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Message started by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 16:43:41

Title: What has changed?
Post by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 16:43:41

Absolutly nothing............

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/11/poll-james-comey-firing-approval-238279?lo=ap_f1

Guess they haven't asked Bot or TT yet  ;D

Ok, if we look at the numbers, the libs are just a tad under percentage wise than those who support Trump.
That still looks like the election outcome.
Now if you factor in the don't knows, and don't cares, the libs are not making headway on this claim.
Looks like it's only the base that supports Bot and TT house of all horrors doomsday scenario.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/17 at 20:14:31

Well, when 1/3 of the poll doesn't have an opinion, well, that kind of makes it a futile little poll, doesn't it?

Not at all like the election and not worth the time - sorry.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by raydawg on 05/12/17 at 03:58:34


312F20212C312A37450 wrote:
Well, when 1/3 of the poll doesn't have an opinion, well, that kind of makes it a futile little poll, doesn't it?

Not at all like the election and not worth the time - sorry.


That IS their opinion I believe.....
In other words, it doesn't get them all worked up, like saying its not worth their/my energy to even think about this charge/cause, for I don't believe it rises to such occasion or need.

That is how I read it......
You got the bias left, eye-rolling media and the leftwing base fired up....
That is what I mean by nothing appears to have changed.
And like the little boy who cried wolf, folks just turned him off.

Look, I have stated many times I too wish for another person to be president, but this rage and pre-mature ejaculating is only getting your hands sticking, while you miss depositing a viable load where it might truly blossom into a revealing charge that you won't have to spin and manipulate to get people on board....

I know you don't, won't see that, too bad, cause I really believe we can do better than Trump, but you guys keep taking the bait and swallowing it, EVERY TIME!    

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/12/17 at 08:48:52


7D6E766B6E78680F0 wrote:
[quote author=312F20212C312A37450 link=1494546221/0#1 date=1494558871]Well, when 1/3 of the poll doesn't have an opinion, well, that kind of makes it a futile little poll, doesn't it?

Not at all like the election and not worth the time - sorry.


That IS their opinion I believe.....
In other words, it doesn't get them all worked up, like saying its not worth their/my energy to even think about this charge/cause, for I don't believe it rises to such occasion or need.

That is how I read it......
You got the bias left, eye-rolling media and the leftwing base fired up....
That is what I mean by nothing appears to have changed.
And like the little boy who cried wolf, folks just turned him off.

Look, I have stated many times I too wish for another person to be president, but this rage and pre-mature ejaculating is only getting your hands sticking, while you miss depositing a viable load where it might truly blossom into a revealing charge that you won't have to spin and manipulate to get people on board....

I know you don't, won't see that, too bad, cause I really believe we can do better than Trump, but you guys keep taking the bait and swallowing it, EVERY TIME!    
[/quote]

Hmmm.. to keep with the metaphor - you prematurely ejaculated there ray....

You should know that the MAJORITY of voters on the democratic side held their nose and voted for hillary.  Bernie had huge grassroots support and the DNC knocked him out with hillary's MASSIVE spend.  We're not stupid ray - anyone can see that we can do better than tweety and hillary.

Watching this train wreck is only enforcing the fact that the establishment way of doing things is dying - nearly dead.  So yeah, I'm guilty of cheering at the hanging of the establishment and the failure of our current joke of a president.  I get that people wanted change and that's why he "won" - but this is NOT the change we needed.  I would have rather had hillary win and then hold her feet to the fire and hold her accountable for her promises.  tweety don't care 'bout that and neither do his supporters - that's painfully obvious.  Progressives are different than that.  Loyalty is earned, not given.

I consider myself not just a democrat - but a truly progressive, justice democrat.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/17 at 06:01:48

Progressive, Justice, Democrat

What do you suppose that means?

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by oldNslow on 05/15/17 at 07:26:28


Quote:
Watching this train wreck is only enforcing the fact that the establishment way of doing things is dying - nearly dead.  


Lotta people voted for Trump for precisely that reason, I believe. They knew Hillary wasn't going to finish the establishment off; hoped that Trump might.


I'm not sure he's the man for the job, but it's early yet. He certainly has a lot of the old guard, on both sides of the aisle, and their media lapdogs,, running around on their rims right now. Considering how totally f*cked our federal government is that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by MnSpring on 05/15/17 at 07:53:33


6E7177706D6A5B6B5B63717D36040 wrote:
Progressive, Justice, Democrat
What do you suppose that means?

Progressive, Justice, Democrat
My opinion:

Progressive:
  (As portrayed by some on this forum)
Ultra-Liberal, whiny Cryer, when they don’t get their Marxist Way.

Justice:
 (Depends,  but if it is, ‘Progressive  Justice')
That would mean,  Only for ME, Just  ME, not you, but just  ME.
Just what WE, think, (my buddies and I)
Just think of some people dressed all in brown,
‘Lock Stepping”, down the street, and saying:  
  “Papers Please”
  (Notice how, Polite’, they were, they said, ‘Please’)

Democrat:
Thats real wide.  
Their are the  Winey, Ultra-Left, Cry in the street, Socialist type.
Just as their are Republicans, way on the other side.
Both those are the 10%’ers.  (+/-)
The 11% to  30%’ers,  (BOTH Parties),  are the ones, that discuss things, see each others POV, move a little or a lot, this way or that way, and agree to disagree on topics.
WITH OUT,  Standing in the street, Crying, Steeling, Looting, Destroying, Setting Fires, Shouting Death Threats, etc. etc. etc.

So, Democrats,
Their are, good ones, and BAD ones, Just like  Republicans,  (Or other parties)

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by Serowbot on 05/15/17 at 08:59:13

Whine whine,.. cry cry,.. whine whine... cry cry...

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(....

::)

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/15/17 at 16:52:17

I asked a question.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by MnSpring on 05/16/17 at 18:19:56


445B5D5A4740714171495B571C2E0 wrote:
I asked a question.

Suspect you won't get a  answer,
 (Unless it's a, 'Drive By')   @!

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/16/17 at 18:47:43


081711160B0C3D0D3D05171B50620 wrote:
Progressive, Justice, Democrat

What do you suppose that means?



Someone should explain what they mean.
It's your identity,

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/16/17 at 19:30:35


6A757374696E5F6F5F67757932000 wrote:
[quote author=081711160B0C3D0D3D05171B50620 link=1494546221/0#4 date=1494853308]Progressive, Justice, Democrat

What do you suppose that means?



Someone should explain what they mean.
It's your identity, [/quote]

There's this site called "Google" - go use it.

Don't be so lazy!

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by MnSpring on 05/17/17 at 19:58:10

WOW,
  Just   WOW.

   “…Don't be so lazy!…”

Just   WWOWOWOWWOOWO  


Would that be like:
 “I Can’t answer, so I’ll do a  ‘drive by’ “

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/17/17 at 20:39:59

He CLAIMS to be what he won't describe.
I'm not seeing how justice can possibly spring forth from anyone so one eyed. Justice can't be divorced from Truth.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/18/17 at 09:50:56


4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote:
He CLAIMS to be what he won't describe.
I'm not seeing how justice can possibly spring forth from anyone so one eyed. Justice can't be divorced from Truth.


Why should I explain anything to you? I'm not beholden to you in any way.

If you don't know what a justice democrat is, that's on you, not me.

Need I explain EVERYTHING to you?  Are you able to figure anything out for yourself?

Do I need to explain what a GOPer is?

Yeah - don't be so lazy.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by raydawg on 05/18/17 at 09:54:12


594748494459425F2D0 wrote:
[quote author=4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 link=1494546221/0#13 date=1495078799]He CLAIMS to be what he won't describe.
I'm not seeing how justice can possibly spring forth from anyone so one eyed. Justice can't be divorced from Truth.


Why should I explain anything to you? I'm not beholden to you in any way.

If you don't know what a justice democrat is, that's on you, not me.

Need I explain EVERYTHING to you?  Are you able to figure anything out for yourself?

Do I need to explain what a GOPer is?

Yeah - don't be so lazy.[/quote]

Why, you ask....
The guy who just the other day said we were all in this together, and one might think you would help others to discover your avenue of enlightenment  ;D

All talkie, no walkie  :-*

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/18/17 at 10:00:08


283B233E3B2D3D5A0 wrote:
[quote author=594748494459425F2D0 link=1494546221/0#14 date=1495126256][quote author=4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 link=1494546221/0#13 date=1495078799]He CLAIMS to be what he won't describe.
I'm not seeing how justice can possibly spring forth from anyone so one eyed. Justice can't be divorced from Truth.


Why should I explain anything to you? I'm not beholden to you in any way.

If you don't know what a justice democrat is, that's on you, not me.

Need I explain EVERYTHING to you?  Are you able to figure anything out for yourself?

Do I need to explain what a GOPer is?

Yeah - don't be so lazy.[/quote]

Why, you ask....
The guy who just the other day said we were all in this together, and one might think you would help others to discover your avenue of enlightenment  ;D

All talkie, no walkie  :-*
[/quote]

Yes, we are all in this together.  But that means doing work - not being coddled.

If you don't understand something - go find out.  Form your own opinion and go from there.

And let's be real - jog is not really wanting to know what a justice democrat is.

Anything associated with the dems is poison/lefty/liberal/(explicative here) in his/her eyes.  jog is looking for a argument.

Just like all 6 of the people on here.



Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/18/17 at 10:24:57


706E61606D706B76040 wrote:
Yes, we are all in this together.  But that means doing work - not being coddled.

If you don't understand something - go find out.  Form your own opinion and go from there.

And let's be real - jog is not really wanting to know what a justice democrat is.

Anything associated with the dems is poison/lefty/liberal/(explicative here) in his/her eyes.  jog is looking for a argument.

Just like all 6 of the people on here.


Believe it or not, we've been here a lot longer than you.
In fact, this section of the site was basically made for JOG.
Our experience on this site has led to a certain knowledge.
The only way we can change our POV is if you explain yourself.
Most won't except the partisan fake news as fact, but it is a beginning.
Otherwise we might as well shout "less filling" vs "tastes great" till the sky falls.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by WebsterMark on 05/18/17 at 11:11:48

Justice Democrats are hard core, soft socialist/communist liberals; a hair above the occupy wall street crowd. They are on the fringes of the mask wearing, rock throwing mobs. A bit too cowardly to throw a rock, but they want their 60's protest moments since they missed all that fun. They would call themselves progressive idealist, but they are clueless, Bernie Sanders groupies.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/18/17 at 11:27:55


42514647585553515A05340 wrote:
[quote author=706E61606D706B76040 link=1494546221/15#16 date=1495126808]Yes, we are all in this together.  But that means doing work - not being coddled.

If you don't understand something - go find out.  Form your own opinion and go from there.

And let's be real - jog is not really wanting to know what a justice democrat is.

Anything associated with the dems is poison/lefty/liberal/(explicative here) in his/her eyes.  jog is looking for a argument.

Just like all 6 of the people on here.


Believe it or not, we've been here a lot longer than you.
In fact, this section of the site was basically made for JOG.
Our experience on this site has led to a certain knowledge.
The only way we can change our POV is if you explain yourself.
Most won't except the partisan fake news as fact, but it is a beginning.
Otherwise we might as well shout "less filling" vs "tastes great" till the sky falls.[/quote]

Sorry if you didn't see my bow when I began posting on here... (eyeroll).

"The only way we can change our POV is if you explain yourself." - LOL, you actually believe that????

C'mon...  aking me to explain what a justice democrat is, is like me asking who ayn rand is, or what is culpable deniability, or what means based testing is.

Widen your own horizons - to ask me to do it.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/18/17 at 11:30:16


0B393E2F28392E113D2E375C0 wrote:
Justice Democrats are hard core, soft socialist/communist liberals; a hair above the occupy wall street crowd. They are on the fringes of the mask wearing, rock throwing mobs. A bit too cowardly to throw a rock, but they want their 60's protest moments since they missed all that fun. They would call themselves progressive idealist, but they are clueless, Bernie Sanders groupies.


LOL - yep, you're absolutely right!  <<<<sarcasm.

(this is why I like for you to find out for yourself, so you can deny what it really means to be a justice democrat)

Thanks for proving my point web!!

Quick - someone look up the meaning of futility!!

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by WebsterMark on 05/18/17 at 12:25:14

My description of them is accurate.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by Serowbot on 05/18/17 at 12:55:22

I had to look it up myself.
Justice Democrats seem to be Democrats that want to get the big corporate money out of government.
I'm all for that.

I think the best thing to get the money out of politics would be to undo Citizens United, and to make paid lobbyists illegal.
Lobbying could only be done by citizens concerned enough about an issue to invest their time without financial compensation.
Government is for the people not for corporate interests.

I guess I'm a JD too... :-/

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by MnSpring on 05/18/17 at 13:33:32

LOLOL.

 Read their,  Platform, very carefully.

SO,   MANY,   Conflicting Statements.
   SO   MANY  !!!!


I Started to list them, but I don’t have 8 HOURS, to type out ONE,  Post.
 ( Not nearly as fast as  BOT, in his,  12 SECOND  posts)

Gee, Wonder who, gets all that,  DONATION  Money ?
who is, ‘act-blue’ ?
Where are THEIR   Tax  returns ?

I Stand by my words.
Justice Democrats, are, just like the,
  ‘Brown Uniformed, lock stepping people,
      and saying:  “Papers Please”.


(They are using the same propaganda as another country did  in 1932-40)
           (Lots  of  ‘Buzz words/phrases’ used)


Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by WebsterMark on 05/18/17 at 13:35:51

Like I said, hard core liberal. Nothing new or different.

One of the biggest, if not at the top, beneficiary of Citizens United is labor unions. You think that's going away! Ha, think again.

Only unpaid citizens huh? So our dues to the AMA that hire lobbyists who petition congressmen to protect our riding rights are outlawed in your world? When my company participates in conferences where decision makers at the FDA are present, we can't talk to them? You think Planned Parenthood would go along with that?

Actually, PP is a perfect example why CU is a good thing. If PP were prohibited from lobbying Congress, no problem for them as they would just let the news media so their lobbying for them. And that's a main point for CU. Without organized efforts, the nly causes that matter to congrss will be whatever the media decides to put on the nightly news. Again, it was the Swift Boat Veterans who helped start this whole discussion. John Kerry was trying to rely on the media to cover his lies but a group funded by a bunch of Republican billionaires got the truth out.

If we had a fair media, CU might not be needed ,but that ship has sailed.

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/18/17 at 13:50:22


784A4D5C5B4A5D624E5D442F0 wrote:
Like I said, hard core liberal. Nothing new or different.

One of the biggest, if not at the top, beneficiary of Citizens United is labor unions. You think that's going away! Ha, think again.

I support unions - I don't support unlimited monetary influence of unions.  Pretty simple actually.

Only unpaid citizens huh? So our dues to the AMA that hire lobbyists who petition congressmen to protect our riding rights are outlawed in your world? When my company participates in conferences where decision makers at the FDA are present, we can't talk to them? You think Planned Parenthood would go along with that?

Shows how little you know about it... Ending CU means no more hiding of donations.  True transparency.

Actually, PP is a perfect example why CU is a good thing. If PP were prohibited from lobbying Congress, no problem for them as they would just let the news media so their lobbying for them.

LMAO - again, it's not about lobbying.... you really should learn what CU is all about.

And that's a main point for CU. Without organized efforts, the nly causes that matter to congrss will be whatever the media decides to put on the nightly news. Again, it was the Swift Boat Veterans who helped start this whole discussion. John Kerry was trying to rely on the media to cover his lies but a group funded by a bunch of Republican billionaires got the truth out.

If we had a fair media, CU might not be needed ,but that ship has sailed.


Seriously, go learn what CU really is..... smh

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by raydawg on 05/18/17 at 13:59:37


322C23222F322934460 wrote:
[quote author=283B233E3B2D3D5A0 link=1494546221/15#15 date=1495126452][quote author=594748494459425F2D0 link=1494546221/0#14 date=1495126256][quote author=4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 link=1494546221/0#13 date=1495078799]He CLAIMS to be what he won't describe.
I'm not seeing how justice can possibly spring forth from anyone so one eyed. Justice can't be divorced from Truth.


Why should I explain anything to you? I'm not beholden to you in any way.

If you don't know what a justice democrat is, that's on you, not me.

Need I explain EVERYTHING to you?  Are you able to figure anything out for yourself?

Do I need to explain what a GOPer is?

Yeah - don't be so lazy.[/quote]

Why, you ask....
The guy who just the other day said we were all in this together, and one might think you would help others to discover your avenue of enlightenment  ;D

All talkie, no walkie  :-*
[/quote]

Yes, we are all in this together.  But that means doing work - not being coddled.

If you don't understand something - go find out.  Form your own opinion and go from there.

And let's be real - jog is not really wanting to know what a justice democrat is.

Anything associated with the dems is poison/lefty/liberal/(explicative here) in his/her eyes.  jog is looking for a argument.

Just like all 6 of the people on here.


[/quote]

Put your shovel down duuuuuuuuude!

Coddled, you are fn kidding me or really delusional.
What is PC and campus free and safe zones?
Don't answer, I don't need it  ::)

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/18/17 at 14:08:04


4D5E465B5E48583F0 wrote:
Put your shovel down duuuuuuuuude!

Coddled, you are fn kidding me or really delusional.
What is PC and campus free and safe zones?
Don't answer, I don't need it  ::)


Show me where I endorsed a "PC campus" or a safe zone....

But hey, you're a democrat, right?  Then it must be YOU that agrees with that, right???

Title: Re: What has changed?
Post by WebsterMark on 05/18/17 at 17:11:11

If you can't see the relationship between CU and lobbying then I'm wasting energy with you.

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