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Title: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/09/17 at 13:00:59 Ok, so I bought fork seals, clips and cover from a Suzuki Dealer for my 87 Savage. Had someone install them for me... Didn't work out. So here I go into unchartered territory. I looked at a chart, made sure I had all my pcs there. Followed a youtube video step by step The letters on the seal are facing up.. the clip snapped in the groove, so they are down far enough, right? Used a pipe to evenly push them down. When I say they are leaking.... understatement of the century. When I pulled the dust cover up, fork oil was puddled inside. After my ride, I had to wipe down the front brakes wipe the forks.... Pretty messy!!! I tried wiping down with rubbing alcohol and cleaning the seals. Made that little flat piece out of a milk carton. Any ideas here? And if there is a mistake that would cause them to leak and puddle up under the cover that makes you think.... "no one would actually do that" .... go ahead and run that by me too ;D |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/17 at 13:10:41 Jenn, I've replaced my seals once, but other than that I can only shrug. Perhaps if you can list all parts you used and a link to the video maybe some one can spot something. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by stewmills on 06/09/17 at 13:58:38 If you got oil all over your brake pads, I wouldn't trust them for much other than gently slowing down. I don't think you can "clean" oil out of the brake pad material...once it's in there, it's in there. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by gizzo on 06/09/17 at 15:41:12 is the chrome on the fork leg in good condition? if the chrome's chipped or pitted or rusty, that's where the oil gets out. other than that or a dented fork tube, the culprit can pretty much only be installing error (I've seen them fitted upside down!) or wrong parts used. error could be oerrorientation but you've described fitting the right way up, dirty work space, damaging seal while fitting, maybe an old seal gone hard. overfilling the fork oil. you haven't been doing big jumps, right? my fork seals failed during the trailer ride home when I bought it. any other thoughts? |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/09/17 at 16:58:22 You need to use a seal driver. What type of pipe did you use? Hopefully you didn't score the seal. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by ohiomoto on 06/09/17 at 18:47:11 Seal driver = PVC pipe Never fails me. :) |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/17 at 19:42:36 Okay, they got the seals wrong, maybe Upside Down wrong, but they got the forks apart and back together. Unless you kicked them in the shins and talked ugly about their Mom, maybe you can get them to help you fix Their screwup.. and, You can get them to come here and make sure they don't screw up |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/15/17 at 05:44:45 Used a PVC pipe. Definitely no big jumps....ever! Lol I'm not counting solely on my front brakes. I'm pretty well taking it easy getting the feel of this bike. I used the Clymer to make sure I had all the parts. The only thing new were the seals, clamps, and covers. But something I remembered AFTER my post, was the clips and covers came from the dealership. I bought the seals from a little mom and pop cycle shop, and never considered the fact that they could have been on the shelf for who knows how long. I ordered another set of seals, and I have an extra set of forks, so I'm going to try with those. I wondered about the whole upside down thing. I'll post a video of the link in a bit. Gotta get to work. Thanks so much everyone!! |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/15/17 at 05:49:56 No Justin, I didn't kick them and talk about their momma, but if they get my seals wrong again I might. I may just do a little investigating around my area and find someone who CAN do it and not just SAYS they can do it. And I don't know if they will spend much time on this site, but you can bet I have done a lot of reading to them. ;D |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/15/17 at 08:12:57 Ok...so this was the video used for reference.... without the steps for lowering. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/17 at 09:16:29 I see,, well, that's very interesting.. Sure didn't take long to watch it. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/15/17 at 10:28:53 It sure didn't. But considering I don't know how long of a video it SHOULD be... I don't really have much to compare it to. I'm trying here... I'm REALLY REALLY trying. I don't think I was this filthy or ruined so many clothes even as a child!!!! :) I was thinking that someone with a general knowledge (I know, open mouth insert foot... because the knowledge is obviously lacking) would be able to see what they needed from that video. I have tackled a lot of things on this bike...even though some things have taken 2 or 3 tries. But after seeing two complete failures from people who are WAY more knowledgeable than myself, I'm feeling a little leery of trying it on my own. Is this really hard to do, or just something you can't rush? If someone were to take their time...an average person...not the super skilled like many of you... how long should this project take? Realistically? I'm asking because I'm trying to figure out if they rushed through it? if I had bad seals? or if two people ( working separately and at totally separate times) actually managed to put seals in upside down. Anyone on here live in Southern Indiana? I'll pay you. lol |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by FL Savage on 06/15/17 at 10:45:40 767972727F6E736B1C0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/15/17 at 10:50:13 23273B39606067520 wrote:
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/scope.gif[/quote] Yeah, that seems to be a common reaction on here. lol |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/17 at 11:41:14 NOW it's longer.. Before, it was almost nonexistent.. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/15/17 at 12:09:45 Still only 12 minutes Justin. Lol. So seriously about how long should someone spend on this type of job on average? If they were taking the time to do it right? |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/17 at 12:34:54 No idea. Depends on the Start point, and experience. If START equals Forks on the bench And experience is sufficient to Not hafta study every step, it's gonna go at a good clip. If you have never done it, hafta build tools and Move Slow, like me, that could be an all day sucker. If someone has the ability to disassemble and Do the job, they just screwed up on the one step they really shouldn't have, then by Correcting That Mistake is all you have to do. They owe you the work, if you paid for it. You should be right there every second. FWIW, a woman from Hawaii did hers, alone, all by herself. She was just about able to do anything.. Wish she would move in next door. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by verslagen1 on 06/15/17 at 12:43:41 You should be able to do it comfortably in a day. Read, watch, work, post, post answered, etc. In a hurry, know what you're doing, tools on hand, couple of hours. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by gizzo on 06/16/17 at 17:42:15 737C77777A6B766E190 wrote:
In your OP you mentioned that the letters on the seals were visible. I can't remember ever seeing an oil seal with the dimensions and brand mark on the inside of the seal so if that's the case, they should be up the right way already? If it's upside down, you'll see a cavity between the outer wall of the seal and the inner sealing surface. There'll also be a spring running around the inside wall of the seal. Got a photo of it before you start tearing down? Just for our interest. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/16/17 at 22:46:01 I'll take a picture when I open it open |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/17 at 22:57:31 22383C3E3F013023252338353634510 wrote:
In your OP you mentioned that the letters on the seals were visible. I can't remember ever seeing an oil seal with the dimensions and brand mark on the inside of the seal so if that's the case, they should be up the right way already? If it's upside down, you'll see a cavity between the outer wall of the seal and the inner sealing surface. There'll also be a spring running around the inside wall of the seal. Got a photo of it before you start tearing down? Just for our interest.[/quote] Valid points. |
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Title: Re: Fork seals leaking.... UNDERSTATEMENT!! Post by JennC on 06/25/17 at 12:40:58 So the seals weren't upside down. Pretty sure they were bad seals. I had an extra set of for tubes and used those (just to be safe) with some new seals. Been on for several days and no problems.. well no problem from those. I have a brand new problem I'll be asking about later today. One day this thing will be right. Lol |
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