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Message started by raydawg on 05/17/17 at 10:23:50

Title: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by raydawg on 05/17/17 at 10:23:50

Please read this article.
Please discuss it.

Note the study where it reports Blacks and Hispanic make up 20 percent of the population but only hold 5 percent of the jobs in liberal strongholds.....
That will be a deciding factor in future elections, jobs....
It has always been the pocketbook that wins.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/05/17/americas_heartland_is_critical_to_our_future_133904.html

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/17/17 at 18:10:33

Are you saying that the lefties won't hire who they Say bubs won't hire?

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by oldNslow on 05/17/17 at 19:13:20


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Note the study where it reports Blacks and Hispanic make up 20 percent of the population but only hold 5 percent of the jobs in liberal strongholds....


Well, If they can't get jobs, for whatever reason, those folks still need to eat, have a place to live, schools for their kids, TeeVees, cars,and of course they have a "right" to  the best health care money can buy,even if they can't afford it ( on account of not having jobs, which is probably not their fault of course). So we get the ever proliferating government "programs" to help them out. In the aforementioned liberal strongholds mostly.

Which might help to explain the virulent liberal opposition to any sort of voter ID laws aimed at making sure that only folks actually entitled to vote, vote, and that they only vote once per election. After all, what else are all those unemployables good for as far as the liberal politicians (who run the "liberal strongholds) are concerned ? Except to vote for the hand that feeds them.

Consider for a moment the sh*tstorm that could be unleashed if they ever wise up to how they are being used. Or if for some reason someone turns off the tap, and the goodies disappear.



Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/17/17 at 19:23:48

Good post.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by raydawg on 05/17/17 at 19:24:23

Did you guys read it?
The movement is away from these liberal cities to places where they can afford to live, work.
The study shows it is happening, and that is part of the scare tactic about these places are only white rednecks who will not accept minorities...

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by MnSpring on 05/17/17 at 19:31:02

Do the, "Paul Harvey”

Just like one, ’site/news source’, says:
     “Blacks make more money than Hispanics”

Just like one, ’site/news source’, says:
     “Hispanic household make more money than Blacks”.

YEP, they are, (Both),  Correct !!!!!!!

Can you see the difference ????
Read it again.
Now add,  ‘Individual’, to the first, then add,  ‘Family’, to the second.

Look at the demographics, and you will see, Hispanic,  ‘Families’, are, (ON  Average), larger than Black Families.

It is the very same as:
   ‘We Need the un-documented Aliens, to work in the field, because no one else will”
      (Which the, stand in the street criers say)

“The Rest of the Story”
     We HAVE, the  Citizen workers to DO that work,
BUT, many are to  LAZY, to do it,  BECAUSE, they ALL get,  the  GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, for  FREE, and  make  MORE   Money, sitting on the porch  drinking, ‘Mint Juleps’, than working.

Because they have to pay more tax on those wages, then it is worth to just sit on the porch and say, “ GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs”
Where the,  un-documented, do NOT  pay Taxes.
So the more,  un-documented workers, and the more, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, The  Taxes will rise, and the, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, still Sit on the Porch, while, the,  un-documented workers, work, and don’t pay taxes,  so the, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, can sit on the porch, and make more money, because the, un-documented, who do NOT,  pay Taxes. (Etc. Etc. Etc.)

Now,   (Look at a  Election Map),  
How do you think the, un-documented, who NOT  pay Taxes. (and Voted  ILLEGALLY),
And the, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs,  gonna vote ?????

And NOW, some want to, ‘adopt’, a  Bunch of Snakes, Putting them in your house, NOT KNOWING, which ones are harmful.
Some, want to tax the BeJuses, out of Companies, that put people to work.
       (SO THEY CAN PAY TAXES)
So then, WHO, pays for the, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, GIMMIE’ers, and the, un-documented aliens, (who DO NOT PAY TAXES), and the upkeep, of the, ‘adopted’ Snakes?

OK  OK,  For the,  “Underwear in a  Bunch people”
Of  COURSE, their is a  need to help, people that,  need,  HELP !


NOT FOR THE, GIMMIEs, GIMMIEs, GIMMIE’ers,  who, LIE, CHEET, STEAL, from a  system, for the last 8 + years.   Simply because they have ‘Learned’ how to,  LIE CHEET, and STEAL, because the  8+ year  System, has had,  NO  VETTING,  and  ALLOWED them to do that!
     (Gee, because, a certain party, Wanted, the, vote ?)

Could this be the,  ‘Elephant’, in the room,
that the, ultra-Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Marxists, do NOT, want to talk about ?

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by oldNslow on 05/17/17 at 19:58:03

I did read it. And I think it's probably accurate as far as it goes. But if we are talking election battelfields the population will still be concentrated on the liberal coasts for along time. Economic opportunity may improve in flyover country as the article suggests, but elections are a numbers game.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by raydawg on 05/18/17 at 08:07:45


0A3435392B3736580 wrote:
I did read it. And I think it's probably accurate as far as it goes. But if we are talking election battelfields the population will still be concentrated on the liberal coasts for along time. Economic opportunity may improve in flyover country as the article suggests, but elections are a numbers game.


Yes, but also propaganda.....
If minorities thrive in the rust belt, they left will loose much of their fodder.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/17 at 11:34:40

Is stating documentable fact propaganda?

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by raydawg on 05/18/17 at 11:49:17


637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 wrote:
Is stating documentable fact propaganda?


Can you pose your question in a multiple choice format?  ;D

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/17 at 12:05:57



Yes, but also propaganda.....
If minorities thrive in the rust belt, they left will loose much of their fodder.

Does that help you ANY?

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by WebsterMark on 05/18/17 at 12:29:43


47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
If minorities thrive in the rust belt, they left will loose much of their fodder.


Absolutely. positivity correct Jog. In fact, it might be the only way to break the cycle of poverty and crime  in the black community.

So watch for Democrats and black "leaders" to start preaching how moving away from inner cities is a being a sellout. How this is running away, letting whitey win....  Black lives don't matter in the country.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by Trippah on 05/18/17 at 12:35:25

Lets count the number of large businesses owned by "lefties."  Have you got that one finger raised, good.  It has long been the policy of the US Government to keep blacks in ghettos in the inner cities; thus the welfare handouts help keep them fed, but not healthy or mobile.  These cities are also the center of power for the whacko Democrats who of late have controlled the party.  So, the wealthy are happy cause the only blacks and Hispanics that are going up country are in the back of pickups filled with economic slaves culled from worker pool corners.
The Democrats like it cause their base is in pools of despair, easily preached to but not really made economically mobile.

And you thought Washington doesn't work. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by raydawg on 05/18/17 at 12:37:30


625057464150477854475E350 wrote:
[quote author=47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 link=1495041830/0#10 date=1495134357]
If minorities thrive in the rust belt, they left will loose much of their fodder.


Absolutely. positivity correct Jog. In fact, it might be the only way to break the cycle of poverty and crime  in the black community.

So watch for Democrats and black "leaders" to start preaching how moving away from inner cities is a being a sellout. How this is running away, letting whitey win....  Black lives don't matter in the country.[/quote]

That's how I read it Web.
You must stay on the farm, or else..,.
Look how TT says I am not a registered democrat because I do NOT meet his criteria of what a democrat is suppose to be.
Well I say my momma, papa, and many others voted in the party, gave it the power to enact and foster middle class growth and opportunities, HIS party seems to only desire dependency upon the leaders, I say he doesn't know the real democrats that work hard and rely on themselves for their own self worth....

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by oldNslow on 05/18/17 at 12:41:10


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So watch for Democrats and black "leaders" to start preaching how moving away from inner cities is a being a sellout. How this is running away, letting whitey win...


I don't think we are going to see a mass exodus out of the ghettos. The first step in getting a job is deciding you actually WANT one.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by raydawg on 05/18/17 at 14:04:15


5A6465697B6766080 wrote:

Quote:
So watch for Democrats and black "leaders" to start preaching how moving away from inner cities is a being a sellout. How this is running away, letting whitey win...


I don't think we are going to see a mass exodus out of the ghettos. The first step in getting a job is deciding you actually WANT one.


I think you are wrong about that.
Most folk have the capacity AND willingness to better themselves when set free.
The stigma and pimping will fight to its death, of that I'm certain, but human nature is stronger once it sniffs the truth.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by verslagen1 on 05/18/17 at 14:52:37


22312934312737500 wrote:
[quote author=5A6465697B6766080 link=1495041830/0#14 date=1495136470]
Quote:
So watch for Democrats and black "leaders" to start preaching how moving away from inner cities is a being a sellout. How this is running away, letting whitey win...


I don't think we are going to see a mass exodus out of the ghettos. The first step in getting a job is deciding you actually WANT one.


I think you are wrong about that.
Most folk have the capacity AND willingness to better themselves when set free.
The stigma and pimping will fight to its death, of that I'm certain, but human nature is stronger once it sniffs the truth.
[/quote]
It's not a case of wanting a job, it's a case of being able.
Most in the ghetto have been dealt a raw deal for generations that hope is lost, and a way of life is ingrained.
I saw a ps commercial with morgan freeman where he said success is available to all.  It is, but the desire has to outweigh the hopelessness by a factor of 10.  Throw in a dash of talent and luck and you're there.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/17 at 15:14:57

Opportunity isn't so available as in years past. The Future for too many is a Hope to be accepted by
The Right Gang
instead of an apprenticeship in a place of interest. The poor are made poorer intentionally, fed crap and watered down with toxins.
But, Agenda 21 is not real.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by oldNslow on 05/18/17 at 15:25:37

Sorry, I stand by what I said. The culture of hopelessness and helplessness, and the utter destruction of anything resembling a stable family structure,  or a viable community, in the blighted inner city progressive paradises  has gone on for too long, A huge percentage of those folks have simply given up. When the handouts exceed the rewards of the struggle, why would they want the struggle? Or even recognise the possibility?

Certainly there will be exceptions. But the success stories amount to a trickle. The ghettos are getting bigger, not smaller. And they will continue to do so. Platitudes about "opportunity" "pulling oneself up by ones bootstraps", "ability to better oneself when set free", etc, etc. are not going to change that. The number of those who escape the trap will always be dwarfed by the numbers of those that don't.

We can wish it was otherwise if we want. But it isn't.

.

Title: Re: Here lies the battleground.......
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/17 at 15:38:12

Hopelessness is certainly a core issue.
Without opportunity, hopelessness is all that's left. How can they move to where opportunity is with empty pockets?

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