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Message started by JLC on 05/06/17 at 11:48:37

Title: First service + question
Post by JLC on 05/06/17 at 11:48:37

Just finished the first service at 498 miles on my S40. I also fitted a genuine Yamaha raptor fuel petcock. Nothing loose but the speedometer cable under the tank, and the air filter was absolutely as new.

Only thing I did not do was to adjust the valves. Is there a tool available to take off the timing cover? I did not want to damage it using a screwdriver.

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by Ruttly on 05/06/17 at 11:59:59

Jlc are you sure you put the oil filter in correctly? Otherwise it will lead to a catastrophic engine failure !

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by Kenny G on 05/06/17 at 12:02:37

JLC,

Honda makes a tool specifically for that slotted fastener to get at the nut to turn the engine for timing.

I used a home made tool and ended up breaking the cover. It would be worth the investment to have the Honda Tool The part number for the tool is listed in the Clymer Service Manual.

I didn't adjust my valves until 6600 miles and they were not off adjustment enough to worry about.

Look through the Technical Section before you go any further. Also, look at the section for Errors In Clymer.

Kenny G :-/

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by JLC on 05/06/17 at 12:03:01

Yep, I did fit the oil filter the correct way :)

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by JLC on 05/06/17 at 12:03:53

Thanks for the info. I will buy the Honda tool (Honda part #07700-0010001).

Update: I searched the part number above on several Honda parts websites with no results. Anybody knows what Honda bikes this tool was made for?

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by FL Savage on 05/06/17 at 12:46:14

090F00430 wrote:

With a low part # like that, I would say it's possibly a complete tool kit like one that came with the bike.

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by JLC on 05/06/17 at 12:54:34

Darn! Makes it more difficult to find just the one tool, does not it?

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by oldNslow on 05/06/17 at 12:55:13

Read this: Lot of suggestions for a tool for that cover.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1232437043

I'd ignore the post about using an impact tool though. That shouldn't be necessary.

Just about anything that will fit tightly in the slot, and that you can get a good grip on to turn it will work.

When you put the cover back on don't reef on it. It only needs to be tight enough to not fall out. It isn't holding anything together, and the o-ring will keep it in if it's just snugged up. Resist the urge to give it that little extra twist after it stops turning in.

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by JLC on 05/06/17 at 13:54:18

Thanks for the link.

Lots of people thinking "out of the box"! Very useful. I found a fender washer that is now in my S40-specific tool box as the "timing cover tool".

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by LANCER on 05/06/17 at 19:51:39

Sudco has the Honda tool being discussed.
If you want their part number for it I can get it for you in the morning.

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by Ruttly on 05/06/17 at 22:20:12

I used a washer that fit the groove snugly and a vise grip on the washer. Worked fine and no marring the plug.

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by JLC on 05/07/17 at 02:45:34

I have a suitable washer, but I would like to get the Honda tool anyway - so, Lancer, please post the tool number. Thanks.

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by batman on 05/07/17 at 12:05:38

The tips of the adjuster screws on a new bike are hardened when hitting the top of the valves ,but this happens over time ,I'd wait until you have about 5000 mi. on the bike before adjustment,this way they should be as hard as they're going to ever get an when you set them ,you may find if you check them every 5000 mi after that they need no adjustment at all,for a very long time.

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by norm92de on 05/07/17 at 13:30:55

The NRA sent me some kind of commemorative medal which fits the slot nicely. When I tighten the cover screw I only do it finger tight. It has never worked loose. In other words no "hot left boot." ;D

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by batman on 05/07/17 at 20:45:17

I new the NRA was good for something!

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by JLC on 05/08/17 at 01:49:40

Batman, thanks for the advice. Will check the valves at 5000 miles.

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by Tocsik on 05/09/17 at 18:18:43

and now back to the topic at hand....
This IS RSD after all.

JLC, definitely don't worry about valve adjustment at this juncture.
Just enjoy that thing!

Title: Re: First service + question
Post by eau de sauvage on 05/10/17 at 00:52:59

I had a tight timing cover for my first service, although the bike only had 500 miles on it it was a year old. I tried to make all sorts of tools including using the metal plate that the tank slides under which is not strong enough. I was searching the hardware store for some sort of brass hinge that was thick enough to completely fill the slot, but I had no luck, in the end I took it to the local bike shop who did it for me, they left a little scratch and admitted it was very difficult but just brute forced it. The problem is that even if you get a good bit of metal to sit snugly in the slot, that you need to keep it pressed into the slot while turning with some sort of flat clamp money wrench that can hold the entire hinge securely. If it you are finding it hard to take off, then I'd go straight to the making a tool to fit, solution.

Title: Re: First service + questionx
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/10/17 at 05:04:15

The center section of a worn out mower blade fit mine. Antisieze belongs in the shop.. Spark plugs and carb bowl screws, all kindsa places..