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Message started by tergi on 05/24/17 at 06:55:52

Title: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 05/24/17 at 06:55:52

Hi, this is my Savage proyect, i start in january.
First of all i buy a rear fork from a Monster s4r
http://i64.tinypic.com/2v0c1s5.jpg
So i remove the Savage fork
http://i65.tinypic.com/9r7v36.jpg
end i made some spacer and a new wheel pin
http://i67.tinypic.com/29dwr6h.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ptecko.jpg

first fit test
http://i63.tinypic.com/9k2fxg.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/2v3keih.jpg
and the rear oil/gas shock absorber from a Hypermotard
but in this photo there is the monster shock
http://i65.tinypic.com/35lssq8.jpg
So i havent use the Ducati lever system and the spring is to soft, i have made a 3cm spacer in teflon to compress the spring.
http://i66.tinypic.com/2uh5yr4.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/14vlqoi.jpg

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by rich8363 on 05/24/17 at 07:00:41

Very Cool ;D

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by stewmills on 05/24/17 at 07:04:28

This is insane (in a WOW kind of way). It amazes me what some people are capable of both envisioning and fabricating.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 05/24/17 at 07:08:49

Holy Crap! That is some serious fabrication and modification. I can't wait to watch this build unfold.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 05/24/17 at 07:18:49

So i made the frame fot the seat
http://i68.tinypic.com/28bfuch.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/a3ni36.jpg
end i fit the front fork from a Ducati Hypermotard
http://i64.tinypic.com/4u72n8.jpg
And i made the battery box
http://i66.tinypic.com/2cxyxzd.jpg
After the paint i start to reasseble the bike
http://i65.tinypic.com/2ch45g3.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/2h5v4te.jpg
One of the greatest problem was the handlebars...the ducati was 22mm but is idroformed to 27mm in the middle and the savage is 25mm, so i use a 22 one with a central riser spacer to 27 and a little spacer for the gas trottle to 25mm.
http://i66.tinypic.com/29giwkn.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/29yobqs.jpg

it's alive
http://i68.tinypic.com/27wrcx3.jpg

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 05/24/17 at 07:44:48

Thanks so much !!!!! sorry for my english....
this is the convertion from cable to hydraulic for the rear brake system:
this is the original one
http://i67.tinypic.com/2mcsspk.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2ckql4.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/j7rqmw.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/oq9cuf.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/svkn7n.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/k2xt2e.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/eafwhc.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/qp2am0.jpg

that's all for the moment...

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by ohiomoto on 05/24/17 at 11:54:14

Cool!

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by Dave on 05/24/17 at 12:11:16

Wow...it is pretty amazing what you have been able to get done between 6:55 and 7:44 today!

I expect you will be riding by this time tomorrow! :)

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/24/17 at 12:43:20

Wish I'd said that.

Very nice work.. and as Dave points out, Dude, you're Fast!

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 05/25/17 at 05:00:00

69525F4859554E48535B56493A0 wrote:

Wow...it is pretty amazing what you have been able to get done between 6:55 and 7:44 today!

I expect you will be riding by this time tomorrow! :)

yes it's because the time running different in the USA...so if you take one minute in Usa isn't like a minute in Italy... Usa is about 10.000.000 km2, Italy is 300.000 km2 and 1 minute in Italy is to little and compressed....
Why the best Watchs are made in Switzerland? because is a small place and the time is hyper compressed.

So this morning I've start to fit the Kawasaki pulleys and belt, first of all i have made an alluminium spacer:
http://i64.tinypic.com/mt5aar.jpg
SO i start to mill the kawasaki pulley but my lathe is to small and i can't block it, So i start the front turn indicator plate:
http://i67.tinypic.com/5umuz8.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/2e4c8dl.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/spyemu.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/175k53.jpg

general view:
http://i67.tinypic.com/2vv2hlc.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/1z3v6dx.jpg

that's all. :)

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 05/25/17 at 05:15:50

That is not all Mister!

We want detail photos. What's it like to ride. How did it change your your life?

We want details man.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by rich8363 on 05/25/17 at 06:12:43

Wow !!!!

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by xaman on 05/25/17 at 07:17:42

Woah! Awesome build.

I bet those brakes work real good ;D

Love it. Give as many details as you can.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 05/29/17 at 08:42:08

Spec:
fork Ducati Hypermotard with 2x 4 pot brembo radial caliper
forged aluminium Marchesini wheels
rear arm Ducati monster s4r
rear shock absorber Sachs oil/gas Ducati Hypermotard
reard Brembo single pot caliper from Ducati Monster s4r
front periferic Brembo master cylinder
rear Brembo master cylinder
belt trasmission from Kawasaki gpz
carbon fibre front fender Ducati Performance
rear fender homemade
homemade exhaust

some exhaust photo:

http://i64.tinypic.com/spw6l4.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/33m98g6.jpg

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by Dave on 05/29/17 at 15:01:31

Looks like I am not the only one having trouble with TinyPic.

I can't get photos to load on their site either...the trouble started at the end of last week.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/29/17 at 15:35:11

Hypermotard

I went to school with that guy..

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 06/04/17 at 00:46:03

7C474A5D4C405B5D464E435C2F0 wrote:

Looks like I am not the only one having trouble with TinyPic.

I can't get photos to load on their site either...the trouble started at the end of last week.

I have seen, so this is the link to my blog, there are some exhaust photo
http://www.stuffandthings.it/epages/86069.sf/it_IT/?ObjectPath=/Shops/86069/Categories/Blog/Suzuki_Savage_Custom_sportivo_parte_3
Tomorrow i buy a 1996 bmw r1100rt for my next project... i have found it in a web site for only 500 euro

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/04/17 at 06:38:07

Great! No reason to run off. I wish you'd start a thread and post your progress. You do some mighty fine work.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 06/05/17 at 06:24:35

thanks Justin!
first of all sorry for my english:
I have a problem with the bmw...some people are so mad...
I have found the motorcycle on a online private sale, this is the bike.
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/tergicompositi/17624452590231_zpsioiijcz9.jpg
so there isn't the telephone number , only the email, i have send at this guy an email...after some day i receved the answer and this guy said that is his father's motorcycle and he give me his home telephone number....
Saturday morning i call this number and an old man tell my that he was sick and he cant leave his home to make the document to sell me the bike....and i have to phone at his mechanic...i only made a question: did the bike run? so at this point the old man turn into a devil...and he said "if you want, you can go to my mechanic and try to start it!!! i'm so sikkk!!!!!! you dont have to call me again!!!!i'm so sick!!!"
so i don't want to see the bike, i want to buy the bike is not just near home is about 200 km.. id like to say if the bike run or not.
so he turn off the phone...
i call his mechanic and he said that the bike was ok, it's all ok, if i want he can recharge the battery for me, he was really kind.
So i recall the old man and he re said me that he was sik and he can't leave his home to make the document for the propriety of the bike
andi haven't to call again because he was sik....
.....
i don't know.....
So this morning i have work on the savage:
wrap the exhaust:
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/tergicompositi/P_20170531_122511_zpsokuhe8g9.jpg
i have made the spacer for the front pulley:

i have drill and fillet? threaded? i don't know what is the correct word
drilled the oem front pulley, six hole for 8x1,25

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/tergicompositi/P_20170605_122436_zpsnxfuuexh.jpg

made the spacer in alluminium

http://i63.tinypic.com/333wydt.jpg

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/tergicompositi/P_20170605_122521_zpsqrubie38.jpg

drilled and milled the Kawasaki pulley

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/tergicompositi/P_20170605_122548_zps7ghpzwel.jpg

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/tergicompositi/P_20170605_122600_zpsqm4zwbog.jpg

Last photo: sunset at Folgaria

http://i65.tinypic.com/zmmwl2.jpg

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by Hamman on 06/05/17 at 07:22:33

Very cool build my friend! Now we have 2 with inverted forks ;) Loving the Ducati rear, very neat and professional looking! Hope to see more details on your BMW build!

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 06/05/17 at 08:02:45

thanks so much!
I have seen your website, i love your motorcycle.
this is my last bmw, an r850r scrambler:

http://i63.tinypic.com/2mo41e0.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/1zbf3hz.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/2eyas1v.jpg

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/05/17 at 09:20:01

You ever play with a Guzzi? I Like the sound of those engines.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 06/06/17 at 04:29:41

yes but i hate it because it was my job, from 2001 to 2005 i have work in a Moto Guzzi dealer , in that years a lot of engine are converted from meccanic distribution to hydraulic distribution.....that was a drama....
the problem was the high temperature, the oil became liquid and the valves kiss the pistons.....All the people was hungry (so if you buy a 20000 euro California and after 2 day you have find the valves in the oil pan....)
One client buy a V11 Centauro full carbon fibre a lot of racing component to use like a racing bike, first track day the engine exploded.
So if you speak about old guzzi with carburator was great bike, i love the sound of the air when you open the gas...but if are 2000-2005 iniector and hydraulic distribution...i want to dai...

So my wife joke me and remember me that day every time a make fuel....
I have to deliver a brand new California with a touring pack (a lot of money bike...)
so i drive a Ducato like this
http://https://www.xenovision.it/images//products/834-Kit_Xenon_Fiat_Ducato_Fino_1.png
after a few kilometers i fill the bike moving but i cant see it, so i stop to the gas station, until the guy make the fuel i open the rear door, i get in and the read door close back me!
full dark i can't see nothing so i start to touch the door but i don't know if there was the handle and the fuel pump make noise into the metal box Ducato.... a lot of panic i start to call help but the fuel noise was to high...after some minut the fuel guy open the door, he was die laughing...and other peoples laugh.....i fill like a nuts....but i was happy to exit from the Ducato....

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/06/17 at 06:53:10

I knew about the hydraulic lifters and problems, but I thought it just ruined the cam. I didn't know the lifters got too tall and shoved the valves into the piston..
Sounds like a mess.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 06/07/17 at 06:42:42

yes guzzi use this valve to reduced the engine noise but sometimes the hydraulic sistem dosn't work, or work in late the cam times was not the same of the valve , sometimes the aspiration valve dosent close in time and the fuel explosion damage it.
i have found pices of valve fuse in the piston .
i don't know in english that is the word but it's not for the interference like some honda engine, is for the delay time of the valve.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/17 at 07:20:17

Your English is Far superior to my Italian. I don't even know how to cuss in Italian..
Pieces of anything stuck in a piston is always bad news.
Strange that such a problem got past Quality Control and made it into production. That had to be a Costly mistake.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 06/14/17 at 06:38:46

just a little progress
I made the rear spacer for fit the kawasaki pulley to the Ducati wheel:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2m796h3.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2vvrjvl.jpg

i think if you want made good stuff you have to work in a clean place:
so this is my super clean, perfect, work place ;D

http://i67.tinypic.com/2eoxgs5.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/316w31e.jpg

and i drill it for fit the pulley and the (i don't know what is the english word for the secure little screw)

http://i63.tinypic.com/1ypw61.jpg

that's all
i was invited at an American car and bike show near Venice and of course i show my......Honda.... :(
http://i65.tinypic.com/ng2hc8.jpg

California dreaming pics
http://i63.tinypic.com/33l0186.jpg

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/14/17 at 08:30:50

My grampa had a pickup truck like that.
Is the starter on the floor by the gas pedal?

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 06/14/17 at 08:40:05

i don't know, it was the best in show at this american car/bike show.....
but i don't see inside the truck...but i have seen a fisher karma...never seen before....it was a so large car.... it was near a corvette and the corvette looks like a city car
i take that picture just for the USA style....pickup...palms in the background....sunshine... for me this is the "USA stereotype"...
and that was a ax and knife luncher...so it was so funny i like it all day i lunched ax at the target...it's an american tadition? why at american car/bike show there was a ax luncher? is correct lunch? what is the name of the guy that lunch knife?

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/14/17 at 09:07:13

Are you saying they had a machine that launched the ax at the target?
There are people who compete with axes and ratchets
Throwing them at wooden targets. It's not a game many people engage in.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 06/14/17 at 09:33:51

like this:
this is my wife behind a "professional knife/ax luncher man............"
http://i65.tinypic.com/143p6iq.jpg
No there not a competition there was for fun ,so it was very funny i like it!!! all the day my wive say "where are you going stay here at our stand!!!" but i stay all day with that guy....so he can take the target at 10 mt with the ax
but i never seen this kind of "sport" so the question is:
is this american classic "sport" or entertainment at car/bike meeting?
or is this a stereotype of the american culture?

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/14/17 at 09:47:14

Early Americans had to clear land and build houses and fences and barns for animals and store their feed. They used axes and hatchets. The short Axe is a hatchet.
I don't Know of another country where they have lumberjack competition. Finding black powder and flintlock guns around the people who like throwing axes and hatchets is no surprise either.

https://www.baileysonline.com/Forestry-Woodcutting/Axes-Mauls/Throwing-Competition-Axes/

Settlers used to burn their houses down when they moved, so they could get the nails back. Nails were hand made, expensive and required metal to make them. The wild frontier didn't have a hardware store on every corner.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by verslagen1 on 06/14/17 at 10:01:41

I believe the term is knife or axe throwing

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by tergi on 07/12/17 at 05:37:23

Hi friends!!!! ;D
today was the first day for the savage!!!
some cel photo:
http://i64.tinypic.com/2ynow0w.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/23tksxk.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/w82mtd.jpg

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by Ruttly on 07/12/17 at 06:51:48

That's a one off machine !

BAD A$$

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by xaman on 07/12/17 at 06:53:18

Incredible work. That front end is especially nice [ch128077]

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 07/12/17 at 08:36:50

Probably the nicest Savage on the planet. Be sure to send some photos to Suzuki to inspire them.

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by ohiomoto on 07/12/17 at 10:30:39

Outstanding!

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by IslandRoad on 07/13/17 at 02:33:09

I don't know whether I should mod my bike ... or just give it away to someone talented! :o

Title: Re: Tergi's build threads
Post by ohiomoto on 08/24/17 at 08:21:06

More pictures please.