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Message started by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 05:19:12

Title: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 05:19:12

If a person tweeting stupidity is obstruction, etc, then what Comey did re: emails and reopening the investigation at a critical moment of the presidential election, was he right in doing so, or wrong?
If you listen to the left prior to tweeter firing the director, he was way out of line, now, he is a victim of the Trumpsters temper tantrum?

How so?

How can it be both ways?

I still think Comey was screwed regardless, just another pawn in the Clinton's quest to absolute power.
And yes, even tho new studies show Hillary already sliding in polling prior to his reopening the investment, I can't see it any other way than costing her votes.....

More of the same partisan crap will result, and the insanity continues.

I hope Trump bails, but I doubt he will....

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by Trippah on 05/11/17 at 07:41:30

His comments prior to the election were a political move, and a made him a poor excuse for Director.  His unwillingness, apparently or reportedly, to have the the Trump team preview his testimony, put him on the nuts list. As I noted before, the Donald demands fealty, as well as loyalty.
No one knows if Hillary would have won, she was that unpopular.   The dems could have taken one of the Waling Dead cast and beat Trump, but the Queen of Sleaze...kinda doubt it.      
 But this should finally open everyones eyes tot he true story, the Donald is a master of misdirection.  He will say and do anything to divert the nation from his real interests; while keeping the spotlight on him.  A true magician.
As one of you has previously noted, e.g.  no one is talking healthcare for the moment.
                       

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 08:02:34

I agree with your assessment, listening to Trump is like looking at porn, sorta exciting, but leaves you feeling dirty  ;D

Let's do a what if.....
If Hillary had not tried to skirt accountability, which seems what Trumps tactic amounts to via deflect and deception.....
And Comey would not had to weigh in on the mess Clinton created for herself......
Would he, Trump, not had reason to fire him?
Isn't the temporary guy more invested with his wife's enflunces of party, and can leak out harmful info, now that he is head honcho.,...
I think, as stated, Trump is shrewd and figures out all the angles, this seems a bad move if that info, or motive to get rid of Comey is true.,,.
He effectively just gave them the ranch, yes?

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/17 at 08:30:57

Seems you may be losing sight of what's REALLY important here.

But if you need "closure" on hillary - simply ignore what he said in September of 2016 (because it was out of line, right?) - and read his official statement from July 5, 2016:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

The reason I say you might be losing sight of the real issue is that, well, look at what's happened in the last 72 hours.

It's been confirmed that comey went to Rosenstein's office for more resources to investigate.

tweety met with the russian foreign minister and had ZERO US press allowed in... yeah, that's normal....

How many have fled the nest tweety's tried to build?

Is there any validity to the the beavis & butt-head - err - eric and dj comments about the millions pouring in from russia?

tweety flat-out accused Obama of wiretapping with no proof whatsoever. (btw, there has been NOTHING found to support tweety's accusation).  That, by definition is obstruction.  But hey, let's say that there is no wrongdoing on tweety's part.  Let's say that oh - "he's just being flippant"... OK - where do you draw the line?  When is enough, enough?  Should the president of the United States be held accountable for his actions?  

Let's put the "what if" in the oval office, shall we?  What if tweety's tax returns show russian money in his company?  What then?  Are we going to OK that?  It's already well known that rex tilly is literally worth half a trillion dollars to russia.  That seems to be OK.  I mean, a secretary of state that ran an oil company is... well... what?  A great idea??

All of tweety's cabinet members have been passed by the narrowest of margins.  Maybe there's something to that.

There's LOTS more to come on this.  No way it's going to stop now.

So enough of the hillary emails - it's been done.

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 09:16:06

Did he go to get more resources because he was asked to speed things up, as reported?
And why would he put a new guy in charge who's wife took money from the DNC?
Yeah, nothing to that, right....
But the question still remains why would the shrewdster expose himself even more?
Why?

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by Serowbot on 05/11/17 at 09:28:21

Trump is a 70 year old child,... he acts on impulse.
I don't expect any shrewd calculation or consideration of consequence from his actions.
You dis him,.. he'll dis you back... That's about as deep as his mind gets.

You dis him... You're fired...
That's how he got famous... :-?

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/11/17 at 09:51:22


4D535C5D504D564B390 wrote:
tweety flat-out accused Obama of wiretapping with no proof whatsoever. (btw, there has been NOTHING found to support tweety's accusation).   


The proof he offered (right or wrong) was an article by the NYT

While I don't believe it was an Obama ordered wiretap, lets not forget the NSA reports with his staff unmasked and the Brit spy that was paid by everybody.  Who knows what he did.

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/17 at 10:06:30


6D7E6968777A7C7E752A1B0 wrote:
[quote author=4D535C5D504D564B390 link=1494505152/0#3 date=1494516657]

tweety flat-out accused Obama of wiretapping with no proof whatsoever. (btw, there has been NOTHING found to support tweety's accusation).   


The proof he offered (right or wrong) was an article by the NYT

While I don't believe it was an Obama ordered wiretap, lets not forget the NSA reports with his staff unmasked and the Brit spy that was paid by everybody.  Who knows what he did.
[/quote]

Those wiretaps were NOT in trump tower.  The story was just about wiretap data that was being used in an investigation.

Methinks he doth protests too much.  tweety's like a little kid who, before he's even blamed for doing something, says "it wasn't me!".. LOL

The very fact that his deep ineptitude is being ignored by his supporters is truly mind-boggling!

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 10:09:16


2C3A2D30283D302B5F0 wrote:
Trump is a 70 year old child,... he acts on impulse.
I don't expect any shrewd calculation or consideration of consequence from his actions.
You dis him,.. he'll dis you back... That's about as deep as his mind gets.

You dis him... You're fired...
That's how he got famous... :-?


Yes, that is who he is, and what he does....
And you guys bite, wtf?
You let him get your panties all wadded up and then blame him, why?
This is my whole point, ignore the guy, work like adults, not finger pointing and jumping into the same sandbox, lead with ideas, convince folks you have a better idea by debating it, not shutting it off with PC censorship, etc.
Sell your ideas on their merit....

You going to start be getting out of the name calling business?

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/17 at 10:25:31


40534B56534555320 wrote:
[quote author=2C3A2D30283D302B5F0 link=1494505152/0#5 date=1494520101]Trump is a 70 year old child,... he acts on impulse.
I don't expect any shrewd calculation or consideration of consequence from his actions.
You dis him,.. he'll dis you back... That's about as deep as his mind gets.

You dis him... You're fired...
That's how he got famous... :-?


Yes, that is who he is, and what he does....
And you guys bite, wtf?
You let him get your panties all wadded up and then blame him, why?

By "you guys", you mean Americans, right?  Because what tweety is doing right now is NOT what a president should do.  For the sake of Christ, one day after firing comey, he has a closed door meeting with the russian foreign minister where their press was allowed and ours wasn't!

This is way beyond any partisan politics.  If you can't see that.... you are the king of denial.

This is my whole point, ignore the guy, work like adults, not finger pointing and jumping into the same sandbox, lead with ideas, convince folks you have a better idea by debating it, not shutting it off with PC censorship, etc.
Sell your ideas on their merit....

You going to start be getting out of the name calling business?
[/quote]

Again, this is WAY beyond name calling - this it some serious sh!t.  Just watch.

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 11:10:41

Yeah, his azz is under the glass cuz he knows what he did, so he fires the director to get a new unknown with a liberal wife who ran for office and then invited a Russian in to make a deal....
I guess he hoped you wouldn't notice, huh?

If you are wrong, what are you willing to do?

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/17 at 11:20:04


55465E43465040270 wrote:
Yeah, his azz is under the glass cuz he knows what he did, so he fires the director to get a new unknown with a liberal wife who ran for office and then invited a Russian in to make a deal....
I guess he hoped you wouldn't notice, huh?

If you are wrong, what are you willing to do?


Admit that I was wrong.  Take responsibility and own it.

And if I'm right - what are you willing to do?

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by verslagen1 on 05/11/17 at 13:04:43


5F414E4F425F44592B0 wrote:
[quote author=6D7E6968777A7C7E752A1B0 link=1494505152/0#6 date=1494521482][quote author=4D535C5D504D564B390 link=1494505152/0#3 date=1494516657]

tweety flat-out accused Obama of wiretapping with no proof whatsoever. (btw, there has been NOTHING found to support tweety's accusation).   


The proof he offered (right or wrong) was an article by the NYT

While I don't believe it was an Obama ordered wiretap, lets not forget the NSA reports with his staff unmasked and the Brit spy that was paid by everybody.  Who knows what he did.
[/quote]

Those wiretaps were NOT in trump tower.  The story was just about wiretap data that was being used in an investigation.

Methinks he doth protests too much.  tweety's like a little kid who, before he's even blamed for doing something, says "it wasn't me!".. LOL

The very fact that his deep ineptitude is being ignored by his supporters is truly mind-boggling![/quote]

So you are going to play semantics?  Because it wasn't exactly what trump said "trump tower" instead of trump team, it doesn't count?

I hope that dusty cough clears up.

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/17 at 13:48:06


213225243B3630323966570 wrote:
So you are going to play semantics?  Because it wasn't exactly what trump said "trump tower" instead of trump team, it doesn't count?

I hope that dusty cough clears up.


I feel fine, thanks.  Do you remember the tweet from tweety?  :

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

Sorry, just because tweety's an idiot and may have used the wrong semantics shows both his ineptitude and his ignorance.

Remember, we're only in the first 120 days right now, and this is but the tip of the iceberg..... smh

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by pg on 05/11/17 at 14:53:52

You do realize he is just waiting for the opportune moment to play his hand.....

Best regards,

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by raydawg on 05/11/17 at 15:11:39


332D22232E332835470 wrote:
[quote author=55465E43465040270 link=1494505152/0#10 date=1494526241]Yeah, his azz is under the glass cuz he knows what he did, so he fires the director to get a new unknown with a liberal wife who ran for office and then invited a Russian in to make a deal....
I guess he hoped you wouldn't notice, huh?

If you are wrong, what are you willing to do?


Admit that I was wrong.  Take responsibility and own it.

And if I'm right - what are you willing to do?[/quote]

I never said the guy is anything either way......
For a dude who says he won't bet on the welfare of the country, that he hopes it's all good, etc, you seem to be delighted.
If you crash and burn, I will hose you off  :-*

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/17 at 20:18:33


7D6E766B6E78680F0 wrote:
[quote author=332D22232E332835470 link=1494505152/0#11 date=1494526804][quote author=55465E43465040270 link=1494505152/0#10 date=1494526241]Yeah, his azz is under the glass cuz he knows what he did, so he fires the director to get a new unknown with a liberal wife who ran for office and then invited a Russian in to make a deal....
I guess he hoped you wouldn't notice, huh?

If you are wrong, what are you willing to do?


Admit that I was wrong.  Take responsibility and own it.

And if I'm right - what are you willing to do?[/quote]

I never said the guy is anything either way......
For a dude who says he won't bet on the welfare of the country, that he hopes it's all good, etc, you seem to be delighted.
If you crash and burn, I will hose you off  :-*
[/quote]

The country will be better off without him.  We'd be screwed if he were to stay.  Don't get me wrong - I'm totally delighted to see the likes of tweety get impeached.  But that's only BECAUSE I care for my country.

I'll be fine - I won't crash.  Thanks anyway.

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by T And T Garage on 05/11/17 at 20:21:08


5146404C4353210 wrote:
You do realize he is just waiting for the opportune moment to play his hand.....

Best regards,



LOL - oh?  And when might that be - when the impeachment papers are filed??  Yeah... I think not.

tweety is in way over his head and it's all coming down around him...

Title: Re: So, was Hillary right, or wrong?
Post by MnSpring on 05/12/17 at 19:17:56


2F313E3F322F34295B0 wrote:
" ...   What if tweety's tax returns show russian money in his company?  ..."


What if, Frankon, Elision’s, Tax  Returns, show,
ILLEGAL,  Money, ????????

Guess we will never know  !!!!!!!!!!!

You call the current POTUS,  ’Tweety”
I call the Past POTUS,  ’The  Wanna  Be  King”

As , ‘Bot’, says:   ‘Get over it”    LOLOLOLOLOOOL

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and a triangle of toast left over,
threw it over the bridge on the way back,
Wow, what a scramble)




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