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Message started by TheHowler on 06/07/17 at 14:04:41

Title: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by TheHowler on 06/07/17 at 14:04:41

I've been looking at these forks on eBay, and I am wondering if there is some way to make them fit on the savage. I do not know if it would be possible to do a triple tree clamp switch. What do you guys think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/45-48mm-Suspension-Front-Fork-Lower-Triple-Clamps-Black-Tree-For-TaoTao-motor-/262862810892?hash=item3d33d82f0c:g:0yAAAOSwdGFYoWZf&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Golden Front Fork Upgrade Fit
Post by TheHowler on 06/07/17 at 14:16:38

Pictures with shocks stats

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Golden Front Fork Upgrade Fit
Post by TheHowler on 06/07/17 at 14:17:33

Folks. About $150 for forks and Triple tree clamp

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/17 at 15:11:18

Where you gonna hang your caliper ?

Ask Gary from nj , he might know about them.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Golden Front Fork Upgrade Fit
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/07/17 at 15:15:20

A couple of thoughts;

With the right tools and know how, you can make almost any forks fit. What is your experience with customizing mechanical devices.

What wheel hub and brakes will you be adapting? Do you want the front wheel to match the rear? What steering head bearing will work with these forks in the stock head tube?

Why those forks? Why not a known brand like Showa, Kayaba or WP? Those are unknown forks from an unknown manufacturer. What is the valving stack? What is the method of dampening? Where will you get technical support and parts?

What else are you going to do you the Savage to accommodate those forks?

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by TheHowler on 06/07/17 at 16:09:03

These forks because they're gold and that's cool, good for cafe' racer look. Also it's hard to beat $150 for a front end.

Would you be able to fit or adapt the 240mm rod through the stock head tube? - Of course, I've never done this before and I don't wanna end up owning a $150 dollar pair of shocks that can't be added.

My experience is moderate when it comes to mechanical devices. Hopefully would be able to keep the current stock hub and brake, but idk.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/07/17 at 18:40:30

If you want to keep the stock hub you'll probably have to have spacers turned. The stock brake is garbage, why use it. The bracket on the forks determines caliper location and rotor size.

BTW, many sport bikes use Gold forks and can be had for the same price. And they come from real suspension companies. I have a strong feeling that these forks are total crap.

Good luck.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/17 at 19:27:53

Now there's an honest opinion. And thats who I wanted the opinion from.
Remember you get what you pay for !
Thanks Gary

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/17 at 19:52:09

Remember you get what you pay for !

Not necessarily.. in fact, seldom to rarely,, is that true.
What Is TRUE is
You Will Pay for what you get.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by Ruttly on 06/07/17 at 20:16:24

I will gladly pay for quality and especially when I'm riding it !
Poor quality compromises my safety.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by Dave on 06/08/17 at 01:41:24

My experience with a triple tree/fork yoke swap is......don't do this switch.

The Savage triple trees have a pretty big offset in the Savage, and the fork tubes are forward of the spindle a significant amount. This helps to reduce the trail that occurs when you have a shallow fork angle typical of a cruiser motorcycle. When you install a triple tree where the fork tubes are closer to the spindle....you increase the trail.

When I did my Cafe' bike I installed a set of Suzuki RM triple trees form a motocross bike. It required a lot of adapting, and looked good - but it steered badly. With the narrow clip on handlebars and increased trail it was very hard to initiate a turn. It would turn and corner fine - but you really had to push on the bars. MMRanch rode my bike and said when he got to the first turn and began the turn - "It felt like I was trying to bend a board".

Since then I went back to the stock fork yokes, and it steers much better.
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Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by 12Bravo on 06/08/17 at 09:04:18

The easiest swap that I have found was to use the complete front end from a Suzuki VS800/S50. It gives you an instant brake upgrade and puts the speedometer up in the triple tree.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by batman on 06/09/17 at 17:17:15

How tall are they? I think like others their most likely junk ,that you'll have a hard time fitting (if you even can)from a no name place ,with no future parts available .I think Elvis named a song after them "heartbreak Hotel"

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by Ruttly on 06/09/17 at 20:05:07

Ok , Let him be our test Guinea Pig !
Let us know how they fit and how they work.
I'm a little curious , they might work ok on Honda 90

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/17 at 07:08:08

Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?

The semantics say a lot.
What IS an Upgrade?
The word itself says it. It's a Better one of whatever you are talking about.
Finding something that requires metals being cast and machined and shipped and sold and everyone along the line makes money that is Really affordable might be a clue as to its quality.
Rarely do we get what we pay for, but nearby always do we pay for what we get.

Changing parts isn't necessarily an Upgrade.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by verslagen1 on 06/10/17 at 08:52:32

I guess that pretty much sums it up, you don't know if it is an upgrade.
All you know is that it fits some Chinese bike.
could have the same damping system as the savage.
You don't know what wheel fits, what disc, what caliper, what fender, or even if the stem bearings work.
Unless you live next to a junkyard and the owner will let you rummage as much as you want... you're looking at a long and expensive journey.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/10/17 at 09:21:19

But they're gold, dude.

Title: Re: Will inexpensive Fork Upgrade Fit?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/10/17 at 21:36:31

Dadgummitt! I didn't factor in
But they look good..