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Title: Paris Agreement Post by WebsterMark on 05/31/17 at 05:59:28 I can't find facts to dispute anything below. 1) Warming over the last 50 years or so has averaged only about half of what computerized climate models can explain. Yet, those models are the basis for the Paris Agreement. 2) It is not obvious that recent warming is entirely the fault of our CO2 emissions. It is very possible that temperatures during the Medieval Warm Period were just as warm as today. Natural climate change exists. If we didn’t cause it, we can’t fix it. 3) Even if future warming increases to match the models, and all nations abide by the Paris commitments, we will avert only 0.3 deg. F warming by the year 2100. That’s less than 0.04 deg. F per decade, which is unmeasurable by current global temperature monitoring networks (satellites, surface thermometers, and weather balloons). 4) The cost of this unmeasurable impact on future global temperatures is variously estimated to be around $1 Trillion per year, primarily spent by the U.S. and a few other countries which drive global prosperity. As usual, the poor will be the hardest hit. That money could have been spent on clean water and providing electricity to the 1+ billion humans who still don’t have electricity. 5) China and India, which are burning coal like there is no tomorrow, don’t really have to do anything under the Agreement until 2030. It’s mainly up to the U.S. to cut our emissions, and send our wealth to poor countries where dictators will continue to enrich themselves. 6) Increasing CO2 levels have benefits, such as increased crop productivity and ‘global greening’. Life on Earth requires CO2, and over the last 60 years we have been monitoring its levels in the atmosphere, Mother Nature has been gobbling up 50% of what we emit to create even more life. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 05/31/17 at 06:45:04 Web, couldn't this GW issue just be the current avenue the Globalist are employing to insure the control over their wealth? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by WebsterMark on 05/31/17 at 08:14:42 No. I don't believe in "globalist" if by that you mean an orchestrated, controlled and monitored effort to control wealth by a few individuals. This is a product of global liberal-group think that took hold and grew a life of it's own. Climate Change is a larger (and more profitable) version of global overpopulation, the nuclear China Syndrome paranoid, GMO, or you can insert any number of other overreactions here. Very wealthy, those hoping to be wealthy and activist scientist needing grants (oh, and a former losing VP) , latched onto the Cause, not really caring about the facts one way or the other. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/17 at 08:55:14 ken lay and al gore Too bad so few remember the events of their own lives. Who remembers the reports of Weather station in remote location replaced by rooftop unit? I do. This whole thing is a propaganda game. Watching the dumbmasses trudge dutifully to yet another BS game is so disheartening. Wake up people. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by Serowbot on 05/31/17 at 09:28:02 ...or,.. the entire world could be right, and stupid denier conspiracists wrong. ::) |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/17 at 09:39:22 Your Entire World Is nothing more than the easily led dumbmasses. Exactly WHAT have you supported that wasn't eventually proven to be a load of crap ? Civil rights, yeehaawww,, maybe one day you'll have the discernment to understand both sides of that.. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by MShipley on 05/31/17 at 10:01:11 https://www.prageru.com/courses/environmental-science/paris-climate-agreement-wont-change-climate |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/17 at 10:09:20 The Paris Climate Agreement will cost at least $1 trillion per year, and climate activists say it will save the planet. The truth? It won't do anything for the planet, but it will make everyone poorer--except politicians and environmentalists. Bjorn Lomborg explains. They don't Want to understand. That would require the admission that they bought ANOTHER lie. Like the Reasons that have been shown to be lies, but were used by the media, as an organ, (the mouth ) to sell us wars. How many times do you have to get suckered before you figure it out? Why is your FEAR about the Unproven, Unseen TRAIN WRECK that you people have been Telling me was just Soon to Happen, and My world would be destroyed by insane weather, flooding, where are the HORRORS I've been being Promised for TWENTY YEARS? But when I say Don't import refugees I'm some kinda gutless scaredycat... Good God go slap yourselves.. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 05/31/17 at 10:11:36 5F4046415C5B6A5A6A52404C07350 wrote:
He misspoke..... He meant the world he lives in ;D |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by Serowbot on 05/31/17 at 10:16:39 405F595E43447545754D5F53182A0 wrote:
The problem with conspiracy is,.. once you accept it,... every contradiction or proof otherwise is just part of the conspiracy... Facts become inconsequential... critical thinking goes out the window... |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/17 at 10:25:38 Nook, answer the question. I was against wars you supported. You want to believe I was just Anti Obama, but that's not why I was against wars. The LIES that I have Demonstrated, you bought. I didn't. Now, what government action have you supported that wasn't eventually shown to be bad for America? Or born in lies? Did you support Nafta? Of COURSE you did, because you BELIEVED that would Level the Playing Field.. PHHHT, schmucked again.. Who doesn't know what happens when fields are leveled? How many times do you have to be lied to before you Start being Critical? Now is when an honest person who has genuine curiosity lays down the shield and stops pretending that pointing and saying Conspiracy Theories somehow Changes the Documentable Fact that news outlets were universal in the stories selling us these wars. Deny CIA involvement in the media. Whether the media BELIEVED the stories or not, We KNOW they Got it wrong.. So, WHERE did THEIR information come From? Read that, do you know what that is? That's exactly what Critical Thinking looks like Now, I expect the shock of seeing what you profess doing being demonstrated by someone you believe yourself superior to has put you on the floor. When you can get back in the seat , read all that again. Can you answer Any of the points? Or will you be forced to cry Conspiracy again? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by WebsterMark on 05/31/17 at 12:02:11 entire world could be right, and stupid denier conspiracists wrong. I am not a conspiracist. I don't think I'm stupid either. I would say I know more about engineering, physics and general science than you do. You believe climate change is a coming disaster because you've been told to, not because you can see evidence of it yourself. I don't think it's the disaster it's made out to be because I see no evidence of it myself and I because I've been told for years by multiple agencies that the temperature was going to be 'X' by now and it's 'X-y' right now with no explanation why all the agencies over estimated. Man contributes to global warming. Period. No one really disputes that. The dispute is to what degree. It seems to me from what I've read it's a tiny fraction. An amount that if removed would make no measurable difference. We could spend trillions and accomplish practically nothing. That's what the Paris Agreement states. Stop spending money on it. Stop it. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 05/31/17 at 12:29:40 Critical thinking and reading/watching/listening to the news are polar opposites. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/17 at 12:32:11 556760717667704F637069020 wrote:
GitchyaSummaThat... |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by MShipley on 05/31/17 at 12:40:03 The problem with conspiracy is,.. once you accept it,... every contradiction or proof otherwise is just part of the conspiracy... Facts become inconsequential... critical thinking goes out the window... Do you mean like the Russian collusion garbage????? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/17 at 12:48:27 Time OUT! The Muppet has gone down two flights of stairs and his strings are tangled. Give him time to untangle them. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by Serowbot on 05/31/17 at 13:28:48 I know enough to know that I don't know as much as the scientists studying this... ... and I do have friends in the sciences, and they are all very sceptical by nature. If the science don't hold up, they will shoot it down. In fact,.. it's what they live for. Climate change is holding up... :-? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by sendjackaline on 05/31/17 at 13:45:43 covfefe |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by verslagen1 on 05/31/17 at 13:57:59 It's non binding BS anyway. Trump just doesn't have to support it with exec. action and veto any bills for it. Except for making it political... doesn't have to say anything. That being said, I thought the goal was 1 or 2° ? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 05/31/17 at 14:18:05 Bot has friends.....covfefe |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by sendjackaline on 05/31/17 at 14:26:07 Maybe the riding season will last longer into the winter. There's a plus! |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/17 at 14:33:00 5046514C54414C57230 wrote:
Declare Victory! Geeze.. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by sendjackaline on 05/31/17 at 14:43:30 That was sarcasm and helping me get to 10 posts. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by tcreeley on 05/31/17 at 16:23:35 Climate change is real. When I moved here to Maine- it was cooler in the summers. 60's, 70's, and sometimes in the 80's. No one had an AC, you just opened the window on the shady side, and at night, all of the windows- down to the 50's. I hate the hot days. I drive my wife nuts with the AC all day and into the night. I hate the bill too! We lose electricity during the summer- freak storms. I use the generator more in the summer than I so in the winter from snow related power outages. Paris accord- nice if it worked. Reminds me of the carbon credit market place they wanted to set up. -Just a scam to make some money. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/31/17 at 16:37:15 I'm so tired of pointing out the facts about the change that I just won't. No intellectually honest person would continue to pursue this line of crap. Show which predictions have been demonstrated as True. Do it. More and worse hurricanes, right? NO. SO STFU. right? No, Explain WHY you're Right, while you Got NOTHING to point to. And just what Did end the ice age? My car???? Yeah, we have impacted the environment.. But, you Don't Remember the A mini ice age is coming Bullshit right up to the day they started with the Ohhh Noo Mr. Bill, The Climate is warming! Crap.. Unsustainable Lifestyles are the enemy. You bunches GENIUSES are doing Everything You Possibly Can to allow for taxes and regulations that will keep YOU from running your own frikking air conditioner without going broke. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by T And T Garage on 06/01/17 at 12:57:15 YAY!!! We're in great company now - Syria and Nicaragua!! Gee, that's swell!!!!! smh |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by MShipley on 06/01/17 at 13:06:39 AHHHHHHH WERE ALL GONNA DIE.............. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by verslagen1 on 06/01/17 at 13:21:36 1, 2, 3, wadda we fightin' 4, don't give a dam, next stop is... |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by T And T Garage on 06/01/17 at 14:02:07 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3px2G8yPc_8[/media] |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by MnSpring on 06/01/17 at 14:53:52 30 + years ago, it was, ‘A ICE AGE IS COMING’ Now, it’s G.W. (Due to BIG, money to be made) Gee, wasn’t NYC, Parts of Calf, & Florida, to be UNDER Water today? Were the Ice Caps, all gonna Melt.? And the, ‘Carbon Foot print’, and the, ‘Carbon Tax’. Ask someone in Calf, how the Tax is going. And ask, the, ‘Wanna Be King”, about his ‘carbon footprint’. Oh, and ALL those DEAD Polar Bears. Their was (+/-) 12,000 in the late 1960s and ONLY, about 25,000 today. But, ‘Global Warming’, is ALL, Mans Fault. SO, buy these CFL Bulbs, it will save the Planet. (As gore said) But, Mercury, in the ground, water, lakes, ducks, fish, is ON THE RISE, (Used to be declining), is NO, problem, cause gore, said so. Because, people, just tossed the burnt out CFL’s in the Landfills. Cause, gore, said so. Understand, CFL = Compact Florescent Light. Now what is, ’that’, substance, in a, Florescent Light ????? The, ‘HOLE’, in the Ozone. How’s that coming ???????? Ya really think the less use of hair spray, or spray underarm deodorant, did it ?????????? (You think that, found some more, OCEAN Front Lots, in Iowa for ya.) And on and on it goes. Now, just for the, ‘underwear in a bunch’, crowd. I, don’t trow tires in the ditch, etc, etc, etc. And, don’t buy Mercury Light Bulbs, just because, gore, said I should. And SURE not, gonna say, spending Trillions, to ‘fix’, a fix, that does not fix things, is OK. Let France, ‘fix’, it ! |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/01/17 at 15:01:12 I'm not gonna give my ability to see less credibility than someone telling me crap that hasn't come true in the TWENTY YEARS they have been warning me of impending doom. I can SEE the tax game being played. You CAN'T? Which of the dire warnings has actually happened? Unless you can show me WHY, WTF are you doing? How many times have we been lied to? Really, seriously, does anyone believe we weren't lied to to get everyone on board with Nam, Iraq and Libya? Raise your hand and state your position. Lied to, not lied to . |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by WebsterMark on 06/02/17 at 11:45:04 I see no one, and not just on this forum, has offered a valid rebuttal to any of the points below. 6E5C5B4A4D5C4B74584B52390 wrote:
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 06/02/17 at 12:54:27 By golly Web, I think you stumbled into the truth of how it all works... You called it Ma Nature, that is key..... A natural cycle that was designed without mans input. But let's use man as an example. Each man is his own universe..... Just ask Twitter or Obama, they will testify that all matters revolve around them. So, we have established fact, in man. Now we will use that fact. The man consumes in order to tweet or in Obamas case, refute. Now what he consumes had to get from its origins, to their mouth. That has an effect on lots of other matter. Repeat, and rinse, many times a day, week, month, year, lifetime. This takes lots of energy and that has enflunce over even more matter. Remember, all this matter effects other matter, and so on, and so forth.... You can't take one matter, and pit it against another matter, out of context, especially if one matter, doesn't really matter. So, let's go back to man, the center of his universe. He had consumed much in order to do much, but he had leftover matter, that wasn't needed, but you don't know that going in, only after the fact, or let's say, going out.... So, we have excess matter going out, which seems to really smell and cause aroma pollution, not to mention the ability to cause matter that yet has been totally consumed, to self regurgitate it's own matter, but let's not fixate in that, we is talking matter that has run its course.... It hits the environment and becomes the matter upon which new life springs forth, a never ending cycle, one that feeds upon itself, to create more of itself.... Think about it, it pass the smell test..... Also, it explains why some people don't think their chit stinks! So, my final thought is. Why does all this chit, matter? Be happy :D |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by verslagen1 on 06/02/17 at 13:17:37 I don't have a rebuttal, but mostly agree. Quote:
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by MShipley on 06/02/17 at 13:28:30 I have been around a lot of years, I have heard of the coming ice age, the extinction of polar bears, the seas rising, no more NY city, no more North Pole, the ozone layer will collapse......NOT ONE OF THE PREDICTIONS CAME TRUE......NOT ONE. I have also travelled the world....the USA is not the issue..... and all this agreement does is funnel money from your pocket to the pocket of wealthy rulers around the world that will not use that money for anything to make the environment better. Instead of giving it to them may I suggest that we invest that money right here. One thing I have learned in life, the only person I can make better in this world is myself.......we should use that philosophy with American tax dollars. There is a lot of science out there right now that says co2 follows temperature not that temperature follows co2. The science shows that the oceans release more co2 when it is warmer and hold more when it is cooler. Therefore co2 does not cause warming rather warming causes co2. It has always interested me that in the short amount of time(say couple hundred years) that we have been monitoring temperature that someone or some group has decided that the average temp 50 years ago was the optimal temperature for all creation. They decided that a degree or 2 on any side of this average would be catastrophic, WHY? Why do we believe that a change in temperature by a degree or two is bad? What if life is seeking perfection now by increasing a degree or two and then in a 100 years it cycles and goes down a degree or two. We all ready know that the earths climate changes, why such hysteria? ONE reason, $$$$$$$ |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by Serowbot on 06/02/17 at 14:59:02 665453424554437C50435A310 wrote:
The points you refer to, are from a book by Dr. Roy Spencer and they have been debunked over and over by the established scientific community... If you wish to bother to read... https://thinkprogress.org/climate-scientists-debunk-latest-bunk-by-denier-roy-spencer-8519f36faf77 Quote:
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by MnSpring on 06/02/17 at 15:11:32 263522233C3137353E61500 wrote:
Will take #2 first: Couple of years ago drove a car, from Prescott AZ, to about 1+ Hour South of L.A. Calf. Took Interstate 10. In Calf, About Palm Springs and N. Palm Springs. And EVERYWHERE I Looked, saw, Huge, 100 + Feet Blades, Wind Towers. Several, THOUSANDS of them. For Miles and Miles and Miles. And It was a Windy Day. I Did not stop on the Freeway and count. However by just Observation, on this Windy Day. LESS THAN 1/4 Were Turning. Even saw, 20 (+/-), ‘Black ones’, (Fire) And at least 2 dozen, that had only TWO Blades, (Not normal 3) Wow, did ‘WE’ Ever SPEND, our Tax Dollars, so Completely, Foolishly !!!!! HOW many Veterans could that money have helped? How Many, Citizens, living under bridges, could that money have helped? How many, Citizens, The TRUE Needy, (NOT the Liars, Cheaters, Steelers, ILLEGALS, and the, Gimme/Gimmes’ers), could of that money helped ? But no, it paid for a person/s, to fly First Class Wherever, because they paid the, ‘Left Hand Dollar’, to a ‘government’, person. Now we have, (Number 1 ) The, ‘Solar Farms’. (Photovoltaic Cells) 10 Miles away, a, ‘New’, ‘Solar Farm’, is arising. Started 2 Years ago, (The ‘Wanna Be King” mandate). About 1/2 done, it went BROKE !!!!!!!!!! Then the, (Wanna Be King), granted More Money, to Another Company, they did about 1/4 More, And guess what, They went, BROKE, AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!! Now a, THIRD, Company, Got MORE, Money, from the, (Wanna Be King), Just before he, (er, H.R.C. his Puppet Master), Lost. They are now working to complete. Wonder when they will go BROKE !!!!!!!!!!! Observed Reality, How many days does the Sun Shine in Minn? How Many days does it Shine, in TX/NM/AZ/CA ??????????? Now, Look at the ‘Efficiency’ of P.V.C’s., (Photovoltaic Cells) In 5 Years, they will be OBSOLETE. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Yet it is a 20 Year Lease and 2 years, since they started) Cheese and Rice, Let’s ALL Spend, TRILLIONS, So, Tunikudoiue can burn Rain Forests. (And the USA Pays) Let’s ALL Spend, TRILLIONS, So other Countries, can CONTINUE, to spew Emissions, the USA has Curbed, since the ‘Industrial Revolution’ in the early-mid, 1800’s. (which was curbed, WITHOUT A ‘Wanna Be KING’, sticking his know nothing nose in it) (And the USA Pays) Let’s ALL Spend, TRILLIONS, So other Countries, can make HUDGE Money, on the back of, the USA, Tax Paying Citizens. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (And the USA PAYS) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The, "Fairy Dust Sprinkling, Kume-By-You, Snowflakes”, Do NOT, have a CLUE, about the, “Rest Of The Story” A.S.B. Paul Harvey. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by Serowbot on 06/02/17 at 15:15:42 :-?... Quote:
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by MnSpring on 06/02/17 at 15:20:40 5A4C5B465E4B465D290 wrote:
Would that be like, your post, on a, 'Topic", where YOU said: 'The Drug Was Identified", and YOU, did NOT Say, WHERE THAT INFORMATION CAME FROM????? (After SEVERAL, Repeated Requests to do so?) |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 06/02/17 at 16:03:59 15360B282A31363F580 wrote:
Would that be like, your post, on a, 'Topic", where YOU said: 'The Drug Was Identified", and YOU, did NOT Say, WHERE THAT INFORMATION CAME FROM????? (After SEVERAL, Repeated Requests to do so?)[/quote] He has proof..... He sweats more, than before. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/02/17 at 18:01:21 687E69746C79746F1B0 wrote:
So, no reason to start slinging polyester out yer ears,, |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 06/02/17 at 18:49:53 26393F3825221323132B39357E4C0 wrote:
So, no reason to start slinging polyester out yer ears,, [/quote] Sorry Jog, that changes nothing....... The question is, what if the GW stuff is true, can we afford to not change our ways, just in case? Now, flip that around a bit...,, What if the Bible is true, can you take the chance of going to hell? Either one, if true, and nothing is done about it, it's gonna be a real hot beech ;D |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/02/17 at 19:03:14 I'm not gonna get on board with TAXING US UNTIL UNSUSTAINABLE CEASES. The GW Warmlarmists don't know that what THEY are supporting are taxes and regulations that will destroy our lifestyle. Air conditioning won't be so affordable. Really people, exactly WHAT is going to Be DONE to change things? ANSWER THAT or STFU about the bullshit. All that is going to happen is Be Taxed for using power. THAT'S what they will use to cut carbon, FFS, brainwashed into believing what we EXHALE is gonna destroy the world, it's been the same line oshit for TWENTY years, and nottafukkingthing the chikkin little crowd has been screaming about has happened! But, hey, stay skeert! You have nothing to show that supports your religion. Why do so many atheists worship government? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 06/02/17 at 20:16:15 GW is nothing more than a belief, like religion. Many who believe GW think the Bible is akin to fairytale. Yet look how much historical fact can be attributed to much of the prophecy..... Yet, it still remains a belief, nothing more than faith based... For once it becomes actual fact, which I believe, it will, those who denied it, for whatever reason, will reap their own chosen reward, period. Game over! This is exactly the same foundation GW is based upon.... If we don't choose to believe, and act accordingly, we all will go to hell, so to speak. Now my lifestyle is enflunced by my belief in biblical truth/teachings. I have experienced great awareness and the ability to overcome much, because of my faith. Yes, I still sin, but I repent and try to overcome it. I can not experience peace and serenity, if I do not heed, period, no exceptions..... Now take Al Gore for example.... He is like a preacher who lies, steals, and cheats Monday through Saturday, but finds religion in Sunday. You know why? Because he doesn't believe what he preaches. Why does Al pollute and have such a extravagant green footprint? He himself is causing way more pollution than I am, yet I find the claim as presented, suspect..... It's like I am a sinner who does not believe in god, but have a more spiritual life than the preacher himself..... How can that be? Simple, somebody is misrepresenting themselves. It's up to everyone to decide themselves, who is lying to them. As a believer, is it my duty to make others believe, to prove my belief? No.... That would never prove sustainable. The founding fathers knew sanctioning any belief, as a mandate, would cause the union to fail. Lead by example, not force, is the only real test of freedom..... Anything else is a lie, as in misleading. You can't make me not believe, by force, or by example..... You do not have the capacity.... But the GW folk can only use force, and then it will be ultilized by the governing to their own benifit, as examples by the likes of Al Gore, etc. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by WebsterMark on 06/03/17 at 04:15:00 Galileo faced the same; crowds of religious leaders who banded together and "debunked" his work. Your article laughs at the publication but remember the Climategate emails showed the climate scientist ban together and punish magazines that go against the agreed to narrative. It's what Galileo faced with the Church. There was no where he could turn that wasn't already under control. My point stands, you or no one else argued against his points, particularly 3,4 and 5. Why should we enter in an agreement that lets China and India alone for 10 years for example? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by WebsterMark on 06/03/17 at 04:22:54 Spencer is on the nine-member board of the antiregulation, Scaife- and Bradley-funded Marshall Institute, though he appears not to disclose this affiliation on his website oh, and the "he's corrupt" angle should stop. Any idea how wealthy climate change has made people? Again, Climategate emails revealed just how much climate scientists talk about funding and who to go to in order to get cash. Climate change research is a multi billion dollar industry. You think these research scientist are pure as the driven show? Read the climategate emails. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by WebsterMark on 06/03/17 at 05:05:48 https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/paris-accord-impact.jpg http://https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/paris-accord-impact.jpg |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/17 at 06:56:08 Why, don't you know? The information in the Climate Gate emails must be ignored, because it was hacked and then produced. We were never Supposed to know about the lies, manipulation, etc... so you are obligated to ignore the truth. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by Serowbot on 06/03/17 at 07:44:56 The earth is actually flat... :-? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJfS5bvb6Yk [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJfS5bvb6Yk[/media] Good to know... :-? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/17 at 08:25:29 Aaand the Purpose of that post? I guess pointing out lies is just too wacky.. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by Serowbot on 06/03/17 at 08:28:14 Wacky is as wacky does... |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/17 at 08:33:45 Aww, come on, Say something or don't. Take a stand, back it up. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 06/03/17 at 08:39:39 697F68756D78756E1A0 wrote:
And....,,don't you just hate it when Christians tell you Bot you is a sinner and will roast in hell, because you DON'T BLIEVE.... No, of course not. Yet, your actions and words tell another story. Are you just plain clueless, or your indoctrination complete......??? I don't know, and perhaps you really don't either. Will you fight this summer, or just play tin soldier on the computer? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by Serowbot on 06/03/17 at 09:17:43 Thank you for the nonsensical rant... :-? |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/17 at 09:21:03 He was flattering you. Imitation is ,, Ohhh, you know the saying... |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 06/03/17 at 10:23:51 7C6A7D60786D607B0F0 wrote:
You taught me well, Master :-* |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/17 at 11:04:21 I don't understand why the Believers don't just make out a time line of events. Start with the beginning of Seeing the Threat move on to Identifying the Problems that we Will Have Show us the predictions Show us which have been shown to be correct. Or, if you can't do that,, Start asking yourself how long you are willing to wait for the events that We Were Supposed to See Already before you Start to question the Preacher who told you what was coming. If ever you were handed all the pieces of the puzzle that would allow you to see the set-up, this is it. The naked attempt to create hysteria that would be the foundation for taxes and regulations that would be the beginning of the end of our standard of living. The 1% won't be bothered, but the less you have, the more disruptive this will be. Must I exclude the homeless, Or are you smart and honest enough to know that exceptions exist? You don't understand that by supporting the GW crap you're supporting taxes and regulations that WILL AFFECT YOUR LIFE NEGATIVELY. You'll Pay for the beaurocracy that will be watching Your carbon footprint. Problem, Reaction, Solution And you people are perpetual dupes. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by MnSpring on 06/03/17 at 11:30:19 The question is, what if the GW stuff is true, can we afford to not change our ways, just in case? Of Course, ‘our’, ways are changing. You have never see photographs, and old ‘news reels’, showing Smoke Stacks, Billowing out HUGE, Black columns of smoke. Everywhere. ????? And the caption saying: “…showing our superior manufacturing and production…” Gee, is everyone doing the same thing, as we did in the early 1800’s ???????? NO We ALL, are doing little things. Yet the al gores of the WORLD, Found a way to, ‘profit greatly’, on your, ‘fear’, of the Ice Caps Melting, et, etc, etc, And now, the al gore wanna bees, have seen how successful that is, and they also, want their piece of the pie. This Spaceship we are on, CHANGES, in Temperature, Subject, to it’s nature. It is RECORDED, in BILLIONS, of years of evidence, in the rocks/land/etc. It is affected by, Volcanoes, and Asteroids hitting the surface, it is affected by the ‘wobble’ of this Spaceship in it’s orbit. It is NOT, affected by man or his/her cars !!!!!!!!! The, ’Scientists’, who say it is, have LEARNED, that when they say, what someone wants, they will get MORE Money, to put in their Pocket. And when they say, what they have LEARNED, from the evidence all around them. And it is, NOT, (What someone, TOLD them so say), They don’t get any MONEY !!!!!!! It is that simple. The ‘Pied Piper’, (‘er, al gore types), followers. Are the, ‘Flat Earth’, believers. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/17 at 15:30:32 in·cor·ri·gi·ble [in[ch712]kôr[ch601]j[ch601]b([ch601])l] ADJECTIVE (of a person or their tendencies) not able to be corrected, improved, or reformed: |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/03/17 at 22:37:15 756A6C6B7671407040786A662D1F0 wrote:
Well, explain WHY I should believe it,, Because it's SCIENCE? Being lied to by scientists isn't science. Twenty years ago they told us about the coming crazy weather and how bad the hurricanes were gonna be And It was ALL BULLSHIT, but You still believe it. You people were probably thirty before you figured out Santa Claus was a fictional character. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 06/04/17 at 07:57:40 JOG.... Didn't you read all the stories about how all the CEO's in the USA are not siding with Trump on this action? Maybe they are too busy watching the stock market react ;D |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/17 at 08:11:09 Corporate opposition to policy is an indicator that the direction is better for the People. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by tcreeley on 06/04/17 at 08:29:53 Jump in stock market following announcement. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by raydawg on 06/04/17 at 08:41:04 6F78697E7E777E621B0 wrote:
Yes, my portfolio told me, thanks ;D |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/17 at 14:08:42 Obnoxious Buzzer sound. WRONG The correct answer IS Paris Disagreement... And how much did you wager? Ohhh, well, that's too bad... Sorry.. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by WebsterMark on 06/05/17 at 05:00:07 I'd love to take credit for this but I can't: If we don't stop these terrorist attacks, candle burning vigils are going to climb to the second leading cause of climate change. |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by T And T Garage on 06/05/17 at 10:32:41 This: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5scez5dqtAc[/media] |
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Title: Re: Paris Agreement Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/17 at 13:41:23 And exactly what POLICY CHANGES will we be hoping for that Will change the, not increasing,, increasing temperatures? Just because someone CALLS something a Climate agreement does not Mean that there are parts of it that directly impact behaviors. So, tell me What you are wanting that mean old trump screwed you out of. |
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