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Message started by rong on 07/03/17 at 19:50:34

Title: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella oil
Post by rong on 07/03/17 at 19:50:34

Hi everyone,

As I understand it, at the end of last year, Shell was changing the oil makeup of the dino Rotella T Triple Protection 15W40. Even the label on the bottle was changing. At the time, I wrote the Savage website about it, and most of the responses said that they were buying all of the old version that they could so that they wouldn't have to worry about it for awhile.

Now that time has gone by, is the consensus of opinion that this new version of dino Rotella ok to use in the S40? ... Open to your thoughts.

Thanks for your help.

Ron G

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by Ruttly on 07/03/17 at 21:23:33

Think they call it T4 15/40wt and add alittle Redline ZDDP and your good to go ! I use 1/2 to 3/4 oz. of Redline at oil change.

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by Eegore on 07/04/17 at 11:54:41

I have a few gallons of both T4 and T5, would it matter which was tossed in?

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by verslagen1 on 07/04/17 at 12:19:57

never t5, t4 there's 2, one for cars, one for everything else.
if in doubt, look for jaso ma

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by Eegore on 07/04/17 at 16:24:25

Whats

jaso ma ?

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by verslagen1 on 07/04/17 at 16:39:14

Japanese Oil spec

T4

Quote:

15W-40 CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4; ACEA E9; JASO DH-2, MA, MA2; Caterpillar ECF-2, ECF-3; Cummins CES 20086, 81; Detroit Fluids Specification (DFS) 93K222, 93K218; Deutz DQC III-10 LA; MACK EO-S 4.5, EO-O Premium Plus; MAN M3575; MB-Approval 228.31; MTU Category 2.1; Allison TES-439; Volvo VDS-4.5, VDS-4

T6 full synthetic heavy duty engine oil

Quote:

API: CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4
ACEA E9; JASO DH-2; Cummins CES 20086; Volvo VDS-4.5; Detroit Fluid Specification (DFS) 93K222, Caterpillar ECF-2/ECF-3, MAN M3575, JASO MA/MA2, Allison TES 439, MB-Approval 228.31

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by xaman on 07/05/17 at 06:52:38

Do you think the T6 in 5/40 weight is OK in Texas summer heat? Or should I run something thicker for these hottest months?

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by rong on 07/05/17 at 11:38:08

Verslagen, I know there is some discussion about adding ZDDP to some of the oils, ... but using the old Rotella T Triple Protection 15W40, most people felt it had enough ZDDP (therefore not necessary to add ZDDP). Is it ok to assume this is also true with the new T4 (with the jaso ma designation) ?

Thanks,
Ron G

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by verslagen1 on 07/05/17 at 12:28:43

2E373B3738560 wrote:

Do you think the T6 in 5/40 weight is OK in Texas summer heat? Or should I run something thicker for these hottest months?

Going to thicker oil actually makes the engine hotter.
You will see an extra 10° ave over 5w-40
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1283117891/0

If you're running any hotter than I am then get your head examined. :-?

Title: Re: Is it ok to use the newly changed dino Rotella
Post by Eegore on 07/05/17 at 14:15:05

2D3E2928373A3C3E356A5B0 wrote:

never t5, t4 there's 2, one for cars, one for everything else.
if in doubt, look for jaso ma

So the T4 I have sitting out back is SAE 15W-40 "Heavy Duty Diesel" engine oil.

The JASO MA quote you provided matches almost everything listed on the DSS (MSDS) so I assume its ok. I hope so since I have about 24 gallons of it.

I'll toss in some ZDDP as well I guess.