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Message started by MShipley on 06/08/17 at 07:03:13

Title: 1st things 1st
Post by MShipley on 06/08/17 at 07:03:13

Do you use 1st gear? I find it annoying. Winds up too quick and a bit lurchy. I typically start in 2nd, I find these bikes have plenty of torque to get you going smoothly and quickly in 2nd. Only time I use first is from a dead stop going UP hill. What about you?

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/17 at 07:41:04

I Enjoy shifting. Even before the pulley swap I used first.
I would be willing to start off in second IF I had a Sixth.
But, I guess I will have to settle for having a Fifth.
Anyone have a shot glass?

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by ohiomoto on 06/08/17 at 08:19:05

Use first all the time.  I think I would need to slip the clutch a bit with my 18" wheel and I value my clutch.  

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/08/17 at 08:45:15

I always use first (with one exception). Starting off in second requires excessive clutch slippage and the clutch will wear sooner.

My only exception is a gate drop on an MX track. In that case I will do a WOT whole-shot in second allowing me to not shift, or just shift to third, prior to entering the first turn. On a dead start harescramble I will still use first gear because I use the "kick-n-release" method.

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by Serowbot on 06/08/17 at 09:08:07

I skip 1st a lot on my Sporty,.. but the Savage seems to have a fairly long first gear...
I do skip 4th a lot unless I'm doing fast acceleration...

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by Dave on 06/08/17 at 09:16:34

I have an 18" rear wheel, a Kawasaki front pulley (2 teeth more), and a Kawasaki rear pulley (3 teeth less).....and that makes the gearing really tall and I have to start out in 1st.....every time!

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by ohiomoto on 06/08/17 at 09:56:00


3A30343E353C38316F696D5D0 wrote:
I always use first (with one exception). Starting off in second requires excessive clutch slippage and the clutch will wear sooner.

My only exception is a gate drop on an MX track. In that case I will do a WOT whole-shot in second allowing me to not shift, or just shift to third, prior to entering the first turn. On a dead start harescramble I will still use first gear because I use the "kick-n-release" method.
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You're pulling holeshots on the Savage?!

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/08/17 at 10:05:37


696E6F696B697269060 wrote:
You're pulling holeshots on the Savage?!


You ought to see it go through the woops section!  ;)

I use first on all motorcycles (except as noted). It's not an optional gear. It's there so the rider can extract maximum performance with minimal wear. I've never ridden a Savage (configured as a Savage) so maybe there's something unique about the gearing that changed on my LS650. But I have owned dozens of motorcycles and all of them had a very useful 1st gear.

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by engineer on 06/08/17 at 18:16:23

I always use first gear to minimize slippage and maximize clutch life.  They went to the trouble to make and had their reasons for doing so.

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by batman on 06/14/17 at 18:07:51

I use all the gears and I use the clutch up and down ,I guess I like shifting, I'd hate a bike with an auto trans.

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by jcstokes on 06/14/17 at 18:19:59

I always use 1st, overcomes inertia.

Title: Re: 1st things 1st
Post by MMRanch on 06/14/17 at 21:10:16

 Hole-Shot

Ain't that when you hit the same hole twice ?

I've got the extra 2 teeth on the front pulley and don't need to shift till I'm about 30mph ... by then the cars have been left back at the light !  ;)


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