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Message started by Serowbot on 07/11/17 at 11:54:42

Title: Trump Jr
Post by Serowbot on 07/11/17 at 11:54:42

Well yeah, okay,.. I colluded with Russia to get Russian intel on Hillary,... but only a little bit...
Manafort and Jared did it too...

Are we there yet?... :-?...

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 12:17:09


1305120F17020F14600 wrote:
Well yeah, okay,.. I colluded with Russia to get Russian intel on Hillary,... but only a little bit...
Manafort and Jared did it too...

Are we there yet?... :-?...


But... CNN lied!!..... But.... Comey leaked!!..... But... CNN lied!!....... But...

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 12:22:17

Oh boy....

http://www.yahoo.com/news/7-most-important-things-trump-181921745.html

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 12:29:48

Coincidence?

I think not.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZFX8FEpqOU[/media]

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by Serowbot on 07/11/17 at 13:35:49

'IT IS COLLUSION': Watergate special prosecutor draws the line after Trump Jr.'s email revelation
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/collusion-watergate-special-prosecutor-draws-050015878.html

http://cdnph.upi.com/sh/th/upi/UPI-9281440591904/2015/3faa43ad2d971086f140e55a4c7de64a/Donald-Trump-spars-with-Univision-journalist-Jorge-Ramos.jpg

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/11/17 at 13:42:43

Collusion, in and of itself, is not always illegal. With that being said, getting a political scalp is not always based on the law.

What will be interesting is seeing what Trump does with this. The temptation to throw him overboard will be intense. Trump Jr might demand to fall on his sword if it will give liberal wolves the carcass they want.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by Serowbot on 07/11/17 at 13:53:22

He'll need a bigger sword... Manafort and Jared were there too...

Collusion is always illegal if it is with an enemy state and involves illegal gathering of information on US citizen, particularly one running for President... ie Hillary...
E-mails show JR knew what this was about in advance of the meeting... he specifically went to get Russian spy info on Hillary... Manfort and Jared too...

Stupid don't fall far from the tree... :-?


I think Trump will be pressured to resign, to save them all from prosecution... or at least lesson sentences...


I know,.. I've been wrong so far... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/11/17 at 14:06:52


566463727564734C60736A010 wrote:
Collusion, in and of itself, is not always illegal. With that being said, getting a political scalp is not always based on the law.

What will be interesting is seeing what Trump does with this. The temptation to throw him overboard will be intense. Trump Jr might demand to fall on his sword if it will give liberal wolves the carcass they want.


"Liberal wolves"?  Seriously?  Um, no.

This isn't party bias.  This is TREASON - get it?  There are no liberals or conservatives in this - only Americans.

These fools have to go - and go now.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/11/17 at 19:23:45

I'm watching Trump Jr now. There was no crime, there was no collusion.

And Sew is wrong, surprise, surprise. There was no suggestion that illegal gathering of information occuured, No one said that, you made that up. I've been on a plane for several hours reading multiple news reports and I never read anything suggesting that the person who was arranging the meeting said the information was gather illegally.

So again, collusion, in and of itself, is not illegal. The meeting turned out to be nothing, the person who arranged the meeting had an alternative motive for the meeting, something about restrictions on Russian adoptions.

So try again snowflakes.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/11/17 at 19:25:32

This isn't party bias.  This is TREASON - get it?  There are no liberals or conservatives in this - only Americans.

Hard to overstate how ridiculous that statement is.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/12/17 at 03:07:15

This is TREASON - get it?

No it isn't......

But you'll turn a blind eye to all of this......   Pathetic.......

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/24/clintons-top-10-pay-play-allegations/

Best regards,


Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by Serowbot on 07/12/17 at 06:43:05

I'm not wrong...
You're saying she is wrong...
I'm sure you know best... ::)
""This is an astounding thing," said Wine-Banks on MSNBC. "It is collusion with a foreign adversary if they were working together to get the information from the Russian government.""

Collusion doesn't require success... it requires intent.
This was the stick in the wheel with Hillary... there was no intent...
Here there is...

Bank robbery doesn't require that get money,.. just that you pull the gun and say "stick 'em up"...

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 09:50:27

Hey Bot - can you imagine if this were any member of Obama's family?

Yeah, I can see exactly who all these tweety apologists are.... right winged and ignorant.

It is to laugh.....

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 09:55:17

Oh, but fox is not a friend of our tweeter in chief, huh?

Laughable!!!!

http://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-finds-safe-harbor-sean-hannity-031756285.html

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 10:39:02

Dumb and more dumberer.......

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmVamJc4d5Q[/media]

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 10:52:57

Get this... jr's nickname from the white house staff is "Fredo".....

How appropriate.

LMAO!!!

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/17 at 12:25:52

The former first lady had a great name..
The First Wookie.
Perfect

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 12:32:28


77686E6974734272427A68642F1D0 wrote:
The former first lady had a great name..
The First Wookie.
Perfect


Yeah, from the likes of you... not the white house.

Nice try...

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/17 at 12:35:18

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/how-hermitage-capital-ziff-brothers-and-clinton-global-initiative-prompted-trump-jr-

and another that his ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2713591
Hillary told one agent to 'f*** off' and another that his suit looked 'cheap.' Secret Service staff say guarding the former First Lady ... Hillary’s code name, ...
Secret Service agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work …

nypost.com/.../02/secret-service-agents-hillary...with
Oct 02, 2015 · Video embedded · ... ma’am,” a member of the uniformed Secret Service once greeted Hillary Clinton. ... New York Post. Share

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 12:43:07


27383E3924231222122A38347F4D0 wrote:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/how-hermitage-capital-ziff-brothers-and-clinton-global-initiative-prompted-trump-jr-

and another that his ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2713591
Hillary told one agent to 'f*** off' and another that his suit looked 'cheap.' Secret Service staff say guarding the former First Lady ... Hillary’s code name, ...
Secret Service agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work …

nypost.com/.../02/secret-service-agents-hillary...with
Oct 02, 2015 · Video embedded · ... ma’am,” a member of the uniformed Secret Service once greeted Hillary Clinton. ... New York Post. Share



IS THAT ALL YOU GOT??!?!?!?!?!?!

Over and above your lame attempt at casting aspersion on the clintons..

You honestly believe that "Hermitage Capital, Ziff Brothers And The Clinton Global Initiative Prompted The Trump Jr. Meeting" - ?????

SERIOUSLY???!?!?!?!?!?????

Hey jog - I've got beachfront property in the desert you should buy - 'cause you buy ANYTHING!!!

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAA!!!!!!

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 12:43:35

OMG - my sides hurt.... soo funny....!

Wow... just... wow!

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 12:44:59

Hey bot - jog seems to think that zero hedge's tyler durden is "reputable"!!

How funny is that??


BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAAAAA!!!!!!

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/17 at 13:16:13

It's not illogical.

Unlike
He's LYING about LYING..
Yeah, that was good.

Disagree with the lefties
Disreputable

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 13:43:40


627D7B7C61665767576F7D713A080 wrote:
It's not illogical.

What's not illogical, trying to pin the meeting on someone other than jr.?  C'mon.... a report by "tyler durden"?...

Unlike
He's LYING about LYING..
Yeah, that was good.

Disagree with the lefties
Disreputable


As I've said before - there is no party in this.  Only blatant incompetence and (very) possible treason.  The first family is full of morons... look at the tweeter, look at jr....

IMHO, if you label everyone you think is a "lefty" as disreputable, then you set yourself up for massive failure.

Look at my stance on the minimum wage.  Not "lefty" at all.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/12/17 at 14:09:46


4B5D4A574F5A574C380 wrote:
Collusion doesn't require success... it requires intent.
This was the stick in the wheel with Hillary... there was no intent...
Here there is...

Bank robbery doesn't require that get money,.. just that you pull the gun and say "stick 'em up"...



And if you walk out of a bank with millions $$ that is not yours LEO call that stealing or grand larceny.

The Clinton Foundation received actual monetary donations. Trump received useless information from Russians hoping to switch the conversation to something else... All those attacking Trump on highly questionable grounds need to get a grip on reality. The charges against Hillary are not only worse, they are most certainly warranted.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 14:33:46


7760666A6575070 wrote:
[quote author=4B5D4A574F5A574C380 link=1499799282/0#11 date=1499866985]
Collusion doesn't require success... it requires intent.
This was the stick in the wheel with Hillary... there was no intent...
Here there is...

Bank robbery doesn't require that get money,.. just that you pull the gun and say "stick 'em up"...



And if you walk out of a bank with millions $$ that is not yours LEO call that stealing or grand larceny.

The Clinton Foundation received actual monetary donations.

Yes, and it was all legal.  That's the difference.

Trump received useless information from Russians hoping to switch the conversation to something else...

LOL - did you read his emails?  That's not what he said himself.

All those attacking Trump on highly questionable grounds need to get a grip on reality. The charges against Hillary are not only worse, they are most certainly warranted.

LOL - no, they're actually not.  You see, tweety's administration is the only one under investigation.... how about that?

Best regards,
[/quote]

jr. went LOOKING for something that was ILLEGAL to obtain.  You simply can't spin that.  Do yourself a favor - go read the email chain that jr. himself put out.

You might just fall out of love... sorry.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/12/17 at 16:37:35

What was ILLEGAL to obtain?  

Just because she didn't go to jail doesn't mean she didn't break the law.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/12/17 at 19:01:57


6176707C7363110 wrote:
What was ILLEGAL to obtain?  

The FACT that he voluntarily went to meet with a foreign national with the INTENT to collude... guilty.  I mean, he posted the emails... it's hilarious!!  He's his own "deep throat".

Just because she didn't go to jail doesn't mean she didn't break the law.

See my post to jog.  Even Comey said she wasn't guilty... so....

Best regards,


Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/12/17 at 19:22:15


465857565B465D40320 wrote:
[quote author=6176707C7363110 link=1499799282/15#26 date=1499902655]What was ILLEGAL to obtain?  

The FACT that he voluntarily went to meet with a foreign national with the INTENT to collude... guilty.  I mean, he posted the emails... it's hilarious!!  He's his own "deep throat".

Just because she didn't go to jail doesn't mean she didn't break the law.

See my post to jog.  Even Comey said she wasn't guilty... so....

Best regards,

[/quote]


Dershowitz Slams Claims

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me6PV1-HsXY[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me6PV1-HsXY


Who the Comey who was canned and turned out to be a leaker.......  He might have his own legal problems for distributing classified info.....

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/13/17 at 04:08:22

Why did Loretta let this individual in the country?

Why did this lawyer meet with John McCain?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/russian-lawyer-veselnitskaya-posted-picture-facebook-inside-john-mccains-office/

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/17 at 05:11:05

Watch how quickly this story fades away now.

First off, there was no crime. Regardless, using the Comey/Clinton intent decision, there was no intent by Trump Jr. therefore, no crime.

Secondly, now that the Dems have been implicated, the media will close ranks to protect their team and start looking again for their long sought after Trump/Russia Holy Grail.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/13/17 at 07:06:57

If I had been the victim of a crime and my server would prove it and help find the perpetrator, but I wouldn't let the Investigators study it, I would expect people to question my motives.
The Third Party who told the FBI everything was okay WORKS for the DNC.
There is EXACTLY what
Conflict of Interest
lands.

Ohhh, gee, the Same FBI that let her walk,,
Nothing to see here..

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/17 at 07:28:15


7C4E49585F4E59664A59402B0 wrote:
...there was no intent by Trump Jr. therefore, no crime.


Who do you think you're kidding?...

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/17 at 08:37:30

What?
Hilary said she did not intend to break the law, What's different than what Trump Jr did? He said had no intent to break any laws and like Hilary, said he wished he done things differently.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 08:46:11


657274787767150 wrote:
[quote author=465857565B465D40320 link=1499799282/15#27 date=1499911317][quote author=6176707C7363110 link=1499799282/15#26 date=1499902655]What was ILLEGAL to obtain?  

The FACT that he voluntarily went to meet with a foreign national with the INTENT to collude... guilty.  I mean, he posted the emails... it's hilarious!!  He's his own "deep throat".

Just because she didn't go to jail doesn't mean she didn't break the law.

See my post to jog.  Even Comey said she wasn't guilty... so....

Best regards,

[/quote]


Dershowitz Slams Claims

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me6PV1-HsXY[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me6PV1-HsXY


Who the Comey who was canned and turned out to be a leaker.......  He might have his own legal problems for distributing classified info.....

LOL - shows how little you know... even fox recanted the story about "classified" info - you should try to keep up pg...lol

Best regards,
[/quote]

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by Trippah on 07/13/17 at 08:47:32

That is actually just what I said after accidentally setting off the atomic bomb on Washington, I had no intent to do so.  I just wanted to develop a story line and check the facts.  So please, stop investigating me or cheering when I drive around on my errands. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 08:48:05


5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
Watch how quickly this story fades away now.

First off, there was no crime. Regardless, using the Comey/Clinton intent decision, there was no intent by Trump Jr. therefore, no crime.

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAA!!!!  Read the email chain the HE HIMSELF posted.  (wow, talk about delusional...)

Secondly, now that the Dems have been implicated, the media will close ranks to protect their team and start looking again for their long sought after Trump/Russia Holy Grail.


Dems implicated???  Huh - by who, "tyler durden"????  LOL

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 08:52:06


566463727564734C60736A010 wrote:
What?
Hilary said she did not intend to break the law, What's different than what Trump Jr did? He said had no intent to break any laws and like Hilary, said he wished he done things differently.


LMAO - you are the king of denial, aren't you?

In the exchange, Goldstone, who set up the meeting, told Trump Jr. that Russian government officials could provide incriminating information about his father's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton through Russian pop musician Emin Agalarov. The emails, which Trump Jr. released on Twitter, appear to show Trump Jr. welcomed the information and accepted a meeting with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya.

"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump," Goldstone wrote, to which Trump Jr. replied: "If it's what you say I love it."


Full text here... read it and weep...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/11/read-donald-trump-jr-s-emails-seeking-sensitive-information-hillary-clinton-russia/468394001/

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 08:53:36


2D3A3C303F2F5D0 wrote:
Why did Loretta let this individual in the country?

Why did this lawyer meet with John McCain?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/russian-lawyer-veselnitskaya-posted-picture-facebook-inside-john-mccains-office/

Best regards,



Nonsensical boobery... LOL

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 09:31:29

I wonder if tweety will hang up this Time Magazine cover in his golf resorts?

http://www.yahoo.com/news/time-magazine-puts-apos-red-133356701.html

LOL

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/17 at 11:07:37

This story is going nowhere Snowflakes. Your own team will let it die a slow death to protect itself. Nothing of any significance will come from it.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 11:31:54


162423323524330C20332A410 wrote:
This story is going nowhere Snowflakes. Your own team will let it die a slow death to protect itself. Nothing of any significance will come from it.


Why do you say that?  Does it make you feel better?  Are you scared that tweety is days from falling?

LMAO!!!!!

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 11:37:42

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., had pressed Wray on Trump Jr.’s email exchange during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

“You’re going to be director of the FBI, pal,” said Graham. “So here’s what I want you to tell every politician. If you get a call from somebody suggesting that a foreign government wants to help you by disparaging your opponent, tell us all to call the FBI.”

“To the members of this committee,” said Wray, “any threat or effort to interfere with our elections from any nation-state or any nonstate actor is the kind of thing the FBI would want to know.”

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/17 at 12:32:59


445A555459445F42300 wrote:
[quote author=162423323524330C20332A410 link=1499799282/30#40 date=1499969257]This story is going nowhere Snowflakes. Your own team will let it die a slow death to protect itself. Nothing of any significance will come from it.


Why do you say that?  Does it make you feel better?  Are you scared that tweety is days from falling?

LMAO!!!!![/quote]

Bet me. I'll LMAO ......

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 12:35:17


102225343322350A26352C470 wrote:
[quote author=445A555459445F42300 link=1499799282/30#41 date=1499970714][quote author=162423323524330C20332A410 link=1499799282/30#40 date=1499969257]This story is going nowhere Snowflakes. Your own team will let it die a slow death to protect itself. Nothing of any significance will come from it.


Why do you say that?  Does it make you feel better?  Are you scared that tweety is days from falling?

LMAO!!!!![/quote]

Bet me. I'll LMAO ......[/quote]

No thanks.  My satisfaction will come in other ways.

But you might want to seek help with your gambling problem.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/17 at 13:00:54

I don't think you afford to lose $100!

Trump's not going anywhere because of this. But I guess you can just keep saying that for the next 4 or 8 years and you'll eventually be right!

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 13:06:49


596B6C7D7A6B7C436F7C650E0 wrote:
I don't think you afford to lose $100!

Trump's not going anywhere because of this. But I guess you can just keep saying that for the next 4 or 8 years and you'll eventually be right!


Like I said - you may have a problem.

Call 1-800-522-4700.

As far as our president.... I guess we'll see, huh?

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/13/17 at 14:47:34

Yeah.... I'm sure it's gonna go away... right web?

LOL

http://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-judiciary-committee-request-trump-jr-s-testimony-173400135.html

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by Serowbot on 07/13/17 at 15:45:10

The hits keep coming...

Quote:
Newly revealed intelligence shows Russian officials discussed meeting with associates or advisers to Donald Trump in 2015 just months before he declared his candidacy to become president, the Wall Street Journal reports.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/13/17 at 18:19:49


554B444548554E53210 wrote:
Yeah.... I'm sure it's gonna go away... right web?

LOL

http://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-judiciary-committee-request-trump-jr-s-testimony-173400135.html



That's meaningless......    ;D

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/14/17 at 05:03:14


495758595449524F3D0 wrote:
[quote author=596B6C7D7A6B7C436F7C650E0 link=1499799282/45#45 date=1499976054]I don't think you afford to lose $100!

Trump's not going anywhere because of this. But I guess you can just keep saying that for the next 4 or 8 years and you'll eventually be right!


Like I said - you may have a problem.

Call 1-800-522-4700.

As far as our president.... I guess we'll see, huh?[/quote]

Who's got the 800 number for big mouths who are all talk but no action?

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/17 at 05:36:02


657274787767150 wrote:
[quote author=554B444548554E53210 link=1499799282/45#47 date=1499982454]Yeah.... I'm sure it's gonna go away... right web?

LOL

http://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-judiciary-committee-request-trump-jr-s-testimony-173400135.html



That's meaningless......    ;D

Best regards,
[/quote]


LMAO - oh right... because.... you say it is, right?

Thanks for the laugh!

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/17 at 05:37:33


1E2C2B3A3D2C3B04283B22490 wrote:
[quote author=495758595449524F3D0 link=1499799282/45#46 date=1499976409][quote author=596B6C7D7A6B7C436F7C650E0 link=1499799282/45#45 date=1499976054]I don't think you afford to lose $100!

Trump's not going anywhere because of this. But I guess you can just keep saying that for the next 4 or 8 years and you'll eventually be right!


Like I said - you may have a problem.

Call 1-800-522-4700.

As far as our president.... I guess we'll see, huh?[/quote]

Who's got the 800 number for big mouths who are all talk but no action? [/quote]

There's not a number for that.

Why would you think that?

Oh... wait... I forgot... you have a grade-school mentality....

What's next web?  You gonna do some "Your mama" put downs?

Silly little boy.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/17 at 08:07:46

And the saga continues....

C'mon jr... LOL

http://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-american-lobbyist-says-trump-sons-meeting-134042050--politics.html

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/14/17 at 10:24:31

Piling on... but yeah, it's gonna go away... right??

http://www.yahoo.com/news/father-son-conservatives-writing-donald-110022177.html

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by MnSpring on 07/14/17 at 18:26:50

Who’s got the 800 number for big mouths who are all talk but no action?

FOUND ONE,

 It’s:   1-800-IMA-TROL

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by MnSpring on 07/14/17 at 18:31:48

Yahoo, ’News’ is such a,
Stellar,
     Quality,
           Totally  un-biased,

’News’ Source.

Not at all, like,  ‘Chicken Noodle News’
   (They Leaned from)

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/17 at 08:22:07

Just more lies piled on top....

How stupid are these people?  I mean really - that's not a rhetorical question - I really want to know.

http://thinkprogress.org/did-donald-trumps-lawyer-accidentally-make-a-huge-confession-about-the-meeting-with-the-russian-49469e9226ae

To go on TV and flat out lie about something that is easy to confirm... why??

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/17 at 15:00:05


617F70717C617A67150 wrote:
Just more lies piled on top....

How stupid are these people?  I mean really - that's not a rhetorical question - I really want to know.

http://thinkprogress.org/did-donald-trumps-lawyer-accidentally-make-a-huge-confession-about-the-meeting-with-the-russian-49469e9226ae

To go on TV and flat out lie about something that is easy to confirm... why??


Whoa... I might have this all wrong....

IF the secret service had to vet this meeting (if this idiot is telling the truth), then that would mean that tweety knew about - and potentially ATTENDED the meeting.

You see, jr didn't have SS protection at that time - the only reason the SS would have to vet the meeting is if the presidential candidate (at that time) knew about it or intended to attend it....

The plot thickens...

But yeah... this story's going nowhere, huh web?....

LMAO!!!

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/17/17 at 18:32:20


312F20212C312A37450 wrote:
Whoa... I might have this all wrong....


The meeting took place a Trump Tower, so yes the SS would and did have a presence there.  They are not going to let every last person just walk right in.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/17 at 19:06:16


3621272B2434460 wrote:
[quote author=312F20212C312A37450 link=1499799282/45#58 date=1500328805]
Whoa... I might have this all wrong....


The meeting took place a Trump Tower, so yes the SS would and did have a presence there.  They are not going to let every last person just walk right in.

Best regards,
[/quote]


Nope - that tower is a public space.  jr did not have SS protection.  The only reason they would have vetted that meeting is either if tweety knew about, or was at it.

But... as I've said....  I guess we'll just see, huh?

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/17/17 at 19:22:50


554B444548554E53210 wrote:
[color=#0000ff]Nope - that tower is a public space.  jr did not have SS protection.  The only reason they would have vetted that meeting is either if tweety knew about, or was at it.
color]


The SS were at Trump Tower in August of 2016.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/armed-man-busted-trump-tower-secret-service-calls-cops-article-1.2736425

Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/17/17 at 19:39:39


4057515D5242300 wrote:
The SS were at Trump Tower in August of 2016.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/armed-man-busted-trump-tower-secret-service-calls-cops-article-1.2736425

Best regards,


OK... but.... when was the jr meeting?



Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/17 at 05:45:00

As predicted (not that hard of a prediction) the Trump Jr issues is dying away. Collusion, in and of itself, is not a federal crime. Nothing came out of the meeting, in fact, the reason for the meeting itself was false. There's nothing there. Hard to believe the Democrats could make themselves look any worse, but they did.

Move on.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 05:50:12


437176676071665975667F140 wrote:
As predicted (not that hard of a prediction) the Trump Jr issues is dying away.

LOL - you'd like that huh?  Sorry web - it's far from going away.  

Collusion, in and of itself, is not a federal crime. Nothing came out of the meeting, in fact, the reason for the meeting itself was false.

The reason for the meeting - spelled out in jr's email - was to get information from a foreign agent that was illegally obtained.

Yeah - that's just a tiny bit illegal...   You see, its all about the intent.

There's nothing there. Hard to believe the Democrats could make themselves look any worse, but they did.

Move on.


LOL - could you imagine if Obama had this happen??  C'mon - you can't be that hypocritical.... can you??

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by pg on 07/18/17 at 06:54:19

Hard to believe the Democrats could make themselves look any worse, but they did.


Further, former Secretary of State Clinton’s initial opposition coincided with a $500,000 speech her husband gave in Moscow – a link her 2016 campaign fought to downplay in the press, according to WikiLeaks-released documents.

Are ya going to blame the WikiLeaks on Russian hackers?   ;D

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/18/hillary-clinton-sided-with-russia-on-sanctions-as-bill-made-500g-on-moscow-speech.html


Best regards,

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/17 at 06:54:50

I've asked before and have yet to be told, but who said the information she claimed to have was obtained illegally?

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 07:16:37


556760717667704F637069020 wrote:
I've asked before and have yet to be told, but who said the information she claimed to have was obtained illegally?


Seriously??  Well, if it was above board, there wouldn't have been a meeting.... jr could have gone on google and got the info.

LOL - C'mon - how simple can it be?  jr was tempted - READ HIS EMAIL FOR PETE'S SAKE!!!

He got caught and now... well... I guess we'll see.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 07:19:58


5E494F434C5C2E0 wrote:
Hard to believe the Democrats could make themselves look any worse, but they did.


Further, former Secretary of State Clinton’s initial opposition coincided with a $500,000 speech her husband gave in Moscow – a link her 2016 campaign fought to downplay in the press, according to WikiLeaks-released documents.

Are ya going to blame the WikiLeaks on Russian hackers?   ;D

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/18/hillary-clinton-sided-with-russia-on-sanctions-as-bill-made-500g-on-moscow-speech.html


Best regards,



Zzzzzzzz... hmm... what?

Oh yeah... this is OLD news.  Nothing illegal - but I get your tactic.

Draw attention away from the matter at hand and point fingers at hillary and bill.

Nice try... next.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/17 at 07:40:23

Seriously??  Well, if it was above board, there wouldn't have been a meeting.... jr could have gone on google and got the info.

Seriously back at you. If person A has direct knowledge of something person B did and it's not on google, are you telling me it's illegal if I as person C, agree to talk to person A about it?

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 07:44:54


605255444352457A56455C370 wrote:
Seriously??  Well, if it was above board, there wouldn't have been a meeting.... jr could have gone on google and got the info.

Seriously back at you. If person A has direct knowledge of something person B did and it's not on google, are you telling me it's illegal if I as person C, agree to talk to person A about it?


YES!!  Collusion in this case is ILLEGAL!!!!

jr's INTENT is at question.  This isn't a private business matter - this is working with a foreign contact to conspire against a political opponent.
There are different standards of how they must conduct themselves.

Again I ask - what if Obama had done this?  If you're going to try and sit there and tell me - "that would have been fine" - you're a liar.
Seriously...How can you not see how bad this is?

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by WebsterMark on 07/18/17 at 08:16:42

No. You are wrong. You said: ..."was to get information from a foreign agent that was illegally obtained."

First off; you implied as fact the information obtained by the woman who arranged the meeting was illegally obtained. That's a sneaky, clever way to drag more into this than there is. It's the same reason why you say the Russians hacked the election. They didn't 'hack' the election and nobody alleges that.

So first off, the information she had was not illegally obtained. In fact, she had no information so you can stop saying that "illegally obtained" phrase.

Second, there was no information so there was no crime. If she had illegally obtain information that came from the Russian government and a conspiracy to knowingly commit a crime was discussed and actions begun, Trump Jr would be sunk. He'd have already resigned by now no doubt and there would be real talk about prosecution, not made up talk by talking heads.

And no, it's not that bad and certainly isn't criminal. I listened to what Trump Jr said and I believe him when he says in hindsight, it was stupid to take the meeting.  

This is a 100% political issue. And from a political point of view, he's guilty. He never should have spoken to this woman.

but, if you're going to drag Obama and Hilary into this, fine. Go ahead, but you'll have to explain why this woman was given a very specific pass by AG Lynch.

Another reason this is dying: the Dems have blood on their hands. they've decided they want this political witch hunt to go away. the Clintons did this very thing over and over. The only difference is the media protected them by not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

this is a nothing burger! It's going nowhere and for good reason.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by verslagen1 on 07/18/17 at 09:05:27

So how's this different from hiring an ex brit spy to "obtain" information on trump?

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 09:08:11


192B2C3D3A2B3C032F3C254E0 wrote:
No. You are wrong. You said: ..."was to get information from a foreign agent that was illegally obtained."

OK, I'll admit I may have over assumed - but my assumption was based on the FACT that jr was getting information from a foreign source, and that information is questionable at best.

First off; you implied as fact the information obtained by the woman who arranged the meeting was illegally obtained. That's a sneaky, clever way to drag more into this than there is. It's the same reason why you say the Russians hacked the election. They didn't 'hack' the election and nobody alleges that.

Um, I hate to break this to you... but, it's been proven that russia hacked the election.  You may want to read these:

http://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/06/heres-the-public-evidence-that-supports-the-idea-that-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-election/?utm_term=.0037db9cbf4b

We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.

So first off, the information she had was not illegally obtained. In fact, she had no information so you can stop saying that "illegally obtained" phrase.

I'll own that.  But you have to own that jr's INTENT was illegal.

Second, there was no information so there was no crime.

Wrong.  Again, it goes to INTENT.

If she had illegally obtain information that came from the Russian government and a conspiracy to knowingly commit a crime was discussed and actions begun, Trump Jr would be sunk. He'd have already resigned by now no doubt and there would be real talk about prosecution, not made up talk by talking heads.

It's not made up... sheesh!  He confessed to it in his emails!!  ("if it's what you say, I love it")

And no, it's not that bad and certainly isn't criminal. I listened to what Trump Jr said and I believe him when he says in hindsight, it was stupid to take the meeting.  

LMAO - uh huh.  So if this were done by the Obama team... that would have been fine?  Right?

This is a 100% political issue. And from a political point of view, he's guilty. He never should have spoken to this woman.

No, from a legal point of view he's guilty.

but, if you're going to drag Obama and Hilary into this, fine. Go ahead, but you'll have to explain why this woman was given a very specific pass by AG Lynch.

Good question.  It's completely the wrong context, but go ahead - ask that question.  It doesn't take away from jr's INTENT

Another reason this is dying: the Dems have blood on their hands. they've decided they want this political witch hunt to go away. the Clintons did this very thing over and over.

Did what "thing"?  Colluded with the russians?

The only difference is the media protected them by not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Please - show me those acts of collusion that got "covered up".

this is a nothing burger! It's going nowhere and for good reason.


LOL - just because you keep saying it, doesn't make it true.  But hey, whatever makes you feel better....

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 09:13:53


33203736292422202B74450 wrote:
So how's this different from hiring an ex brit spy to "obtain" information on trump?


Well, for one - that dossier is part of an FBI investigation.  And two - I've read the conspiracies about how a supposed "hillary-friendly" agency "paid" for that info....

Talk about weak sauce.

We have jr confessing to this and posting his emails...

You want to sit there and tell me that if this had been a tactic by the Obama administration, you'd be OK with it?  If so - you're a liar.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by verslagen1 on 07/18/17 at 09:38:25


475956575A475C41330 wrote:
[quote author=33203736292422202B74450 link=1499799282/60#72 date=1500393927]So how's this different from hiring an ex brit spy to "obtain" information on trump?


Well, for one - that dossier is part of an FBI investigation.  And two - I've read the conspiracies about how a supposed "hillary-friendly" agency "paid" for that info....

Talk about weak sauce.

We have jr confessing to this and posting his emails...

You want to sit there and tell me that if this had been a tactic by the Obama administration, you'd be OK with it?  If so - you're a liar.[/quote]
Apparently the FBI were given the info and did not pay for it.

Quote:
Steele had been gathering while working for a Washington research firm hired by supporters of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, according to the people familiar with the agreement.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-once-planned-to-pay-former-british-spy-who-authored-controversial-trump-dossier/2017/02/28/896ab470-facc-11e6-9845-576c69081518_story.html?utm_term=.d9fe1592059c

But you obscure the question with fake news.

How is this different?

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 09:44:24


485B4C4D525F595B500F3E0 wrote:
[quote author=475956575A475C41330 link=1499799282/60#74 date=1500394433][quote author=33203736292422202B74450 link=1499799282/60#72 date=1500393927]So how's this different from hiring an ex brit spy to "obtain" information on trump?


Well, for one - that dossier is part of an FBI investigation.  And two - I've read the conspiracies about how a supposed "hillary-friendly" agency "paid" for that info....

Talk about weak sauce.

We have jr confessing to this and posting his emails...

You want to sit there and tell me that if this had been a tactic by the Obama administration, you'd be OK with it?  If so - you're a liar.[/quote]
Apparently the FBI were given the info and did not pay for it.

Quote:
Steele had been gathering while working for a Washington research firm hired by supporters of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, according to the people familiar with the agreement.


OK - call them "supporters" all you'd like.  They were NOT part of the campaign team.  HUGE difference.  You realize that jr was acting as part of the campaign, right - not just a "supporter"?  LOL - it's funny - the supporters mentioned in jr's emails were the russians!  How about that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-once-planned-to-pay-former-british-spy-who-authored-controversial-trump-dossier/2017/02/28/896ab470-facc-11e6-9845-576c69081518_story.html?utm_term=.d9fe1592059c

But you obscure the question with fake news.

How is this different?[/quote]

What fake news?  Please tell me how jr's meeting was fake?  True, he changed his story like three times... but it ain't fake.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 10:01:45

More on the pile from Yahoo regarding WSJ article:

The Journal urged Trump, his family and his associates to release any pertinent information regarding meetings, communications and business dealings with Russians or anyone connected to Russia, with the rationale that the “short-term political damage” is preferable to “death by a thousand cuts of selective leaks.”

Although Trump is regularly pilloried by more liberal editorial boards, the Journal’s caustic attack against the Republican commander in chief is striking. The paper is under the umbrella of News Corporation, Rupert Murdoch’s media conglomerate, which that operates the Trump-friendly Fox News.


Oh... ouch!!  

But yeah... this is going nowhere.....lol

http://www.yahoo.com/news/wsj-torches-trump-don-jr-created-appearance-conspiracy-144342071.html

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/18/17 at 10:04:35

I Told you Fox is no safe haven for Trump.
It's as establishment as CNN.

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 12:44:55

So, since this is a "dying issue" - lol... let's review the timeline of this whole "non-story", shall we?

On the outset:

No Russia meeting

Initially, those around the Trump campaign denied any meetings had happened. In a July 2016 interview with CNN, Trump Jr. said accusations from the Clinton campaign that Russia was involved with hacking the Democratic National Committee were “disgusting” and “so phony.”

“It just goes to show you their exact moral compass,” Trump Jr. says. “They’ll say anything to be able to win this. I mean, this is time and time again, lie after lie. He won’t say, ‘Well, I say this.’ We hear ‘experts,’ you know, his house cat once said this is what’s happening with the Russians. It’s disgusting. It’s so phony.”

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway and Vice President Mike Pence said the same thing in interviews with CBS News’ John Dickerson.

“Did anyone involved in the Trump campaign have any contact with Russians trying to meddle with the election?” Dickerson asked Conway in 2016.

“Absolutely not,” Conway replied. “And I discussed that with the president-elect just last night. Those conversations never happened. I hear people saying it like it’s a fact on television. That is just not only inaccurate and false, but it’s dangerous.”

Dickerson repeated the question in a January interview with Pence. “Did any adviser or anybody in the Trump campaign have any contact with the Russians who were trying to meddle in the elections?” he asked.

“Well of course not,” said Pence. “I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy.”

July 8: Discussed adoption with a Russian lawyer

After the New York Times reported that Trump Jr. had met with a Kremlin-linked lawyer during the campaign, his July 8 statement made no mention of the fact he was promised incriminating information on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government.

“It was a short introductory meeting,” Trump Jr. said in a statement, reportedly approved by the president. “I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow-up. I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.”


July 9: Also discussed the campaign with the Russian lawyer

The very next day, when the Times reported that Trump Jr. had been promised dirt on Clinton, he released a new statement.

“I was asked to have a meeting by an acquaintance I knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant with an individual who I was told might have information helpful to the campaign,” said Trump Jr. “I was not told her name prior to the meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to attend, but told them nothing of the substance. We had a meeting in June 2016. After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information. She then changed subjects and began discussing the adoption of Russian children and mentioned the Magnitsky Act. It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting. I interrupted and advised her that my father was not an elected official, but rather a private citizen, and that her comments and concerns were better addressed if and when he held public office. The meeting lasted approximately 20 to 30 minutes. As it ended, my acquaintance apologized for taking up our time. That was the end of it and there was no further contact or follow-up of any kind. My father knew nothing of the meeting or these events.”

July 11: Wanted Kremlin dirt on Clinton

Moments before the Times published a story on emails arranging the meeting, Trump Jr. released them on Twitter.

The emails showed that he took the meeting after being promised “official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” which Trump’s eldest son verified when he released his emails. Trump Jr. responded 17 minutes later that he “[loved] it,” and the meeting occurred six days later.

The emails also contradicted his second statement. In it, he said that he told campaign chair Paul Manafort and his brother-in-law/White House adviser Jared Kushner nothing of the substance of the meeting, but per the emails Trump Jr. posted to Twitter, he had forwarded them the exchange. The subject line on the email was “Russia – Clinton – private and confidential.”

July 14: Expanding number of people in meeting

After reports initially indicated that there were four people in the meeting, new reports emerged that there were actually at least eight attendees, including Russian-American lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin, who once served in the Soviet military. President Trump’s attorney, Jay Sekulow, attempted to use the Secret Service as a buffer against accusations of uncouth dealings.

“Well, I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why the Secret Service allowed these people in,” said Sekulow in a Sunday morning interview with ABC News. “The president had Secret Service protection at that point, and that raised a question with me.”

Within hours, the Secret Service had rebuffed Sekulow’s attempts to place blame on them.

“Donald Trump Jr. was not a protectee of the U.S. Secret Service in June, 2016,” Secret Service spokesman Mason Brayman told Reuters. “Thus, we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with at that time.”


(Yahoo News)

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by Trippah on 07/18/17 at 13:00:55

I just want to make it clear, I was NOT at the meeting. :D

Title: Re: Trump Jr
Post by T And T Garage on 07/18/17 at 14:24:12


7D5B4059594841290 wrote:
I just want to make it clear, I was NOT at the meeting. :D



LOL - me either!

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