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Message started by Jeremy on 06/18/17 at 07:42:09

Title: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Jeremy on 06/18/17 at 07:42:09

I'm slowly putting my '95 Savage back together.  I had the left side case cover off to paint it, but I can't seem to get it seated now that I'm putting it back on.  Everything towards the front seems good, but towards the back along the top, there is about an 1/8th inch gap that I just can't seem to get closed.  If you look dead on at the left side cover, the spot that won't seat is at about 2 o'clock.

If I take off the gear that the starter motor engages, it seems to fit snugly, so I'm guessing that has something to do with it.

Been looking at The Motorcycle Handyman pictures and I think I have everything lined up correctly.  The post seats in the engine block, the spring goes over the post, then the gear goes on next, then the side cover.  The gears are all meshing, so that isn't the problem.  

Is there some sort of trick that I'm missing?

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Jeremy on 06/18/17 at 07:47:50

http://https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Savage/i-KndNXrx/0/92c1b467/L/IMG_1463-L.jpg

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Jeremy on 06/18/17 at 08:04:34

I probably should have paid more attention when I took this cover off last year  ;D

I do notice that if I don't put the spring I have behind the gear that meshes with the starter gear, everything seems good.  

I had the spring in my little baggie and it fits perfectly on the post, and since I can't see it in any pictures, it seems like it must belong behind the gear and is just hidden from view.

It's a pretty thin spring and tough to see, but can anyone verify if the spring belongs where I have it in this pic?

http://https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Savage/i-Pg3sfKq/0/bfc93154/L/IMG_1464-XL%20%281%29-L.jpg

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by verslagen1 on 06/18/17 at 08:20:39


5C656264777F78160 wrote:
I probably should have paid more attention when I took this cover off last year  ;D

I do notice that if I don't put the spring I have behind the gear that meshes with the starter gear, everything seems good.  

I had the spring in my little baggie and it fits perfectly on the post, and since I can't see it in any pictures, it seems like it must belong behind the gear and is just hidden from view.

It's a pretty thin spring and tough to see, but can anyone verify if the spring belongs where I have it in this pic?

http://https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Savage/i-Pg3sfKq/0/bfc93154/L/IMG_1464-XL%20%281%29-L.jpg

There's not supposed to be a spring there.  Just take it out.

If ever you are confused on what parts go where, look at a OEM parts diagram
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1290238904/0#0

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/17 at 08:26:23

I agree with Versy , doesn't belong there , remove it , should be a thin shim/washer behind that gear.

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/17 at 08:28:55

Get a manual , also parts pictures can be helpful on arrangement !

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by verslagen1 on 06/18/17 at 08:48:31


123534342C39400 wrote:
I agree with Versy , doesn't belong there , remove it , should be a thin shim/washer behind that gear.

No washers on the gears, only the torque limiter!
And he doesn't have one.

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/17 at 10:33:23

Odd mine has I guess you would call them a thrust washer behind the gear.

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/17 at 10:55:25

I stand corrected the parts breakdown show just what you said. I will have that cover off  in a week or two to check cam chain & swap out the clutch rod so I will check that too. Thanks Versy

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by verslagen1 on 06/18/17 at 10:56:01


56717070687D040 wrote:
Odd mine has I guess you would call them a thrust washer behind the gear.

Straight gears shouldn't need them.
If yours run fine with them... ok, but don't feel like you have to run out and get them if you don't have them.
The torque limiter has them and many times someone will replace them on the idle gear and cause the starter to bind up.

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/17 at 11:00:54

So 1996 is the first year of the torque limiter ?

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Jeremy on 06/18/17 at 11:02:43

Thanks!!!  I guess I have to go searching my workbench for those missing parts.

I tried looking on the parts blowups at bike bandit, but couldn't find what I was looking for.

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Jeremy on 06/18/17 at 11:03:38


1D3A3B3B23364F0 wrote:
So 1996 is the first year of the torque limiter ?


If so, that'll make my life a lot easier. I may not have to search for the missing part!

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/17 at 11:03:54

Use suzukipartsmonster.com

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by verslagen1 on 06/18/17 at 11:15:16


7A43444251595E300 wrote:
[quote author=1D3A3B3B23364F0 link=1497796929/0#10 date=1497808854]So 1996 is the first year of the torque limiter ?


If so, that'll make my life a lot easier. I may not have to search for the missing part![/quote]
If that's your pic of the stator side, then you don't have a torque limiter.
and yes, I think '96 is the 1st year.

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Jeremy on 06/18/17 at 12:02:28

Thanks! Glad I don't have to rummage around for tiny missing parts.

I guess the next question is where that spring goes.

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Jeremy on 06/18/17 at 18:27:40

One more question, do I need sealant when putting a new gasket on the left side cover?

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/17 at 19:15:25

Factory gasket has sealant on it , most others do not. Just a tiny bit wouldn't hurt , no too much you don't want any excess sealant in the engine !

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Ruttly on 06/18/17 at 19:17:53

Sorry I was thinking the right side cover, no sealant needed on left side , but if you must , just not much !

Title: Re: Magneto (Left) Cover Not Seating
Post by Jeremy on 06/19/17 at 06:52:10

Thanks!

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