Savage. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by piedmontbuckeye on 08/20/17 at 09:30:12 26252D6720272D202827490 wrote:
If you are a good little dust bunnie maybe Santa will leave a 25 tooth front pulley under the Christmas Cactus for you...... 8-) [/quote] But this would change all the gears. IMO the 1st gear needs to be lower. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by old.indian on 08/20/17 at 10:30:47 717C737E786F2F2A1D0 wrote:
Ditto. But my old knees complain less with the 4" FCs, and the head work (thank you Super Thumper) along with the other supension and engin mods give me all I need to putt along all day with more than enough in my quiver to make even the 1200s sit up and bug their beady little eye balls.... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by zipidachimp on 08/20/17 at 11:11:30 I bought mine (2) because of my old knees, and visions of Manx Nortons and Matchless G50s dancing in my brain. Both those engines are still available as new, if you have the cash! |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by LANCER on 08/20/17 at 13:05:52 584B524B4643414A4B4F52220 wrote:
Yep, you sure can if you have LOTS of $$$. During my twilight dreams it is a BSA Goldstar 500. [ch127949][ch128526][ch127949][ch128526][ch127949][ch128526][ch128641] ... and a small helicopter.[ch128513] |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by IslandRoad on 08/20/17 at 14:43:36 6E69686E6C6E756E010 wrote:
I'm a fairly new rider and didn't really know which bike I wanted. I was attracted to the 'standards' but couldn't find one that felt right. I sat on a few bikes and the S40 was the nearest I could get to something that fitted. That was my main reason for buying it (And researching this forum helped me to decide). I've sat on a few more bikes since getting it and still haven't found anything better. I think it wouldn't matter which bike I bought, I would still be modding it, for all kinds of reasons - not least of which is, I just like making things my own. So, I would say I didn't go out looking for a Savage, but now I don't want anything else. At some point I may run out of things to modify ... maybe :) |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by jcstokes on 08/20/17 at 17:38:33 I think sometimes, that Suzuki doesn't want you on an S40/Savage for very long. We seem to forget that our bikes are the cheap intro into the Suzuki Boulevard range. They want you on a bigger, flasher, more expensive Boulevard asap. If you are new to motorcycling, get your license and a bit of experience up and then move up. They probably sell enough S40's to people who will do this, it certainly happens in my country. Obviously they sell a few to people who soon decide that motorcycling isn't for them as well. Their dies and tooling are set up for what they want. The aftermarket industry of Verslagen, Lancer, Dave can readily cater for those who want more reliability and performance. I won't say much about the comfort, but there is always the Corbin seat and Airhawk pads. plus what many amateurs do. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by Ruttly on 08/20/17 at 19:27:10 02312E262D430 wrote:
Sounds like the bike your building , oh yeah is it getting close ? Far too many different bikes can be built from one , I think that's what might make them popular. I bought mine as a donor RYCA bike but I always thought of a stocker as a bit of a ugly duckling but it has gotten under my thick skin and now I want one , go figure ! I just need to sell at least 2 bikes before I can justify buying another and then having to hear it from my H/D buddies , but pretty much they know I don't give phuck what anyone think about me , I do my own thing !!!! |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by Ruttly on 08/20/17 at 19:36:02 If I had the choice I would vote for a sixth gear , the rest of it can be modded ! Yes I'm back from eight days in California Gold country , big fun & perfect weather. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by IslandRoad on 08/20/17 at 20:54:23 301716160E1B620 wrote:
It's funny you mention that. I've been playing with the ergonomics on mine to make it more comfortable for highway riding. It's all a trade off. Just yesterday I was thinking I kinda miss some aspects of the stock setup. It was great for cruising into town, for short trips, when the speed was below 80 km/hr. But at higher speeds and longer rides I really need my elbows out, my backside back and my feet forward. ... urgh ... I need two bikes ... at least! |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by MMRanch on 08/20/17 at 21:12:09 Yes , the LS-650 is almost PERFECT isn't it ! 8-) Really it closer than it looks . 1. The Taller gear is a piece of cake (Kawasaki 454 or 500 (25 tooth) pulley). Runs down the Super-Slab at 75mph so happily you'll think its made to do it . 8-) 2. The cam chain adjuster has a ratchet action to keep it from backing up once expanded , so you don't need that super spring that Suzuki puts in. I've been 20,000 miles with 1/4 strength spring and the adjuster might have moved one click . 3. The seat off a Harley FatBoy is very easy to modify for the LS-650 , and is very comfortable . Or the 03 and older Sportster seats are very close to a strait fit. Harley makes good parts ! 4. Almost all the after market speedometers' work just fine , some-where on this site is the cable info. The trip-set gets as simple as a luggage combination lock (3 numbers) . 5 Your going to need a welder for the fuel tank expansion , unless ya ask OldFeller ! ;) I think it was a GS-250 that worked for me . 6. I'm getting over 20,000 mile from Commander II tires , 140/90-15 and they ride great. I'm 5'10" so I like a tall shock on the rear ... seems like any part of any bike will fit this thing ! ;D 350#'ish bike :) |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by LANCER on 08/21/17 at 03:54:11 Quote: "seems like any part of any bike will fit this thing". Yep, pretty much. [ch128513][ch128077][ch128526] |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by IslandRoad on 08/21/17 at 05:01:54 While they're at it, Suzuki could properly fix that rubber seal to the toolbox. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by LANCER on 08/21/17 at 06:09:17 5C6679747B71477A7471150 wrote:
There's a rubber seal ? ? :o |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by Tocsik on 08/21/17 at 10:23:06 2A27282523347471460 wrote:
There's a rubber seal ? ? :o[/quote] Rubbish. Pics or didn't happen. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by Dave on 08/21/17 at 11:51:30 There is a "molding" that goes on the chrome cover.....it is a rubber "U" shaped molding that falls off and gets lost easily. It is $ 3.02 is you want a new one.....part number 14 in the photo. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by engineer on 08/21/17 at 12:29:33 I actually bought one and glued it in place. I'm probably the only person who bought one in the last twenty years. |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by IslandRoad on 08/21/17 at 12:51:42 It's not much thicker than the heat shrink used to cover electrical wires after you splice them. It's probably useless, but it does feel more intuitive to see that little black band around the edge of the lid - like a gasket (not that it really seals anything!) :-? |
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Title: Re: Wish list for 2018 Post by MShipley on 08/21/17 at 13:33:53 This is my second. I just like the simplicity of this bike. |
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