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Message started by pg on 06/05/17 at 10:20:15

Title: New Yammy ??
Post by pg on 06/05/17 at 10:20:15

It appears the Honda Goldwing is going to have some new competition. The unveiling is later today.....

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/transcontinental-touring

Best regards,

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Dave on 06/05/17 at 11:32:10

Is it another V-Twin?

I can't see Goldwing riders changing brands for a V-Twin Cruiser.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Rodger on 06/05/17 at 12:47:39

The Royal Star Venture is a 1300cc V-4. I owned a 1984 Venture, and it was a comfortable, powerful motorcycle. The RS Venture is a somewhat "cruiser-ized" version. I liked many of the Venture's features, but it was heavy and (for my 31" inseam) rather tall at the saddle. (If memory serves, Yamaha used a souped up version of that V-4 in the Vmax.)

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Dave on 06/05/17 at 18:31:31

I watched a bit of the live feed...there was too much yak for me to spend daylight hours watching them talk about the heated passenger back rest and accessory mounts. Now the link provide a YouTube video ad.....it is a big fancy V-Twin.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Rodger on 06/05/17 at 19:00:16

I stand corrected. Looks like the 2018 Star Venture is a 1700cc V-twin, according to the Ultimate Motorcycling website (The V-4 Venture 1300 having been discontinued in 2013.)

Not a lightweight at 950+ pounds, so I won't be going shopping for one.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by GreasyJonny on 06/05/17 at 19:09:43

6A647270787E751D0 wrote:

It's actually a 1900cc (1850 /113ci). Same motor as my stratoliner or the raider. My strat is pretty heavy, but it's so well balanced that it glides into turns. Literally the only time I notice it's heavy is when I have to back it up, and this new yammy has reverse! I'm no where near ready for the rolling couch, but I'm a big time yamaha fan and this excites me from a competition standpoint, and for features to trickle down into other models.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by pg on 06/05/17 at 19:39:52

I will at least give Yammy some credit for introducing a number of innovative new models the past few years. They have really been at the fore front.

Best regards,

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Ruttly on 06/05/17 at 19:40:59

Most Goldwingers are not V-Twin fans for their touring bike.

Goldwing stands alone,with 40+ years of refinement , don't think Honda is worried about another V-Twin.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 06/06/17 at 04:56:37

Just what the world needs, another monstrous V-twin. Harley sales are down 14% so far this year - perhaps the market is saturated.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by GreasyJonny on 06/06/17 at 05:26:44

444E4A404B42464F111713230 wrote:

Just what the world needs, another monstrous V-twin. Harley sales are down 14% so far this year - perhaps the market is saturated.

You're right, it's hard times everywhere. But I'm glad their staying commuted to the segment. And hey yamaha has been on fire the last few years in the everything but big bore cruiser segments.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Rodger on 06/06/17 at 05:53:48

5E65687F6E62797F646C617E0D0 wrote:

@Dave....I recall a Harley ad from years ago: big, burly biker, bedroll bungeed to the sissybar, frowning at the camera, captioned: "If you want all the comforts of home....stay there!"
;)

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by GreasyJonny on 06/06/17 at 06:15:45

2B253331393F345C0 wrote:

[quote author=5E65687F6E62797F646C617E0D0 link=1496683215/0#3 date=1496712691]I watched a bit of the live feed...there was too much yak for me to spend daylight hours watching them talk about the heated passenger back rest and accessory mounts. Now the link provide a YouTube video ad.....it is a big fancy V-Twin.

@Dave....I recall a Harley ad from years ago: big, burly biker, bedroll bungeed to the sissybar, frowning at the camera, captioned: "If you want all the comforts of home....stay there!"
;)[/quote]

Definitely a different image than Honda curated with "you meet the nicest people on a Honda"

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by SALB on 06/06/17 at 08:54:12

I think BMW's K1600GTL is the only thing that the Goldwing has to worry about.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/17 at 10:42:49

For sale
Honda fifty
Must sell
Pregnant
You meet the nicest people on a Honda.

Supposedly a real ad from years ago..

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by pg on 06/06/17 at 10:47:18

Those costs are really getting up there, pushing 30K OTD..... All the big cc cruisers are getting there as well. :-[

Best regards,

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by batman on 06/06/17 at 13:41:18

@$26,000 and you can't get parts on a yami after 10 years -I'd pass

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by pg on 06/06/17 at 14:41:18

5152475E525D070B330 wrote:

you can't get parts on a yami after 10 years -I'd pass

Is that common for Yammys?

Best regards,

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Dave on 06/06/17 at 15:52:06

What I thought was a little strange, was that the Yamaha "poster couples" had less than 100,000 miles on their bikes. The ST1100/1300 forum has quite a few members with 200,000 plus on their Honda ST's....and the record was more than 350,000 miles on the original motor without a rebuild. I betcha the Goldwing forum has similar high mileage results.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by LANCER on 06/06/17 at 16:53:08

3D2A2C202F3F4D0 wrote:

Those costs are really getting up there, pushing 30K OTD..... All the big cc cruisers are getting there as well. :-[Best regards,

There are quite a few cruisers in the $30-40k range.
That is why sales are sagging.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by Oldfeller on 06/06/17 at 18:35:36

7166606C6373010 wrote:

[quote author=5152475E525D070B330 link=1496683215/15#15 date=1496781678]you can't get parts on a yami after 10 years -I'd pass

Is that common for Yammys?

Best regards,[/quote]

Absolutely true, it is their policy to cut off all parts after 10 years, and then after 15 years they will liquidate any remaining dealer stocks of parts. Yamaha intends to sell you a NEW replacement bike.

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by MMRanch on 06/06/17 at 20:22:34

I am surprised Yamaha can sell anybody a bike.

Sure their machines run well but so many bikes end up being 20 years old with 20,000 miles on them ... then the next owner finds them in a barn somewhere.

I've had three Yamaha bikes all three had brush type alternators' and all three developed burned-out-electro magnets . Then I suffered sticker shock on replacement parts. One time I remanufactured a Honda permeant magnet instead of using another electro-magnet .

No more Yamaha s for me , they might have made a few good bikes but their Marketing department is not in touch with reality !

I really like the looks of the Scrambler with the Bolt motor. But , I've been burned by Yamaha three time and my Savage still runs GREAT !!!

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by buster6315 on 06/06/17 at 21:00:10

I had a RD400 years ago that seized-up on the freeway. I swore-off yamahas after that. Fast forward 30 years...........I just picked up a barn fresh 30 yr. old Virago 535 w/2800 miles. Cheap. Will try and start it soon. The Savage doesn't mind sharing the garage, must not know what virago means!

Title: Re: New Yammy ??
Post by jcstokes on 06/06/17 at 21:05:02

Interesting comment MM, I'm quite taken with the standard Bolt and have sat on one a few times. I could buy, but won't as the S40 does 90% of what I want in a bike. Kawasaki 800 is an interesting alternative.